I kind of agree with this article! (Not a question)

jimbo45 said:

It's a pain to get them out of a laptop -- I had to remove almost everything including one of those flat lithium ion batteries -- not the old classical round ones, the screen and keyboard to get at the slot to replace a 256GB card with a new (faster) 1 TB one (I wish I'd put a 2TB one in it now) --but really fast - the laptop is around 7 years old and has been through more airports and scanner than most people have had hot dinners - and the old nvme was still working. I don't know why that old hoary chestnut of ssd's etc wearing out quickly came from --I'm sure they are just as reliable if not even more so than older spinners.

These things are getting cheaper by the day -- but the disadvantage is of course is that in a small space they can run quite hot so ensure fans are not obstructed in any way.

cheers
jimbo

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I find removing the keyboard from a laptop annoying just to replace an SSD. Some are made that way, like my wife's field laptop. I have a gut feeling my Dell touchscreen might be the same. It also uses that flatter Lithium-Ion battery that can't be removed unless you open the entire thing up. I have a feeling replacing the NVMe in that thing will be a real PITA. Fortunately, I don't use it a lot. I can't imagine wearing out the drive any time soon.

Scannerman said:

I find removing the keyboard from a laptop annoying just to replace an SSD. Some are made that way, like my wife's field laptop. I have a gut feeling my Dell touchscreen might be the same. It also uses that flatter Lithium-Ion battery that can't be removed unless you open the entire thing up. I have a feeling replacing the NVMe in that thing will be a real PITA. Fortunately, I don't use it a lot. I can't imagine wearing out the drive any time soon.

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I think modern laptops are probably even harder to open and disassemble !!! however the keyboard wasn't too bad as I'd already replaced the UK / GB ENG one with an ISL one so I knew how to do it. However it's really time I got a new laptop -- but I'll wait until amazon etc has "special offer day" -- or what's that thing in the US they have around thanksgiving weekend when there's some sort of special sales --Black Friday or something !!!.

Cheers
jimbo

jimbo45 said:

I think modern laptops are probably even harder to open and disassemble !!! however the keyboard wasn't too bad as I'd already replaced the UK / GB ENG one with an ISL one so I knew how to do it. However it's really time I got a new laptop -- but I'll wait until amazon etc has "special offer day" -- or what's that thing in the US they have around thanksgiving weekend when there's some sort of special sales --Black Friday or something !!!.

Cheers
jimbo

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Be sure to take your time choosing. They've eliminated so many features in the newer laptops that they look like glorified netbooks. Plus they're finally getting USB4 ready system boards for PCs on the market now so you might want to keep an eye out for that. I had a real time trying to find a laptop that had the features I wanted and still included an Ethernet port. There are adapters for this but it's handier to have one built in.

jimbo45 said:

What I like also about raid 0 (at least on NON Windows systems) is that you can combine HDD's etc of different sizes to allow you to use older hdd's etc that you might have replaced to give you more storage (works too for external enclosures). You don't need to have equal size disk capacities and you don't waste storage space.

Not sure how it works with windows devices though as I think Windows in its infinite wisdom eems to imply if you use disks of unequal capacities it uses he capacity of the smallest disk for building the array so you can waste a load of storage.

cheers
jimbo

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I think you're talking about JBOD there but yeah, I noticed this with Intel's soft RAID. Both drives had to be the same size or it would default to the smaller. Total waste of space.

Scannerman said:

Be sure to take your time choosing. They've eliminated so many features in the newer laptops that they look like glorified netbooks. Plus they're finally getting USB4 ready system boards for PCs on the market now so you might want to keep an eye out for that. I had a real time trying to find a laptop that had the features I wanted and still included an Ethernet port. There are adapters for this but it's handier to have one built in.

