Best PC optimiser?

sydh · Nov 27, 2022

WAI said:
I mean I would say try Driver Booster but only for drivers you are unable to find. You can click which one you want to update. Just ignore the graphics please...

Driver Booster is Iobit which I have uninstalled due to constant marketing.

sydh · Nov 27, 2022

mecanicogolf said:
Go to www.Majorgeeks.com and look for Snappy Driver and run it. There is a tutorial on the download page that'll help you if you need it. And it;s FREE!

I tried Snappy Driver but it failed to find the AMD drivers that were out of date. That then casts doubt on what else it is missing.

jimbo45 · Nov 27, 2022

sydh said:
That's very time consuming considering the amount if hardware on a PC. That's why I believe a driver checker is more streamlined in finding out of date drivers.

You only need to do it for hardware you have a problem with -- you don't need to run the thing on every piece of hardware on the PC.

In any case you could probably go into the actual primary main events log on windows itself, run a small script to extract all the relevant data and load into a MariaDB / MySQL DB and / or a spreadsheet. Would take seconds to run. !!!! "Seeemples" !!! - If you were even more sophisticated you could probably automate the goole search too. lynx works well as a text web browser which runs in command line so could run in a script.

Cheers
jimbo

sydh · Nov 27, 2022

jimbo45 said:
All Snake Oil.

Some sites are even worse --"Sneakerware" or "Suckerware". They advertise as being able to find updated software for your machine - and then you find they sucker you in and want you to PAY for access to that part of the site.

Windows if left alone usually works far better than most Humans can do it. As an Engineer I still believe that "If it ain't broke --- then don't fix it".

If you want to get vendor id etc for particular hardware - simply go into hardware properties for the device and then click on the events. You'll invaribly find something like &VEN_ and a load more info from which you can use as a google search to get the manufacturers hardware and usually then get the correct driver if needed.

E.g For an HD audio device (I'm on a VM currently but you should get the idea).

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Cheers
jimbo

"If it ain't broke don't fix it" is fine if all is well but the reason I have raised this subject is because I am trying to install 22H2 but it is failing at 99% with a driver error code and device manager cannot find any problems, hence my system search for the problem driver.

sydh · Nov 27, 2022

jimbo45 said:
You only need to do it for hardware you have a problem with -- you don't need to run the thing on every piece of hardware on the PC.

In any case you could probably go into the actual primary main events log on windows itself, run a small script to extract all the relevant data and load into a MariaDB / MySQL DB and / or a spreadsheet. Would take seconds to run. !!!! "Seeemples" !!! - If you were even more sophisticated you could probably automate the goole search too. lynx works well as a text web browser which runs in command line so could run in a script.

Cheers
jimbo

All well and good if you are that technical. I'm not which also applies to most PC owners which is why these utils are needed by many people.

jimbo45 · Nov 27, 2022

sydh said:
"If it ain't broke don't fix it" is fine if all is well but the reason I have raised this subject is because I am trying to install 22H2 but it is failing at 99% with a driver error code and device manager cannot find any problems, hence my system search for the problem driver.

It will be something else then -- Windows will install on almost anything. There's another problem - could be not enough space (Windows even though it doesn't require it wants 48GB of free space to install) , the boot manager can't find appropriate disk, all sorts of reasons. Windows will usually still work when even most of the hardware in device manager shows problems .

Try installing using dism /Apply-Image ---- also where did you get the ISO from and how did you build it. If you used UUPDUMP you need to create the ISO from a recent version of Windows or the ISO will nopt be created correctly.

Cheers
jimbo

sydh · Nov 27, 2022

jimbo45 said:
It will be something else then -- Windows will install on almost anything. There's another problem - could be not enough space (Windows even though it doesn't require it wants 48GB of free space to install) , the boot manager can't find appropriate disk, all sorts of reasons. Windows will usually still work when even most of the hardware in device manager shows problems .

Try installing using dism /Apply-Image ---- also where did you get the ISO from and how did you build it. If you used UUPDUMP you need to create the ISO from a recent version of Windows or the ISO will nopt be created correctly.

Cheers
jimbo

I have already tried most things with the help of other Power Users on this forum. We eventually decided a clean install was the only answer but I am still trying to avoid that due to the reconfiguration time of all my software. The ISO came from this group. If you find my other thread you will see the multiple tests that were suggested I.e. scannow, chkdsk, and so many others. Everyone ran out of ideas.

cereberus · Nov 27, 2022

sydh said:
That's very time consuming considering the amount if hardware on a PC. That's why I believe a driver checker is more streamlined in finding out of date drivers.

I expect you believe the moon is made of cheese as well?

sydh · Nov 27, 2022

cereberus said:
I expect you believe the moon is made of cheese as well?

Meaning?

cereberus · Nov 27, 2022

sydh said:
Meaning?

