Aggravating explorer.exe issue

Ghot said:

In-Place upgrade.

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Yeah, been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Was hoping to avoid it. I can't make up my mind if the issue happens often enough to warrant it. Do you know exactly what Intel AMT does?

Have you tried DDU to completely remove the graphics driver and associated files, then install with the latest Windows 11 drivers?
This seems to be especially helpful for people with explorer.exe issues who upgraded from Windows 10, including myself.

glasskuter said:

Yeah, been there, done that, got the T-shirt. Was hoping to avoid it. I can't make up my mind if the issue happens often enough to warrant it. Do you know exactly what Intel AMT does?

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I do know what svchost.exe does. Open Task Manager and scroll down till you see all the processes it handles.
In Task Manager it's called Service Host.

From your .zip file...

Description
The program svchost.exe version 10.0.22000.1 stopped interacting with Windows and was closed. To see if more information about the problem is available, check the problem history in the Security and Maintenance control panel.

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If you insist on doing this the hard way... contact: @zbook
He has all the tools needed to work your way through this problem.

It takes a serious amount of time. I've seen him do these kinds of things... we're talking 30 pages of back and forth posts.
The methods he uses... work. But they are NOT fast.

The best thing MS has done in a long time is invent the In-Place upgrade.
It takes about 40 mins., works about 95% of the time, and leaves all your programs and files intact.

The 1st time I did an In-Place upgrade was in late July 2020. My (Win 10) system ran flawlessly.
It would NOT do the Feature update from 1909 to 2004. Even screen-sharing with MS and they couldn't fix it.
Finally we did an In-Place upgrade and it was fixed and on 2004 in 40 mins.
Has worked fine ever since.

Twice I've done In-Place upgrades, from Win 10 to Win 11.
First, from Windows 10 to Windows 11 dev, and then again from Windows 10 to Win 11 regular (after Oct 5th 2021)
Works like a charm. :)

Stigg said:

Have you tried DDU to completely remove the graphics driver

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None of these faults are pointing to the graphics driver. The driver I'm using just came out a few weeks ago but the freezing explorer.exe happened even on the old driver.
@Ghot, I've done probably 50 in place upgrades for myself and others since 10 came out. I don't remember one ever failing. Basically just start it, go take a nap, and let it do its thing. Wish I had kept a list of all my tweaks. I think it might help with the immersive control panel faults, but I have doubt it will stop the Intel AMT faults. Who knows, it might. Before I do, I am going to dig deeper into this AMT business. I want to understand it better. Thanks for your insight.

I found an interesting , but a little SCARY... article over on Howtogeek site, It states:

So what is the Intel Management Engine, anyway? Intel provides some general information, but they avoid explaining most of the specific tasks the Intel Management Engine performs and precisely how it works.

As Intel puts it, the Management Engine is “a small, low-power computer subsystem”. It “performs various tasks while the system is in sleep, during the boot process, and when your system is running”.

In other words, this is a parallel operating system running on an isolated chip, but with access to your PC’s hardware. It runs when your computer is asleep, while it’s booting up, and while your operating system is running. It has full access to your system hardware, including your system memory, the contents of your display, keyboard input, and even the network.

You can’t disable the Intel ME. Even if you disable Intel AMT features in your system’s BIOS, the Intel ME coprocessor and software is still active and running. At this point, it’s included on all systems with Intel CPUs and Intel provides no way to disable it.

glasskuter said:

I found an interesting , but a little SCARY... article over on Howtogeek site, It states:

So what is the Intel Management Engine, anyway? Intel provides some general information, but they avoid explaining most of the specific tasks the Intel Management Engine performs and precisely how it works.

As Intel puts it, the Management Engine is “a small, low-power computer subsystem”. It “performs various tasks while the system is in sleep, during the boot process, and when your system is running”.

In other words, this is a parallel operating system running on an isolated chip, but with access to your PC’s hardware. It runs when your computer is asleep, while it’s booting up, and while your operating system is running. It has full access to your system hardware, including your system memory, the contents of your display, keyboard input, and even the network.

You can’t disable the Intel ME. Even if you disable Intel AMT features in your system’s BIOS, the Intel ME coprocessor and software is still active and running. At this point, it’s included on all systems with Intel CPUs and Intel provides no way to disable it.

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Pretty much all tech companies are doing it now:

Spying for intelligence!

Things are indeed getting too far in the name of national security and other terms used for convenience.