Buying a new Windows 11 computer


Rboppy

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Want it to be a local admin not Microsoft!

Want to be able to network the 4 other Windows 10 computers without having to spend 2 or 3 days asking how and why.
 
Windows Build/Version
Right now W10, 22H2 (19045.5737)

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo 700
In this video, i will guide you on how to use a new Windows 11 trick that lets you bypass Microsoft Account requirement.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
Want it to be a local admin not Microsoft!

Want to be able to network the 4 other Windows 10 computers without having to spend 2 or 3 days asking how and why.
Read the tutorials on installation and networking.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
There’s no magical computer that you can buy that does everything the way you want it to without learning how to set it up and configuring it to do what you want it to.

There’s also no magical way to instantly teach you how to do things.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
If you can't be bothered to write in complete sentences, I can't be bothered to assist. All the info is here on this website. On the top line, where it says tutorials, click on the drop-down arrow and select Tutorials Index and then use CTRL + F to search. Please come back in a few days with some intelligent questions.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
To encourage you to learn, here is a bit of reading to get you started.
I’d advise you to use Tutorials from this forum, wherever possible.







 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
Welcome to the forum.
To set up a local account during out of box experience:
Do not connect to internet

When you reach the keyboard layout screen DO NOT SELECT SKIP.
Hit Shift+F10 keyboard combination to open a Windows command prompt.
At the prompt, type start ms-cxh:localonly
and press Enter on your keyboard to open a create user account window.
After filling in the information and creating security questions, click the Next button, the Windows 11 setup should continue using a local account
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Networking is a can of worms for a lot of us and depends on a number of factors.
The most BASIC networking settings are
Make sure network is set to PRIVATE-
Settings > Network & internet. At the top of the screen, make sure that the computer shows Private network and NOT Public network. If it shows the network to be public, click there and change it to Private.Also on this page under All Networks you can choose to turn off password protected sharing if you wish.

Still in Network & internet, click on Advanced network setting > Advanced sharing settings. Under the Private networks section, make sure that both Network discovery and File and printer sharing are turned on.

Other settings may be needed to get sharing to work depending on whether you have networking set up between your computers NOW, what other operating systems you intend to network the new computer with, and whether you choose to use password protected sharing? Also whether or not you already know how to share files and folders.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
If buying a new PC, Windows 11 will already be installed, surely?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
If buying a new PC, Windows 11 will already be installed, surely?
Yes, but account setup procedure is the same in OOBE in a new machine as it is with a clean install. I know about 6 or 8 months ago the bypassnro method worked for me when I set up a new laptop.. Now that MS stopped that method, the command start ms-cxh:localonly is one of 2 different commands one can use to set up a local account according to Brink's clean install tutorial..
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Yes, but account setup procedure is the same in OOBE in a new machine as it is with a clean install. I know about 6 or 8 months ago the bypassnro method worked for me when I set up a new laptop.. Now that MS stopped that method, the command start ms-cxh:localonly is one of 2 different commands one can use to set up a local account according to Brink's clean install tutorial..

I didn't know of these methods... so when MS insisted on an account (24H2), I gave it the email of a throwaway account I have but never use. I then declined everything network related: OneDrive, Backup, etc.

I'll note that my new system doesn't have a physical network off or mode switch so short of disconnecting the router (which wasn't a viable option at the moment) I let it connect to the network.

When it was done, I signed on and created a new local account. Then I deleted the one associated with the email it had insisted on.

I don't know if there are other implications to this, but so far, so good. I'm local only.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 7 155H
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Arc integrated
    Hard Drives
    SSD
I don't know if there are other implications to this, but so far, so good. I'm local only
You're good. That's one way to set up a local account, but it takes longer.. Most folks don't use a throwaway account, though. Keep in mind whatever email/pw you used as a MS account stores your device encryption or bitlocker key (if you use it) as well as registers that device to that account. So be sure to keep record of the credentials that you used. You might have a need to use it in the future for one of various reasons.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
Want it to be a local admin not Microsoft!

Want to be able to network the 4 other Windows 10 computers without having to spend 2 or 3 days asking how and why.
Consult your local IT professional. My number is in the book, and my charge is .... (Magic wands are extra ...)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 2xH2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 2xH2 (latest update ... 4ever anal)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
I want to thank everyone who replied with an actual suggestion, very helpful. Will spend the next few days studying some of the tutorials and searching the web for more suggestions. Will report back by the end of the week (I hope) with some positive feedback.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo 700
Got it sooner then I thought. Everything worked well (thank you @glasskuter), except networking but I knew that was going to be problematic. I have several computers networked the 3 I use all have the same user name, 2 of them have the same password. The computer I'm replacing (W10) I can see it during Map Network drive but I get a Windows cannot access \\......, diagnostics says W10 is not responding.
I can map a drive to the new computer from W10 but can't do anything. Sorry no screen shots this is W10 computer.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo 700
Good to hear @Rboppy. Now, do one more thing so that Onedrive won't nag you to death trying to force you to use it.. Open task manager. In left colum select Startup Apps.
Find Onedrive.exe in the list and disable it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.3775
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    #1 Edge #2 Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
except networking
You're not the first. Sometimes Windows networking - especially between different Windows versions - is a bit of a lottery. You can need that little bit extra good luck and it'll work, or that little bit extra tech skills to know what to twitch and tweak. And known cases where there ain't nuffink that can be dun to make it work!!!

