Solved Antivirus Recommendation Please


Protection is all about layers of protection. AV protection is just one layer, There is malware protection, conmon sense (good surfing habits), email phishing etc.

Defender does well in AV and malware protection BUT no tool protects against lack of common sense i.e. clicking links in web pages, falling for email phishing.

Truth is latter two points are more serious issues and tool is any use without common sense applied.

You can get stats on AV e.g. package A stops 99.5 % of AVs, B 99.2% etc. and be lured into a false sense of security but AV attacks are much rarer nowadays.

For hackers, it is easier to send a phishing email pretending to be say from your bank or major retailer etc. to harvest passwords.

So paranoia to a degree is helpful provided it is focussed on key security issues.

AV protection is probably the least important if you have ANY of the major tools.

Of course, there are complete idiots who think they do not need any AV protection, but these guys are more intellectually challenged than politicions.
 

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Protection is all about layers of protection. AV protection is just one layer, There is malware protection, conmon sense (good surfing habits), email phishing etc.

Defender does well in AV and malware protection BUT no tool protects against lack of common sense i.e. clicking links in web pages, falling for email phishing.

Truth is latter two points are more serious issues and tool is any use without common sense applied.

You can get stats on AV e.g. package A stops 99.5 % of AVs, B 99.2% etc. and be lured into a false sense of security but AV attacks are much rarer nowadays.

For hackers, it is easier to send a phishing email pretending to be say from your bank or major retailer etc. to harvest passwords.

So paranoia to a degree is helpful provided it is focussed on key security issues.

AV protection is probably the least important if you have ANY of the major tools.

Of course, there are complete idiots who think they do not need any AV protection, but these guys are more intellectually challenged than politicions.

Judging by yesterday's total worldwide chaos most of these security systems seem now to be "too clever by half". In any case in my younger days I can't remember ANY of the I.T people rolling out security updtaes or other important changes to a system on a Friday morning -- especially at this time of the year in certainly Northern Europe huge numbers of people were just starting out for their Summer holidays etc. What sort of management allows this type of stuff out of the door without rigid testing and adeqate backup server systems. I'm still fazed that so many of these Windows client machines are just "auto updated" in the first place -- since typical users would not be able to do a "Manual recovery" -- which makes any recovery take a lot lot longer.

I can't see the CEO's of this company losing money or jobs -- some poor low level coder will probably be blamed and get the sack -- in spite of the fact it's the bosses etc who should be controlling and managing the project.

cheers
jimbo
 

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I don’t believe a 3rd party antivirus program (this thread) and what happened yesterday are remotely similar.
A. We have backups
B. I highly doubt a virus definition/update for something like Kaspersky or Avast would affect windows in any way the same as yesterdays issue.
Also, this wouldn’t be one persons fault but a whole department as there are checks and balances. I’d guess many missed it
 

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i use AVG and have done for my Windows systems for decades, now i use AVG Internet Security Suite.
AVG is now run by Avast who took it over. i get any licences cheap online and then have AVG run each licence one after the other.
this way its very inexpensive for up to 3 systems.

i also have Win Defender running in the background with Malwarebytes and Malwarebytes browser guard.
thus far no a problems and all systems green.

hope this was of help, best of luck. Steve ..
 

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