Do you use 7zip, or Winrar?


Do you use 7zip or WinRAR

  • 7ZIP

    Votes: 59 45.7%
  • WinRAR

    Votes: 55 42.6%
  • Other (Please comment!)

    Votes: 13 10.1%
  • PeaZp

    Votes: 2 1.6%

  • Total voters
    129
Yes.
 

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How often does one hash check an ISO? It's like looking for problems. If there's a problem, rule it out. Don't always rule something in, there's no real need?

Haven't felt the need to hash check an ISO since longer than I care to remember. Modern browsers handle file transfers pretty well, even large files (ISOs can run to GBs). Modern net connections have sophisticated error checking, not to mention within the protocols themselves.

If you update CPU microcode, then chip errata isn't likely to even be a variable. Each to their own, but I'd think you'd need to have been burned by a faulty ISO download to do the check habitually. I've only had it twice (ISO issues) and neither were download (RAM and faulty optical drive, back in the day).
 

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I have 7zip installed but most of the time I just right click on the file and choose Extract All. I've never had a need to compress a file or folder.
 

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If memory serves, I once ran WinRar, and then they wanted Money for it, and that sort of killed it for me.
Nowadays, 7Zip (free) serves my zippy needs, which are few.
 

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WinRAR. Nicely integrated into the new Windows 11 context menu
 
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How often does one hash check an ISO? It's like looking for problems. If there's a problem, rule it out. Don't always rule something in, there's no real need?

Haven't felt the need to hash check an ISO since longer than I care to remember. Modern browsers handle file transfers pretty well, even large files (ISOs can run to GBs). Modern net connections have sophisticated error checking, not to mention within the protocols themselves.

If you update CPU microcode, then chip errata isn't likely to even be a variable. Each to their own, but I'd think you'd need to have been burned by a faulty ISO download to do the check habitually. I've only had it twice (ISO issues) and neither were download (RAM and faulty optical drive, back in the day).
Read post #80, it's a file hash. Not an ISO hash. And different files with identical names can be misplaced by the person who is responsible for putting them in the right spot or by whoever it was that got them mixed up before you received the wrong file, not to mention hacker/malware attacks can be spread that way because you didn't check that it's still the same as the original file that hadn't been tampered with. The free tool named FastCopy (which I recommend for copying of file/folder data) has an option to use built-in hash calculation for logging of file hash codes and also comes with a separate tool FcHash. Some people use file hash comparisons all the time (CRC32 in combination with checking for the correct filesize used to be quite common, but nowadays I prefer MD5/SHA256), it's got nothing to do with being paranoid or anything. Just a pragmatic approach to data verification or part thereof, to be used in the most practical sense of verifying a file.
 

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Regarding hashes. The best, simplest and most convenient utility is HashTab. It's simply a "File Hashes" tab on the file properties dialog. And the best version of it is 5.2.0.14. It also does comparisons. It's seamless and looks like it's part of Windows, which it should be.

HashTab Example.jpg
 

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Regarding hashes. The best, simplest and most convenient utility is HashTab. It's simply a "File Hashes" tab on the file properties dialog. And the best version of it is 5.2.0.14. It also does comparisons. It's seamless and looks like it's part of Windows, which it should be.

View attachment 61338
It doesn't let me take control over what files should be processed or when. So I don't use it.
 

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It doesn't let me take control over what files should be processed or when. So I don't use it.
I'm confused by your comment. I don't understand what you're trying to control. Hashes have nothing to do with control.

File hashes are a way of identifying and verifying that a file is legitimate or comparing it against another file to see if it matches. It's a unique signature. If the hashes don't match, then it's not the same file. If the hashes match, then it is the same file.
 

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    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
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    N/A
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    N/A
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    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
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    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
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    Mozilla Firefox
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    N/A
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    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
More on File Hashes: Sometimes on software developers' websites, you'll see the file hashes beside the download link. What that means is, if your files don't match those file hashes, then you don't have the genuine files.