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Thanks and agreed but a small mains powered 4 port USB adapter is fine when working at home - and when travelling wifi is good enough. I do find the lack of ports on some newer laptops I've seen while googling the various options really annoying - some come with a just single USBC port which is silly if you want to use a non wifi printer or a wireless mouse / keyboard combo and they have annoying non HDMI connector for external monitor access -- again needing an adapter for using a typical TV type external monitor !!!.My old laptop has 3 USB3 connections, SD/micros SD card slot, and HDMI out (with HDMI audio) . (For my purposes USB3 is still fast enough !! although nothing wrong with newer specs if they are standard). I run W11 on it as a VM since the processor itself is too old for W11 and I can't be bothered with all the "get arouinds")

At home I use a cheap 5 port network switch to run short lan cables into a nighthawk wifi extender with the new wifi protocol which gives a theoretical max of around 1.3 Gbps -- which is far faster than the 54Mbps of older wifi cards and it uses both the 5ghz and 2.4 ghz concurrently for max througput too

Using a switch seems to give far better results than running individual LAN cables from the devices direct into the extender --haven't a clue why - but it's much faster.

That way I get LAN connection speeds even for older devices that have no LAN cards (connect via USB->LAN) and for my 2 NAS systems that are a long way from the cable box. Also I don't want messy cables in my main living area since the cable box is fixed to the wall near where I have a TV , a satellite receiver, a SKY Q box and a small firestick device so minimal wires as they all run from wifi apart from the satellite receiver which only has a small wire from the lnb on an external dish to the box and a small bit of HDMI cable from the box to the TV.

I'm on an internet connection of 1Gbps currently being upgraded to 10 Gbps. Seems the same every where - the streets get dug up for some sort of repair, then filled in and after another 3 or 4 weeks the whole thing gets opened up again -- doesn't matter what country you are in -- it always seems to be the same -- why can't services ever work together to fix whatever they have to do while the road is open.

cheers
jimbo

Scannerman said:

Why does anyone need TPM? Ten years of repeated failures, interference with "other OS" in UEFI, interference with dual booting, security keys getting stolen, aggravation, misery, and grief...

My short answer to your first question is, I don't like buying stuff I don't need. But do I "need" TPM? Yeah, sure. Like I need another hole in my head.

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Yet you keep harping on how you wish your board supported it...

Scannerman said:

Sadly, there's one thing it can't do... It can't run TPM2. So that really sucks.

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As pointed out, if it's that important buy a module and find out. It's not that hard.... or expensive.

Scannerman said:

I've already stated that I don't want to bother giving a module "a try" when Tom's and ASUS have already informed me that it isn't an option. So,

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And I already pointed out you clearly misunderstood what you read, which YOU acknowledged - I Still Prefer Windows 10

I'll move on from this one.

Peace

Dru2 said:

Yet you keep harping on how you wish your board supported it...

As pointed out, if it's that important buy a module and find out. It's not that hard.... or expensive.


And I already pointed out you clearly misunderstood what you read, which YOU acknowledged - I Still Prefer Windows 10

I'll move on from this one.

Peace

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TBH I harp more on how I wish TPM2 didn't even exist. I allowed for the possibility that I was mistaken, but on further investigation it does not appear that I am. There are others who have purchased the module and it did not fulfill their expectations either. ASUS states that my system board is not Windows 11 ready. If I am in error it would be more likely that my biggest error here is wishing my system board were compliant with TPM2. I seem to think it will solve all my problems or something. My smaller error is secretly hoping that it would allow me to run TBMT to eliminate that nasty in my device manager. That isn't likely to happen either unless I do some serious surgery.

The reason I wished it worked on my system board is NOT because I needed it but because I had hoped that it would solve certain issues I'm having. That is presumptive of me, I admit, and I kindly thank you for pointing out this fault in my character. TPM2 is likely going to lead to even more issues than it solves so I'm better off being happy with what I have for the time being. Not even my CPU is compatible with Win 11 and it's only a 6 year old CPU.

So yeah, it really sucks. This is the sum of my user experience with Windows 11.

To be quite frank, and per yours posts, I think you're railing against something you understand. And because you don't understand it you view it as a negative. With that I'd also venture to guess you can't even point out what issues it may solve for you. Or that the issues you think it might solve are even relevant to TPM.

Many of us Windows 11 users are using TPM without any issues. Perhaps because we have a basic understanding and don't fear it.

