Backup - OneDrive Issues

Edwin · Mar 1, 2024

TraderGary said:
I think what happened was that in the dialog box you chose not to show the files locally.

Yes, but, nuke the originals too!?!?!? Makes no sense!!! It's as if they're claiming full ownership of your property!!!
What if I was a noob who had 6TB of space and Backed up all 6TB of my stuff, then made that stupid mistake? I'd be f*cked!
In Proton Drive, if I choose not to sync/backup certain folders, it doesn't nuke my original files!

TraderGary said:
In your video, you didn't show the OneDrive offsite cloud folder, where the files still should have been.

Yes right, sorry! The files are still online.

Hazel123 · Mar 1, 2024

I think the point is - there shouldn't need to be a fix! It should be straightforward.

From Glasskuter's post

Most people don't realize that "now" when you set up Windows with a Microsoft account, OneDrive will automatically backup and sync those folders by moving their content into the OneDrive folder location.

I didn't know that. But then I usually uninstall One Drive at first set up, before adding my files.

I also think there is a difference between criticising One Drive and criticising Microsoft. I have not criticised Microsoft per se - just One Drive! The rest of Windows 11 I like (mostly).

If they improve One Drive, and make it more user-friendly and "reliable" I might use it. But for now I have

1) idrive backups daily
2) external hard drive images
3) Googledrive for sharing documents if needed.

Edwin · Mar 1, 2024

Hazel123 said:
It should be straightforward.

Exactly.
To a layperson Backup means, make copies of my stuff in another location,
Stop Backup should mean, stop making copies of my stuff. Period.
That should be blatantly obvious from the get-go!

TraderGary · Mar 1, 2024

Hazel123 said:
I think the point is - there shouldn't need to be a fix! It should be straightforward.

There never did need to be a "fix". Nothing was broken. OneDrive was working exactly the way it should. This was simply a case of not understanding how OneDrive actually works.

The problem is with Microsoft's implementation of backup and OneDrive. You're right, @Edwin! They screwed it up. Watch Leo's video in my post #74.

cereberus · Mar 1, 2024

This thread is going around in circles.

Let me make it totally clear.

Learn how to use onedrive properly and it is great.

Don't learn how to use it properly, and it can be a nightmare.

The problem is people just do not want to put the effort in to learn, and justify.that by blaming onedrive or MS.

The old phrase "A bad workman blames their tool“ is so true for onedrive.

So, either learn how to use it properly, or uninstall it but if you do not want to learn, look in a mirror and be honest with yourself!

badrobot · Mar 1, 2024

Wait, I thought one drive only backs up your files and does not delete files from local drives? We use one drive at work and it only synchs files between laptop and one drive like duplicate files. I just received a laptop upgrade in the office last week. I didn't have to transfer my files. As soon as I logged in to One drive, it copied (synched) all my one drive files to my local drive.

Edwin · Mar 1, 2024

TraderGary said:
OneDrive was working exactly the way it should.

Perhaps, but, there are portions of the way the program works that are just wrong!
Come on man, you watched my video clip, you read my detailed explanation, there's no way in hell you can call that proper, or even normal!!!

TraderGary said:
... not understanding how OneDrive actually works.

That is perhaps the program's most outstanding flaw!

cereberus said:
This thread is going around in circles.

The OP's issue is fixed, this is healthy discussion!

TraderGary · Mar 1, 2024

cereberus said:
This thread is going around in circles.

Let me make it totally clear.

Learn how to use onedrive properly and it is great.

Don't learn how to use it properly, and it can be a nightmare.

The problem is people just do not want to put the effort in to learn, and justify.that by blaming onedrive or MS.

The old phrase "A bad workman blames their tool“ is so true for onedrive.

So, either learn how to use it properly, or uninstall it but if you do not want to learn, look in a mirror and be honest with yourself!

I wish I had simply said this earlier!