One of the more common options to enable file sharing between users is something like Google drive (NOT NOT NOT OneDrive!!!!!). Users can install Google Drive for Desktop which creates a shared drive letter in Windows Explorer, where files can be added, removed, edited, etc. Unlike OneDrive, Google Drive allows users to control the movement of files, it doesn't just take over the system like OneDrive
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 2xH2 (latest update ... forever anal)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Slim S01
    CPU
    Intel i5-12400
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
    Sound Card
    OOBE
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer 32"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    512GB KIOXIA NVMe
    1TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    OOBE
    Case
    OOBE
    Cooling
    OOBE
    Keyboard
    BT
    Mouse
    BT
    Browser
    Brave FFox Chrome Opera
    Antivirus
    KIS
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 2xH2 (latest update ... 4ever anal)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavillion 15
    CPU
    i7-1165G7 @ 2.80GHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Hard Drives
    Samsung NVMe 512GB
    + numerous/multiple SSD Type C USB enclosures
    Internet Speed
    NBN FTTN 50
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    KIS
@Rboppy
If you will give a brief explanation of what is happening between the 4 computers we can try to help with networking. Give as much info as you can.
Networking issues is different for different people.

Here are some of my notes regarding networking problems I have encountered along the way. By no means does it solve EVERY sharing problem, but when I mixed 10 and 11 in my network, I used these methods to solve the issues I encountered. These suggestions all came from other forum members, especially @Bree and @Wolfzz . Maybe one will help you..

TROUBLESHOOTING NETWORKING ISSUES

good reference- Can't access shared folders from File Explorer - Windows Client

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Open SERVICES. Make sure these services are set to automatic and running

DNS-Client – Server

Function Discovery Provider Host

Function Discovery Resource Publication

SSDP Discovery

UPNP Device Host and Windows Defender Firewall
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COMPUTERS NOT SEEN IN NETWORK MAP

Do this on all systems in network..

Add "LanmanWorkstation" as an additional startup dependency for the "Function Discovery Resource Publication" (FDResPub) service, which seems to do the trick. To do this, you simply open an elevated command prompt (i.e. use the "run as administrator" right-click context menu option to start cmd.exe), then execute the following command:

sc config fdrespub depend= RpcSs/http/fdphost/LanmanWorkstation

Reboot each device after executing this command, and the devices should see each other more reliably in Network and File Manager.
Redirecting
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HOW TO ENABLE INSECURE GUEST LOGONS:

Open Group Policy Editor: Press "Windows key + R", type "gpedit.msc" and press Enter.
  • In right pane, Navigate to the setting: "Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Network > Lanman Workstation".
  • Enable insecure guest logons: Find "Enable insecure guest logons", select "Enabled", and click "OK".
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CREDENTIALS STOP ASKING FOR -Do on all computers on network


FOR Windows PRO-Open Group Policy as admin

Left pane- Computer Configuration,

Right Pane-Windows Settings, Security Settings,Local Policies, Security Options

Right Pane Double click on Microsoft Network Client: Digitally sign communications (always)

Set to "Disabled" Click on OK"

Double click on Microsoft Network Client: Digitally sign communications (if server agrees) Set to "Disabled"Click on OK"


In the left pane under Local Computer Policy, click Computer Configuration

Right Pane-Administrative Templates

Right Pane -Network

Right Pane-Lanman Workstation.

Select Enable insecure guest logons, select Enabled, then select OK.


For Windows HOME Use regedit and go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanWorkstation\Parameters
Create a new DWORD, name it RequireSecuritySignature and set its value to 0.

reference- https://www.elevenforum.com/t/win11-24h2-installed-now-no-network-sharing.29035/

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HOW TO CREATE A WINDOWS CREDENTIAL
If you have password protected sharing turned on and it wants credentials.

Create a Windows credential for an account & password on both client and server computers you are sharing files between.

Search for and open Credential Manager

To add a password to your Windows vault:

Click Start, type Credential Manager and select the name from the list.

Click Windows credential on the right.

Click Add a Windows credential.

In the Internet or network address box, type the name of the computer on the network that you want to access. (example: JoeBlowPC)

In the User name and Password boxes, type the user name and password that you use for that computer and then click OK.

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Good Luck.
 

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You're not the first. Sometimes Windows networking - especially between different Windows versions - is a bit of a lottery. You can need that little bit extra good luck and it'll work, or that little bit extra tech skills to know what to twitch and tweak. And known cases where there ain't nuffink that can be dun to make it work!!!

One of the more common options to enable file sharing between users is something like Google drive (NOT NOT NOT OneDrive!!!!!). Users can install Google Drive for Desktop which creates a shared drive letter in Windows Explorer, where files can be added, removed, edited, etc. Unlike OneDrive, Google Drive allows users to control the movement of files, it doesn't just take over the system like OneDrive
ok, now we know you're an IT specialist. Let me give you a problem I'm having. I have a program called Synergy, it allows me to use my keyboard and trackball on more than 1 computer (it's like a mks switch with no buttons). It requires me to reserve an IP address for the server so the client can sign up. Ok, I have a 3 year old router where I reserved 192.168.1.120 to the server. Both the server and client talk to each other while going back and forth between screens. I looked at my router today and the reservation was changed to ...119, but the client still sees ...120 and the server stills has ...120 as its IP address. Do I need a new router? Do you live in Oregon where you could come help me?

I really don't care about that as long as when I make W11 my office computer I can network with all my other computers and Synergy still works.

Why has Microsoft made networking so difficult?
 

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    NVIDIA GeForce GT730
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