Classic File Explorer With Ribbon

garlin · Oct 31, 2022

HDL said:
I don't think I am a non-technical user but I do know there are many things I find hard to understand. However, I have believe I can run the command prompt and edit the registry without a problem. I do have one question though, will this solution work on Windows 11 version 22H2?

The article could be organized better. He presents 4 solutions:
21H2 - known regedit that Brink has posted

22H2 - up-arrow trick, only works on one Explorer at a time
22H2 - copy over old 21H2 ExplorerFrame.dll
22H2 - hardlink Explorer from WinSxS, your choice of regedit editing or running a script

Last two methods require repeating if you install the monthly updates, because it will overwrite the changes. There is no permanent fix, and also running "sfc /scannow" will restore the new ribbon. Just repeat the steps again.

HDL · Oct 31, 2022

Edwin said:
I'm sure it will, done properly!
In my case, StartAllBack takes care of it for me...

Thank you for the reply. The "done properly" is worrisome to me because in reading over the link I didn't see StartAllBack anywhere. I probably missed it.

However, I did try Method 1, using control panel, and that did nothing at all. I then read Method 2 and that was a bit confusing in that it mentioned using the command prompt and then editing the Registry. Or, I could download a zip file to do all that for me. This is what it said, "
Automate the above using REG file

Download w11-ribbon-enable-disable.zip (Contains ribbon-enable.reg and ribbon-disable.reg to enable and disable the ribbon UI. **The explorer.exe path in the REG files is hard-coded for version 22621.608.)"

I downloaded the file, changed the .reg files to .txt files so I could read the code. In trusting what I think I read, it would end up accomplishing what is described in Method 2 but it appears it is doing it without using the command prompt first and only using a reg file. I am not sure if I have to do the command part of the Method 2 first or just run the .reg file alone.

Reeeploi0 · Oct 31, 2022

HDL said:
I must have lucked out or I am not understanding what this is about, but my File Explorer opens with all the folders I ever had in it. Please see attachment. Maybe it is because I have always used this shortcut to open File Explorer, C:\Windows\explorer.exe /e."HDL"View attachment 43852

The Quick Access pins used to be located directly under HOME. Now they are moved to their own list with no header, just a separator. These same files also used to be under "This PC" but now are located under "This PC - Windows (c:) - Users. They are no longer accessible from 2 different folders under "This PC". Here is my File Explorer before and after the October update. I unpinned the Quick Access pins. I also added a shortcut to HOME to my desktop, but it is no different than clicking File Manager in taskbar. PLus I configured File Exploroer to open to HOME not This PC.

HDL · Oct 31, 2022

CharmaineK said:
The Quick Access pins used to be located directly under HOME. Now they are moved to their own list with no header, just a separator. These same files also used to be under "This PC" but now are located under "This PC - Windows (c:) - Users. They are no longer accessible from 2 different folders under "This PC". Here is my File Explorer before and after the October update. I unpinned the Quick Access pins. I also added a shortcut to HOME to my desktop, but it is no different than clicking File Manager in taskbar. PLus I configured File Exploroer to open to HOME not This PC.

Yes, I see what you're talking about but mine does not seem to be like your at all. Mine does not have anything that says Windows C: Thanks for your reply.

Reeeploi0 · Oct 31, 2022

HDL said:
Yes, I see what you're talking about but mine does not seem to be like your at all. Mine does not have anything that says Windows C: Thanks for your reply.

Yours is listed as "Local Disc C". You open it to find your local user profile which has the folders under HOME or PINNED. Different name than mine. Not sure why it's different but is still a path for the C drive.

HDL · Oct 31, 2022

Yes, but as far as I know I have always had that path for C: Drive. Just looked at an older Windows 10 machine and it too has that C: drive listed the same as what I show above. Again, I think it is because of the shortcut's path I use to open the File Explorer - C:\Windows\explorer.exe /e."HDL"

HDL · Oct 31, 2022

garlin said:
The article could be organized better. He presents 4 solutions:
21H2 - known regedit that Brink has posted

22H2 - up-arrow trick, only works on one Explorer at a time
22H2 - copy over old 21H2 ExplorerFrame.dll
22H2 - hardlink Explorer from WinSxS, your choice of regedit editing or running a script

Last two methods require repeating if you install the monthly updates, because it will overwrite the changes. There is no permanent fix, and also running "sfc /scannow" will restore the new ribbon. Just repeat the steps again.

Not at all sure how I missed your post but thank you for it. I didn't realize what you said about the last two methods. I think I'll try to wait it out and see if a more permanent solution is forthcoming. Unless I did something wrong, the up-arrow trick did not work for me at all. May give it another shot and see.

HDL · Oct 31, 2022

Nope Method 1 using Alt + Up Arrow does absolutely nothing and inside Control Panel and hitting the up arrow takes me to an Adjust Your Computer's Settings in the Control Panel.

HDL · Oct 31, 2022

One more post and I think that will be it on opening File Explorer. I have a shortcut for This PC on my desktop and it opens as can be seen in the first attachment. I have another File Explorer that opens using C:\Windows\explorer.exe. It can be seen in the second attachment. All mine seem to have the Local C: drive in the left pane.

Edwin · Oct 31, 2022

They're always called Local Disk by default unless you rename it...

Scott · Nov 1, 2022

HDL said:
Nope Method 1 using Alt + Up Arrow does absolutely nothing and inside Control Panel and hitting the up arrow takes me to an Adjust Your Computer's Settings in the Control Panel.

