Solved 7800X3D price increase?

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

Ghot said:
You can't take what you bought with you when you're gone either.

Correct, but you can enjoy both the money and the purchase until you’re gone.
I plan on exiting via sticking my head through a monitor when Windows 14 comes out.

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

TraderGary said:
Is it only the generation of the CPU that is problematic?

As far as I know. There is at least one thread in here. I believe your laptop is fine, Gary

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

TraderGary said:
Is it only the generation of the CPU that is problematic?

An article close to the issue.

Think Intel's Upcoming 14th & 13th Gen Microcode Will Resolve Instability Issues? Well Think Again, Leaked Report Suggests Intel Yet To Identify Root Cause

More factors were revealed to be among the root causes of the instability issues in Intel's 13th and 14th Gen desktop CPUs.

wccftech.com

Overheating is a good sign.
I am not sure if laptops were/are even affected.

TraderGary · Aug 25, 2024

antspants said:
As far as I know. There is at least one thread in here. I believe your laptop is fine, Gary

Vapor Chamber Cooling must be effective. I have yet to hear the fans.

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

TraderGary said:
Vapor Chamber Cooling must be effective. I have yet to hear the fans.

I have not had a laptop with chamber cooling but did read about the setup which sounded great.

pparks1 · Aug 25, 2024

antspants said:
I keep putting off. I have a target of around 10 to 15K but that’s with all new drives and monitors.

LOL, that's insane. I was about 4k into my build, which is 4 years old and it's still an awesome build and doing great for me.

antspants · Aug 25, 2024

pparks1 said:
LOL, that's insane. I was about 4k into my build, which is 4 years old and it's still an awesome build and doing great for me.

But I’m talking from the ground up. Combine 6 extremely good monitors (to be decided on)
Also, I am one of those who shops and see’s something better and thinks “Hmm only an extra $250” until my wife says “OK that’s it, turn off the PC”
And also… I’ve been doing this for at least 3 years. I think I am ADHD or OCD or all of the above.

Winuser · Aug 26, 2024

bobkn said:
Darn. I wish I had a local Microcenter.

It's in another state but I'm about 1 hour give or take from the Micro Center in St. Davids Pa.

Winuser · Aug 26, 2024

Ghot said:
You can't take what you bought with you when you're gone, either.

True! But you can have fun with what you buy instead of not spending your money so you can give it to someone else to spend.

Winuser · Aug 26, 2024

pparks1 said:
LOL, that's insane. I was about 4k into my build, which is 4 years old and it's still an awesome build and doing great for me.

If I spent that much on a computer system my wife wouldn't have to kick my butt. I would kick it for her. I have never spent over $1,300.00 for any of my computers.

pparks1 · Aug 26, 2024

Winuser said:
If I spent that much on a computer system my wife wouldn't have to kick my butt. I would kick it for her. I have never spent over $1,300.00 for any of my computers.

it was my first computer build (for myself) in over a decade and it was build around Dec of 2020, which was prime scalpergate time so getting parts like my CPU and my GPU were hard to source...and getting it at MSRP was pretty much impossible.

My EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra was about $900
My Ryzen 9 5900X was sbout $700
My WD SN850x 2TB PCIe Gen 4 was $450
My ROG Strix X570-e Gaming motherboard was about $375
My 27" Asus Tuf Gaming high refresh rate monitor was $450
My 27" Asus ProArt monitor was $300

So, that alone was just over $3k back then. Add some RAM, CPU Cooler, Case, PSU, secondary SSD drive and the price definitely crept up there.

Winuser · Aug 26, 2024

pparks1 said:
My EVGA 3080 FTW3 Ultra was about $900

For that you can give thanks to all of the Bitcoin miners.

bobkn · Aug 26, 2024

Winuser said:
For that you can give thanks to all of the Bitcoin miners.

$900 for a card with a $700 MSRP wasn't terrible by scalping standards, at the time.

xHans · Aug 27, 2024

pparks1 said:
It's $308 at Amazon right now, Amazon.com.