Edwin · Mar 1, 2024

Okay, I'm done here then.
I apologize if I offended anyone in any way.

badrobot · Mar 1, 2024

I Asked Copilot.. :ROFLMAO:

The last line is probably the reason for all this. .. "not for backup purposes".

TraderGary · Mar 1, 2024

Edwin said:
Okay, I'm done here then.
I apologize if I offended anyone in any way.

You certainly didn't offend me! You're a valuable part of 11Forum.

pparks1 · Mar 2, 2024

Hazel123 said:
If they improve One Drive, and make it more user-friendly and "reliable" I might use it. But for now I have

One drive is reliable. I've used it for 7 years + and it hasn't lost a single file of mine.

We have over 15,000 people at work who use OneDrive.

It's very reliable.

Hazel123 · Mar 2, 2024

Understood. But as mentioned in Glasskuter's post earlier. A new owner's files are automatically uploaded by One Drive, which they might not realise or even want that. Any there are many people out there who just want to buy a computer and use it, probably never do backups and don't want to understand the technicalities of installed software. I know many who never even open settings.

So is the default set up for One Drive set up that files wouldn't disappear from the computer if they delete them in One Drive? ie - would you actively have to change the settings for the issues to occur? It doesn't sound like it, based on Edwin's post.

I'd like to know the best set up myself, so the teenager doesn't lose all his college work. As I doubt he'll take my advice to uninstall it!

TraderGary · Mar 2, 2024

@Hazel123, having used OneDrive for the past 15 years, here's the best advice I can give. If you and your son are not willing to expend the effort to learn how OneDrive works and how to use it, you are best off just uninstalling it.

Dru2 · Mar 2, 2024

TraderGary said:
@Hazel123, having used OneDrive for the past 15 years, here's the best advice I can give. If you and your son are not willing to expend the effort to learn how OneDrive works and how to use it, you are best off just uninstalling it.

You don't even have to uninstall it. Just disable it....

Enable or Disable OneDrive in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to enable or disable the OneDrive feature for all users in Windows 10 and Windows 11. OneDrive is built-in to Windows 11 by default. With OneDrive, you can sync files and folders between your computer and the cloud, so you can get to your files from anywhere -...

www.elevenforum.com

But yeah, for the hypersensitive, you can go the drastic route and remove it.

cereberus · Mar 2, 2024

TraderGary said:
@Hazel123, having used OneDrive for the past 15 years, here's the best advice I can give. If you and your son are not willing to expend the effort to learn how OneDrive works and how to use it, you are best off just uninstalling it.

Isn't this rather like learning to drive.

A learner takes lessons to drive car safely.
Somebody who tries to drive car without lessons will be positively dangerous - it is not the car that is unsafe but the person!

Hazel123 · Mar 2, 2024

I think the point is - people start up new computers, not knowing it's there or what it does. They don't opt to use it, it just happens.

Edwin · Mar 2, 2024

cereberus said:
Isn't this rather like learning to drive.

I went to the Ministry to obtain my OneDriver's License......, I failed the eye exam!!!

Hazel123 · Mar 2, 2024

Apparently there's a new generation of One Drive coming - that works with Co Pilot. So maybe you can ask Co Pilot to reinstate any deleted files or find them.

Unveiling the Next Generation of OneDrive | Microsoft Community Hub

The next generation of OneDrive is here with effortless file management, advanced security and governance, and new Copilot in OneDrive skills on the way.

techcommunity.microsoft.com

TraderGary · Mar 2, 2024

Hazel123 said:
Apparently there's a new generation of One Drive coming - that works with Co Pilot. So maybe you can ask Co Pilot to reinstate any deleted files or find them.

Unveiling the Next Generation of OneDrive | Microsoft Community Hub

The next generation of OneDrive is here with effortless file management, advanced security and governance, and new Copilot in OneDrive skills on the way.

techcommunity.microsoft.com

That article is dated October of 2023 and has to do with OneDrive for business.

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