By the way... I've already posted my opinion on 7-Zip vs WinRAR. :-)
 

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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Stigg's Build
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    Intel Core i9-10900X
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    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
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    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
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    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
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    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
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    1920 x 1080
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    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
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    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
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    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
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    Razer Ornata V2
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    Razer DeathAdder Essential
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    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
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    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
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    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
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    Windows 10 Pro
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    Laptop
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    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
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    Core i7-8750H
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    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
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    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
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    N/A
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    N/A
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    N/A
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    Razer DeathAdder Essential
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    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
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    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
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    Mozilla Firefox
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    N/A
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    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
I'm confused by your comment. I don't understand what you're trying to control. Hashes have nothing to do with control.
I don't want my files to be processed by any program or shell extension until I decide that it should happen. FastCopy reads the files when it needs to copy them, so that's very often the best suitable moment to let file hashes be calculated and be stored in a log file for later (re)use because else the files need to be read twice (one time to copy the files, a second time to calculate the hashes). In situations when there's no need to let all the data be read twice, I want to be able to choose to avoid that. AFAIK there's no CLI version of HashTab so controlling it via scripting is off the table, and no hopes of ever getting an update either─because it's been discontinued.
File hashes are a way of identifying and verifying that a file is legitimate or comparing it against another file to see if it matches. It's a unique signature. If the hashes don't match, then it's not the same file. If the hashes match, then it is the same file.
Already know all that... been using various types of hash calculation methods for the past 38 years.
 
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    i7 13650HX
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    16GB DDR5
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    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
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    Li-ion
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    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
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    Logitech G402
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
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    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
I don't want my files to be processed by any program or shell extension until I decide that it should happen. FastCopy reads the files when it needs to copy them, so that's very often the best suitable moment to let file hashes be calculated and be stored in a log file for later (re)use because else the files need to be read twice (one time to copy the files, a second time to calculate the hashes). In situations when there's no need to let all the data be read twice, I want to be able to choose to avoid that. AFAIK there's no CLI version of HashTab so controlling it via scripting is off the table, and no hopes of over getting an update either─because it's been discontinued.

Already know all that... been using various types of hash calculation methods for the past 38 years.
My apologies. I guess I misunderstood you.
Someone else might come along and be able to help you with whatever it is you're asking.
 

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    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
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    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
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    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
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    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
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    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
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    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
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    Razer DeathAdder Essential
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    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
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    Windows 10 Pro
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    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
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    Core i7-8750H
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NirSoft HashMyFiles can be controlled by a script [Command-Line Options are described about three-quarters of the way down the webpage].
Perhaps it might suit your needs.


Denis
 

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My apologies. I guess I misunderstood you.
Someone else might come along and be able to help you with whatever it is you're asking.
No need to apologize, I am well aware that my explanations are not always totally clear (even though I try to be clear). I am not looking for help, but am always open to various suggestions because I am curious.

File hash calculations can be too time consuming especially in situations when the amount of file data to be read is large and/or all the reading is done from a slow performing storage device. It also eats up storage transfer connection bandwidth (USB/LAN/SATA/etc.), potentially slowing the connection for longer than might be feasible at the time when it happens so that's why it can make sense to want to take control (either manually or programatically via scripting) over it. (Even, if the hash calculations can be performed within a low priority background process to try to preserve the bandwidth.) Another thing is that write access may be restricted on the location where the files are stored, in which case the ability to take control over what location the file hashes should be stored may also be needed. Does HashTab let you abort the processing that goes on in the shell extension while it calculates the file hashes or do you need to kill explorer for this?
 

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Nanazip seems to work well.
 

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WinRAR 6.22

 

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NirSoft HashMyFiles can be controlled by a script [Command-Line Options are described about three-quarters of the way down the webpage].
Perhaps it might suit your needs.
I am already familiar with it, and have been using various useful tools from NirSoft since the Win XP days, but I don't use HashMyFiles because both FastCopy and FcHash (the latter comes included with FastCopy as a separate tool) are similar to it. Thanks anyway for suggesting it. But, FastCopy gives the advantage of letting me copy my files in such a way that these same files don't need to be read a second time to calculate the file hashes.