You will believe anything - all the posters here say do not use driver checkers as they are garbage but you just say " I believe a driver checker is more streamlined in finding out of date drivers." It is just not true. They are only as good as their database and the best driver database is guess what .... , yep Windows update, or better still the user.

sydh · Nov 27, 2022

cereberus said:
You will believe anything - all the posters here say do not use driver checkers as they are garbage but you just say " I believe a driver checker is more streamlined in finding out of date drivers." It is just not true. They are only as good as their database and the best driver database is guess what .... , yep Windows update, or better still the user.

I have just used Driver Easy which found 12 out of date drivers in about 30 seconds. How long would that take manually? I then downloaded the drivers from the actual manufacturers websites. How is that garbage? Windows update and Catalog did not have the AMD drivers I have updated whereas Driver Easy flagged them up. So Windows update is hardly foolproof.
Actually some posters on here recommended some checkers so not everyone has your opinion. As I stated in a previous post, not everyone has the technical knowledge that power users have on here, hence the market for tools.
Anyway, thank you for your comments. Luckily other members on here are more helpful without resorting to sracastic comments.

JohnnyFire · Nov 27, 2022

and then you cry about stability and bug on windows...... ok....

kelper · Nov 27, 2022

I have used registry cleaners since Win 98. They can certainly reduce the time it takes Windows to boot up. I used one which found hundreds of errors in a clean install. I wish I could remember its name.

William654 · Nov 27, 2022

iobit was fine but there are alots of ads if you are using free so I recommend this for free:

Wise Care 365 - Stabilize, Secure and Speed Up Slow Windows PC/Laptop with One Click!

Wise Care 365 is an all-in-one system tune up tool. Speed up slow computer (laptop and desktop). Clean registry and junk files from your PC. Protect your privacy and make your PC more secure.

www.wisecleaner.com

and this for paid

All-in-one online privacy, antivirus, cleaner | iolo

More than your average PC tune-up software. Speed up, secure, and simplify your digital life with iolo’s all-in-one Windows® optimization, antivirus, and online privacy software suite. Learn More. Try for Free I want to… Boost PC Performance Get Internet Privacy Get Ultimate Protection Receive...

www.iolo.com

WAI · Nov 27, 2022

William654 said:
iobit was fine but there are alots of ads if you are using free so I recommend this for free:

Wise Care 365 - Stabilize, Secure and Speed Up Slow Windows PC/Laptop with One Click!

Wise Care 365 is an all-in-one system tune up tool. Speed up slow computer (laptop and desktop). Clean registry and junk files from your PC. Protect your privacy and make your PC more secure.

www.wisecleaner.com

and this for paid

All-in-one online privacy, antivirus, cleaner | iolo

More than your average PC tune-up software. Speed up, secure, and simplify your digital life with iolo’s all-in-one Windows® optimization, antivirus, and online privacy software suite. Learn More. Try for Free I want to… Boost PC Performance Get Internet Privacy Get Ultimate Protection Receive...

www.iolo.com

I don't ever use tune pc programs. Why not just use the new storage settings in system settings

TairikuOkami · Nov 27, 2022

kelper said:
I used one which found hundreds of errors in a clean install.

Regseeker is discontinued, so probably jv16 PowerTools, but it is no longer free, still the best reg cleaner.

kelper said:
I have used registry cleaners since Win 98.

Same, obsolete reg entries are as bad as a corrupted cache and cause serious issues, still people will rather reinstall than clean registry.

kelper · Nov 27, 2022

TairikuOkami said:
Regseeker is discontinued, so probably jv16 PowerTools, but it is no longer free, still the best reg cleaner.

No, it was neither of those. It was written by an individual.

NavyLCDR · Nov 27, 2022

Post #14. Are some of my drivers not the very latest available? Probably. Do I care? No. Why? Because my computers just run fine, update just fine, and then continue to run just fine. And I believe the reason they do that is because I have never implemented a whole bunch of "solutions" to problems that don't exist.

cereberus · Nov 27, 2022

sydh said:
I have just used Driver Easy which found 12 out of date drivers in about 30 seconds. How long would that take manually? I then downloaded the drivers from the actual manufacturers websites. How is that garbage? Windows update and Catalog did not have the AMD drivers I have updated whereas Driver Easy flagged them up. So Windows update is hardly foolproof.
Actually some posters on here recommended some checkers so not everyone has your opinion. As I stated in a previous post, not everyone has the technical knowledge that power users have on here, hence the market for tools.
Anyway, thank you for your comments. Luckily other members on here are more helpful without resorting to sracastic comments.

But you have no idea if you ACTUALLY have the latest drivers. All you know is you got some later than your original.

I have seen these tools completely screw up drivers many times.

You have just been lucky.

Also, how does one get to be experienced anyway ?

By doing it properly, visiting web sites, and checking properly!

kelper · Nov 27, 2022

I steer clear of driver updaters as they have caused me serious problems. But I do update drivers when they are offered by WU.

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