Solved Broken boot

glasskuter · Jun 28, 2022

It pains me to think about restoring a system image you know is corrupted to a brand new drive. Why take a chance since you've gone this far. Bite the bullet a little harder, clean install Windows and then copy only the user files....and only then if they are something you can't live without. If you put them on a flash drive instead of in your user folders, explorer will read directly from the flash drive and you won't have to worry about anything that might be corrupted being on your new drive.

Eddward · Jun 28, 2022

I got your point. Thanks for advice. Just trying to make life easier. Can I loose something? In worst case scenario it will just fail to restore or restore it and I will not able to boot again. Do you think corrupted image will push brand new SSD to irreversible state ? It is "corrupted" only because there were sectors which was not readable, probably damaged, so they were not backed up correctly, or at least I think this is the case. It is no like there is a virus.
But yeah I understand... if it is not worth trying I will not do that, not a big deal.

Megahertz · Jun 28, 2022

Eddward said:
Ordered new M.2 NVMe SSD. Will be there on Thursday I think.
Will try to restore full image then, hopefully this corrupted image will not damage new disk if this fail I will restore files from image manually and that's it. Have full backup on external drive. No one knows what is corrupted, but personal data looks okay and the rest is not important.

On the new drive I would do a Clean Install and recover only data.

It's time to learn how to use Macrium Reflect and how to make drive images.

Cromax · Jun 28, 2022

Eddward said:
I got your point. Thanks for advice. Just trying to make life easier. Can I loose something? In worst case scenario it will just fail to restore or restore it and I will not able to boot again. Do you think corrupted image will push brand new SSD to irreversible state ? It is "corrupted" only because there were sectors which was not readable, probably damaged, so they were not backed up correctly, or at least I think this is the case. It is no like there is a virus.
But yeah I understand... if it is not worth trying I will not do that, not a big deal.

and then something else will be broken and you will have to do clean install anyway

SIW2 · Jun 28, 2022

I would restore it to some old disk and see if it can be made to work. If so, it can then be transferred to a new disk.

Eddward · Jun 28, 2022

Honestly I have backup on external drive from this SSD. But it is old, I used to use Acronis for backup but it was long time ago.
Yes I learned something new. Macrium Reflect is very nice and intuitive tool, will use it from now on and create backups regularly.

Cromax said:
and then something else will be broken and you will have to do clean install anyway

Well my plan would be to do full check after restore, like with sfc. Will see. There are many ifs, and maybe it wont work at all even if I want to.

I have free old 500GB 2.5" SATA HDD. Maybe I can try this game on this drive. But image is from NVMe SSD and this is SATA HDD. Will this work if we omit corrupted image?

SIW2 · Jun 28, 2022

Well my plan would be to do full check after restore, like with sfc.

you could try that thing with dism, point it at the restored partition using a .wim as the source

glasskuter · Jun 28, 2022

Eddward said:
like with sfc

SFC checks only windows system files. It does not check personal files, apps you've installed,etc.

Eddward · Jun 28, 2022

I was referring to this:

Cromax said:
and then something else will be broken and you will have to do clean install anyway

Of course it does not check personal files or other apps, but these I can easily replace / reinstall or just delete... it wont be a reason to do clean install. Reason might be due to corrupted windows files, which I can check with this system file check.

SIW2 · Jun 28, 2022

Eddward said:
I was referring to this:

Of course it does not check personal files or other apps, but these I can easily replace / reinstall or just delete... it wont be a reason to do clean install. Reason might be due to corrupted windows files, which I can check with this system file check.

Yes that is worth a try.

The other thing is

Dism /Image: E:\offline /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth /Source: F:\mount\windows

where E: is the restored partition and one of the images from install.wim has been mounted to f:\mount

You can run the dism command from another os, or presumably from booted winpe

The genral idea is that it detects what is broken on E: and replaces them with files from f:\mount\windows

I haven't played with it so I dont know which build number install.wim it should be.

you can get an iso containing install.wim from techbench TechBench by WZT (v4.1.1)

Eddward · Jun 30, 2022

New drive arrived. Will replace it later, have a question in advance in case of restoring backup. I did backup of all partitions from old drive, so that means including all hidden partitions. In case of restoring do I need to restore only Windows partition C: or all of them ?

zbook · Jun 30, 2022

A clean install can be performed on the new drive creating four new default partitions:
EFI, Reserved, Windows, Recovery

Then the C: backup image can be restored to the Windows partition.

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Scott · Jun 30, 2022

@Eddward , just out of curiosity, how old is your Samsung 970 EVO?

glasskuter · Jun 30, 2022

As @zbook says, a clean install will build the partitions correctly. When you do the restore from the Macrium backup, you drag each partition onto its corresponding partition that the installation built on the new hard drive.

Eddward · Jun 30, 2022

So restoring of C: image finished 100% however pc is not booting and trying to repair windows, as expected as there were errors. Not sure if this can be fixed with windows usb installation media.

970 EVO has manufacuturing date 11.2018

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managed to run dism command, but did not help, I guess I am not going to waste time trying to fix this.... will go with clean install and copy later what I need from the backupimage

glasskuter · Jun 30, 2022

Eddward said:
date 11.2018

Don't those things have a 5 yr warranty?

Eddward · Jun 30, 2022

I think yes. I can try to RMA it, good point. But dont really like that data are accessible there.

SIW2 · Jun 30, 2022

Is there something in samsung toolbox that can sanitize it ?

Eddward · Jun 30, 2022

There is possible only Secure Erase but it is not working. Nothing I can do.

SIW2 · Jun 30, 2022

You might try another ssd erase thing. I think there is one in parted magic. maybe some other other linux rescue media also have it

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