That is, FastCopy gives the option to let file hashes be written to the log file that it can output during the copying task. It supports both unicode and long paths, and it works well─better than any other copy tool that I have tried. FastCopy can either be used in CLI mode or be used in GUI mode, similar to WinRAR.exe and 7z.exe (the main difference being that it's just a copy tool so it can't create/modify/extract/test/repair archives). Parsing of the log files can easily be done by writing your own scripts.

One advantage of copying files on an NTFS volume in lieu of storing them inside ZIP/RAR archives is that files can immediately be used with the full featureset of NTFS so it totally eliminates the extra burden or need to extract files from archives. So, by simply hotswapping removable drives (be it via USB or via caddies/sleds/whatever), as a result of this it becomes possible to quickly conveniently switch back and forth the purpose/role of multiple individual drives between 'reliable backup copy' and 'currently actively in use', as I can physically unplug a drive and move it to a safe location before moving another drive away from the safe location (and plugging this other drive in). No need to do anything else.

For this same reason, I avoid all backup software. The extra step of restoring a backup of files stored inside another file is not useful to me. All it really does is it creates a dependency on an added piece of software that only slows me down. The ability to create an archive containing an incredible number of small files can still be useful, though. For that, I'll use WinRAR. FastCopy does everything else (also including the copying of ZIP/RAR archives and/or ISO/other types of image files, like, e.g., Acronis/Macrium images between different storage locations of course).

Hopefully this further explains what I meant when, earlier in the thread, I wrote that I always aim to choose the right tool for the job. These are just my own personal opinions based on my own personal experiences. YMMV
 

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I verify files only as needed, and I have gobs of storage, so I'm not all that worried, but hdmi's method does sound like a really good method to assure that files are being copied correctly when copying large volumes of data between drives / locations.

As for HashTab, it was great while it lasted, but implbits is not updating it anymore, and there are other alternatives that are also better suited to modern OSs.

The one I currently use is HashCheck shell extension, as it only checks on demand, but can also be associated with hash files directly to verify a given hash with a given file on demand.
 

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I verify files only as needed, and I have gobs of storage, so I'm not all that worried,
Same here.
but hdmi's method does sound like a really good method to assure that files are being copied correctly when copying large volumes of data between drives / locations.
The main purpose of keeping the log files with the file hashes for later use after the copying is done is to be able to re-verify important files several times per year. One reason why this matters is because drive failures and data corruptions can potentially occur the moment when a drive gets unplugged or gets plugged back in, on rare occasions data can also be damaged (or partially) while a drive is being kept in a safe spot AFTER it has been unplugged. So, by switching back and forth the purpose/role of multiple redundant drives (i.e. switching a drive between 1/ it being kept in a safe spot as part of a reliable backup set and 2/ this same drive being actively used for work) following a so-called rotation schedule, each of the drives' contents can be re-verified on a regular basis in a strategy that assures the integrity of the backup set. As a small bonus, the wear and tear resulting from actively using the drives gets distributed more evenly across all of the drives, i.e. when compared to keeping some of the drives in a safe spot near-permanently. The potential risk of a read error going undetected is small, but the consequence when it happens might not be small. In short, the idea is to store and reuse file hashes to be able to re-verify the more critically important of files, primarily.
As for HashTab, it was great while it lasted, but implbits is not updating it anymore, and there are other alternatives that are also better suited to modern OSs.

The one I currently use is HashCheck shell extension, as it only checks on demand, but can also be associated with hash files directly to verify a given hash with a given file on demand.
But can HashCheck do the checks on demand also from within a batchfile, and, if yes, can it cancel the hash calculation process on demand also from within a batchfile, WITHOUT having to kill the explorer.exe process?
 
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