I saw that over the weekend but it looked too good to be true, I looked at the seller and it was chinese. Funny enough I was watching a video from Paul's hardware and he mentioned the same thing at around 6:00

I've been keeping an eye out for a cheap 7800x3D because my gaming PC died after almost 10 years and thanks to the failure of the 9000x series and all he benchmarks reviewers did the 7800x3d is still a lot better than everything else. Now the price went up from 313 from my local microcenter currently at 379.99 and on amazon like $413. That sucks!!! I think the prices will go down when the 9800x3d comes out but I don't need nothing that outrageous, i'll be happy if I can get my hands on a cheap 7800x3d.

antspants · Aug 27, 2024

xHans said:
I looked at the seller and it was chinese

They're probably made in China also, so not sure what you're on about. But if one was to buy from anywhere but a reputable seller, then it's on them.

bobkn · Aug 27, 2024

xHans said:
I saw that over the weekend but it looked too good to be true, I looked at the seller and it was chinese. Funny enough I was watching a video from Paul's hardware and he mentioned the same thing at around 6:00 (snip)

I've been keeping an eye out for a cheap 7800x3D because my gaming PC died after almost 10 years and thanks to the failure of the 9000x series and all he benchmarks reviewers did the 7800x3d is still a lot better than everything else. Now the price went up from 313 from my local microcenter currently at 379.99 and on amazon like $413. That sucks!!! I think the prices will go down when the 9800x3d comes out but I don't need nothing that outrageous, i'll be happy if I can get my hands on a cheap 7800x3d.

"failure of the 9000x series"? I haven't paid much attention, but that seems excessive.

Some reviewers seem to be disappointed that the 9000 series doesn't offer a major price/performance advantage over the 7000 series. Maybe the same sort of reviewers who declared the nVidia RTX 4060 graphics cards to be junk. (They aren't, but not a lot better than the RTX 3060.)

pparks1 · Aug 28, 2024

Yeah, I don't really see the 9000 series as a failure. The X3d chips are better at gaming than the non X3d chips. So, no surprise there.

Its just people had their hopes up that this would be a 16-20% increase over the 7000 series, and it's not. It's around 6-8% performance increase, but with less power draw and heat. I'd never recommend an upgrade from a 7000 series to a 9000 series, simply not going to be worth it. Heck, I'm not even sure I would recommend upgrading from a 5000 series to a 7000 series for most workloads. My son who is on a 3800x, I would recommend the 9000 series...but since he mostly games, we would wait for the 9800x3d for sure or a 7800x3d if we had to upgrade this instant.

Roadrunr · Sep 6, 2024

bobkn said:
Darn. I wish I had a local Microcenter.

I've visited the nearest, which is an hour's drive away.

My closest MicroCenter is 2.5 hours away. It was worth the drive to me to be able to put hands on the cases (added bonus, they had no issue with my gf bringing the dog in (couldn't leave her home for 6+ hours, she can't be trusted). Happened they had a deal on the 9700x so I paid under $200 for it. I know Zen5 gets rubbish on but I figure it's at least as good as a 7700x for less money and at lower wattage so...(I did contemplate waiting for the 9800x3d but decided I could wait forever if I kept waiting for the next big things that's coming).

The laptop it replaced was an i7-9750H (heck, even my work computer is only an i7-8700k) so its a huge upgrade for me. As for the "failure" of the 9000 series, guess it depends on your use case and where you're coming from. My priority is not gaming (I'll probably download some free games off steam but...)

Some of y'all have crazy budgets. Mine was only $2k (not including monitors...which I haven't upgraded yet) and that is by far the most I've ever spent on a computer...I went over by a little.

werty · Sep 6, 2024

Recently, Microsoft released an update to Windows 11 both 24H1 and 23H2 to fix the performance of the Zen 5, Zen 4 and even Zen 3 series. You may look recent reviews.

BamaInArk · Sep 17, 2024

Seems the 7800X3D is still VERY popular. Price has gone up even more to more like $430 range. Currently it's not even showing up on Amazon or Newegg. Can't keep it in stock it appears.

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