Click the up arrow twice.

Edit: No need to use the Alt button. Just click the up arrow twice.

HDL · Nov 1, 2022

Scott said:
Click the up arrow twice.

Edit: No need to use the Alt button. Just click the up arrow twice.

Yep, that did it. Thanks.

HDL · Nov 1, 2022

Scott said:
Click the up arrow twice.

Edit: No need to use the Alt button. Just click the up arrow twice.

Does anyone know how to create a bat file to open the Control Panel and then to select the "Up To Control Panel" arrow and either click it twice or hit the Alt Up arrow on the keyboard twice? I'm not sure it can be done but even if it can, I sure don't know how to do it. Now that I finally get that method to work, I like the File Explorer it opens and a bat file would make it much simpler. Thanks

HDL · Nov 1, 2022

Well I just found out I do have a problem with the way the new file explorer opens. Even though I see and can access my Documents folder I cannot open the folders under it as I was able to do in the past. In other words there is no ">" beside Documents for me to get to its sub-folders. I can drill down starting at C: Drive but that is a pain and time consuming. Is there any way to fix this?

HDL · Nov 1, 2022

HDL said:
Well I just found out I do have a problem with the way the new file explorer opens. Even though I see and can access my Documents folder I cannot open the folders under it as I was able to do in the past. In other words there is no ">" beside Documents for me to get to its sub-folders. I can drill down starting at C: Drive but that is a pain and time consuming. Is there any way to fix this?

I think I just found a way to do what I was looking for. Now my question is, is thre a way to make a new tab open with the path created in it? What I mean is, I have added a new tab to File Explorer, can it be permanent and open when I open File Explorer? If so, how can I do that?

das10 · Nov 1, 2022

Batch file to open Explorer with Ribbon (using the Control Panel method) - works for me most of the time. Tabs can't be opened in Ribbon View.

Code:

<# ::
:: note: When Explorer opens with the Ribbon, it's not possible to add tabs.
setlocal
powershell -noprofile -ExecutionPolicy ByPass "[ScriptBlock]::Create((${%~f0} | out-string)) | Invoke-Expression" & Exit
goto :EOF
#>
function TT {Start-Sleep -Milliseconds 750}
[void][Reflection.Assembly]::LoadWithPartialName('Microsoft.VisualBasic')
Add-Type -AssemblyName System.Windows.Forms
$send = [System.Windows.Forms.SendKeys]
Start-Process 'Control'    ; TT
[Microsoft.VisualBasic.Interaction]::AppActivate("Control Panel")
TT; $send::SendWait( '^l' ); TT; $send::SendWait( 'Desktop~' )     # or other locations

HDL · Nov 1, 2022

das10 said:
<# :: :: note: When Explorer opens with the Ribbon, it's not possible to add tabs. setlocal powershell -noprofile -ExecutionPolicy ByPass "[ScriptBlock]::Create((${%~f0} | out-string)) | Invoke-Expression" & Exit goto :EOF #> function TT {Start-Sleep -Milliseconds 750} [void][Reflection.Assembly]::LoadWithPartialName('Microsoft.VisualBasic') Add-Type -AssemblyName System.Windows.Forms $send = [System.Windows.Forms.SendKeys] Start-Process 'Control' ; TT [Microsoft.VisualBasic.Interaction]::AppActivate("Control Panel") TT; $send::SendWait( '^l' ); TT; $send::SendWait( 'Desktop~' ) # or other locations

That worked great, Thank you.

Reeeploi0 · Nov 1, 2022

HDL said:
Well I just found out I do have a problem with the way the new file explorer opens. Even though I see and can access my Documents folder I cannot open the folders under it as I was able to do in the past. In other words there is no ">" beside Documents for me to get to its sub-folders. I can drill down starting at C: Drive but that is a pain and time consuming. Is there any way to fix this?

I think I am having the same issue since the update. Documents used to be listed alone under Windows (C:) Now I have to browse to This PC - Windows (C:) - Users - Username. There are no documents in this location; however, they are located in: C:\Users\username\OneDrive\Documents and when I open Documents under OneDrive in the Home tab. Does it matter that there are no documents and pictures saved in my local folder under Windows (C:)? Do files created on my laptop automatically save to that location or do I have to manually move them? When I create a document it syncs to OneDrive. Will I still be able to access files when not connected to the internet if there are no documents in my local users folder? I don't think I even looked at this folder before the latest update. I only did because I noticed the menus changed. I did save a PDF to my computer documents, but it went to downloads in my local Windows (C:) downloads folder. This is a new issue. I've saved many PDF forms before the latest update and no issue saving to the documents folder.

HDL · Nov 1, 2022

CharmaineK said:
This is a new issue. I've saved many PDF forms before the latest update and no issue saving to the documents folder.

If you click on Documents in the second group down immediately above Downloads, is that empty? Mine is not.

Reeeploi0 · Nov 1, 2022

HDL said:
If you click on Documents in the second group down immediately above Downloads, is that empty? Mine is not.

Maybe I'm just duh? LOL. Fillable PDFs from the internet probably always went to Downloads. I'm just thrown off a bit due to the new folder layout and new folder locations. Plus, files I created don't save to my local documents folder in the C drive. I use Onedrive so it's not a great issue. I just want to save files locally aswell but I found I can still access everything offline eventhough my files are not saved in my local folder. Guess it a manual task to copy and paste from the other Document location under Home/Onedrive. What is the purpose of saving to the local folder and should I?

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