Solved Finding the right laptop

badrobot · Nov 17, 2021

Hazel123 said:
Oh and the other thing. Static and a kind of buzzing feel from the bottom metal part of the laptop. Feels really weird.

You can get rid of that. The "buzzing" is the cooling system of the laptop. It is really important for the performance of the laptop.

ShamrockRig · Nov 17, 2021

Hazel123 said:
Core Temp

To be fair, Those temps arent bad id say for idle considering its a laptop, 60 degrees also isn't that hot for a laptop i dont think either, Put it into retrospect, My 10700k under 100% can easily touch the 80's Albeit it doesnt sit on my lap

badrobot · Nov 17, 2021

Hazel123 said:
Looks good. Does it get very hot? I'm thinking of getting another HP Pavilion DM4 for £100. Might go a year or two. Nothing wrong with the one I have and works really well - except the screen is hanging off by the hinges.

If you are just typing, it shouldn't get too hot. If you are playing games or watching videos, that's when things start to heat up and it's just normal.
If you are planning to get HP Pav DM4, forget about Windows 11 then.

Hazel123 · Nov 17, 2021

Devlin1888 said:
To be fair, Those temps arent bad id say for idle considering its a laptop, 60 degrees also isn't that hot for a laptop i dont think either, Put it into retrospect, My 10700k under 100% can easily touch the 80's Albeit it doesnt sit on my lap

Yes they're not too bad on paper but the metal casing is incredibly hot. As I mentioned earlier, I've used laptops that have got up to 90 degrees but don't get so hot on the outside. Maybe because they had a plastic base rather than metal.

ShamrockRig · Nov 17, 2021

Hazel123 said:
Yes they're not too bad on paper but the metal casing is incredibly hot.

Yeah that sucks D: Hope you get it sorted without too much more drama!

Hazel123 · Nov 17, 2021

badrobot said:
If you are just typing, it shouldn't get too hot. If you are playing games or watching videos, that's when things start to heat up and it's just normal.
If you are planning to get HP Pav DM4, forget about Windows 11 then.

Thanks.

ThrashZone · Nov 17, 2021

Hazel123 said:
Core Temp

Hi,
One bad thing about coretemp is although it shows max temperature reading
It does not show max frequency so max temp is hard to say if it's good or bad.

This is why hwinfo64 comes in handier
Reminder check sensors only on the popup message and okay on the second popup.

TraderGary · Nov 17, 2021

Do you have stores in the UK where you can try each of the laptops on display for keyboard feel, screen display, heat, etc.? I chose the two computers you see below by looking at and touching the display models first.

badrobot · Nov 17, 2021

Hazel123 said:
Yes they're not too bad on paper but the metal casing is incredibly hot. As I mentioned earlier, I've used laptops that have got up to 90 degrees but don't get so hot on the outside. Maybe because they had a plastic base rather than metal.

Metal is better for heat dissipation. I don't understand how you can use a laptop on your lap. It will hurt your neck and back big time.

TraderGary · Nov 17, 2021

badrobot said:
Metal is better for heat dissipation. I don't understand how you can use a laptop on your lap. It will hurt your neck and back b

My two computers are listed under the "laptop" category, but I certainly don't try to use them on my lap. I bought them for portability. I can easily take them with me on my travels.

badrobot · Nov 17, 2021

TraderGary said:
My two computers are listed under the "laptop" category, but I certainly don't try to use them on my lap. I bought them for portability. I can easily take them with me on my travels.

They should change it from laptop to lugtop. People lug these computers everywhere.

Bree · Nov 17, 2021

badrobot said:
I don't understand how you can use a laptop on your lap. It will hurt your neck and back big time.

I do it all the time - sitting back in a nice comfy armchair, back well supported and the laptop on my knees. Keyboard/touchpad is comfortable arms length and screen is only just below eye-level.

TraderGary · Nov 17, 2021

badrobot said:
They should change it from laptop to lugtop. People lug these computers everywhere.

My first portable computer was the original "Luggable". I had a 1983 portable Compaq. It had a handle and weighed 28 pounds!

The Pool Man · Nov 17, 2021

I know next to no one will agree with me but I've always felt laptops have too many compromises. I like a mouse, a big keyboard (that costs pennies to replace), a nice big screen.

If you agree that tablets have too many compromises compared to laptops -- now you know where I'm coming from.

TraderGary · Nov 17, 2021

The Pool Man said:
I know next to no one will agree with me but I've always felt laptops have too many compromises. I like a mouse, a big keyboard (that costs pennies to replace), a nice big screen.

If you agree that tablets have too many compromises compared to laptops -- now you know where I'm coming from.

I can't take being tied down to one single place with a desktop system. I need mobility. I also need power. My System One below is more powerful than any desktop I ever owned. And it has two screens!

Hazel123 · Nov 18, 2021

Bree said:
I do it all the time - sitting back in a nice comfy armchair, back well supported and the laptop on my knees. Keyboard/touchpad is comfortable arms length and screen is only just below eye-level.

Exactly :). And if you semi lie on the sofa with your knees up then the screen is the right height. I personally get more discomfort sitting at a desk.

barman58 · Nov 18, 2021

My first experience with a portable computer was back in the 70's and it took six of us to move it
But back on topic ...

I have been using my Dell XPS 17 for around 5 hours today - and have been updating a selection of large Image processing software just took the external temp on the alloy base (using an IR measuring device) and it was sat at 91.5 F (33C) so was comfortably warm but not dangerously so

Just checked and the max processor temp is 44C, [111F]

Hazel123 · Nov 18, 2021

I think it’s something to do with it being metal and thin. Any laptops I’ve had before have been hard plastic underneath - and while I have had some get extremely hot (eg and old vista one couldn’t handle Windows 7 without overheating) - never to the point it has been painful!

The seller wants me to claim on the warranty. The warranty does sound genuine (from John Lewis). While I only have a screen shot with the original order number, I could call John Lewis and check - hence I think the warranty is probably genuine.

However if they did send it off, that then leaves me with no laptop for ages. So I still think the seller should take it back and sort it out themselves.

barman58 · Nov 18, 2021

My XPS is a mix of Aluminium and Carbon Fibre for the shell and I took the temperature from the hottest part of the alloy base - where it would sit on the legs of a person using it on their lap.

The problem with an original seller warranty is it would not normally be transferable to a second owner. also if the fault was covered by the warranty, why would the seller sell it for less than they could recover from using the warranty system ?

That would be my concern

barman58 · Nov 18, 2021

@Hazel123

You may want to take a look through this from eBay which states their buyer protection policy ...

Return an item for a refund

If you've changed your mind about an item you bought or there's something wrong with it, you can request a return.

www.ebay.co.uk

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