Moving on...

Dru2 said:

To be quite frank, and per yours posts, I think you're railing against something you understand. And because you don't understand it you view it as a negative. With that I'd also venture to guess you can't even point out what issues it may solve for you. Or that the issues you think it might solve are even relevant to TPM.

Many of us Windows 11 users are using TPM with any issues or worry. Perhaps because we have a basic understanding and don't fear it.

Moving on...

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Well, I thank you kindly for your confidence in my ability to comprehend things despite my old and feeble mind. Wait. Now I don't understand it so that's why I view it as negative? Which is it. That many Windows 11 users are using TPM with issues, as you have stated here, should serve as some concern. Perhaps you're just contradicting yourself because this is only human. :::shrugs::: Nobody's perfect. My guess is you'll keep on moving on but you'll be back. I'm irresistible!

TPM is old outdated hardware security -- any hardware device installed in laptops of 7 years old for security (in technological terms 7 years is equivalent to a geological era) is not fit for purpose in C21 -- if it was that important why didn't Ms encourage its use in W10 --even if it wouldn't have been mandatory. There's infinitely better hardware around for handling security if you want to do it via hardware -- even the nvram chips inside the mobos are so much better now.

For example car security --years ago one of the best methods was with a "Steering hook lock" -- a device that fitted over the steering wheel so prevented people driving away. Today those are stupid -- even a smallish bolt cutter or small portable angle grinder would make short work of those. (A portable li-ion small angle grinder by makita at approx € 75 can make short shrift of a wheel clamp in less than 2 mins !!!).

Modern car security means many cars can be 100% immobolized remotely and the security is almost impossible to get hacked. Certainly the car would have to be targeted by a highly professional thief.

In any case there's so many ways people can run W11 without a TPM of any kind, plus the sheer numbers of people doing it - it IMO is 100% probable that Ms won't enforce the issue.

If you really want to run windows 11 and can't get around the TPM rubbish then there's 3 basic simple methods --

1) run in a VM - nd use an emulated TPM. On Linux hosts it's package SWTPM (with swtpm-tools, swtpm-lib etc -- whatever the package is for your distro), and on a Windows host HYPER-V an emulated TPM works too. Then clone the VM to a real machine.

2) install W11 via dism /Apply-Image and install the bootmanager (bcdboot) after applying the image.

3) use rufus to generate a windows install with the options to bypass the restrictions.

@Scannerman is perfectly correct in complaining about the TPM. If he prefers W10 as well that's choice -- nothing wrong with that.

cheers
jimbo

jimbo45 said:

TPM is old outdated hardware security -- any hardware device installed in laptops of 7 years old for security (in technological terms 7 years is equivalent to a geological era) is not fit for purpose in C21 -- if it was that important why didn't Ms encourage its use in W10 --even if it wouldn't have been mandatory. There's infinitely better hardware around for handling security if you want to do it via hardware -- even the nvram chips inside the mobos are so much better now.

For example car security --years ago one of the best methods was with a "Steering hook lock" -- a device that fitted over the steering wheel so prevented people driving away. Today those are stupid -- even a smallish bolt cutter or small portable angle grinder would make short work of those. (A portable li-ion small angle grinder by makita at approx € 75 can make short shrift of a wheel clamp in less than 2 mins !!!).

Modern car security means many cars can be 100% immobolized remotely and the security is almost impossible to get hacked. Certainly the car would have to be targeted by a highly professional thief.

In any case there's so many ways people can run W11 without a TPM of any kind, plus the sheer numbers of people doing it - it IMO is 100% probable that Ms won't enforce the issue.

If you really want to run windows 11 and can't get around the TPM rubbish then there's 3 basic simple methods --

1) run in a VM - nd use an emulated TPM. On Linux hosts it's package SWTPM (with swtpm-tools, swtpm-lib etc -- whatever the package is for your distro), and on a Windows host HYPER-V an emulated TPM works too. Then clone the VM to a real machine.

2) install W11 via dism /Apply-Image and install the bootmanager (bcdboot) after applying the image.

3) use rufus to generate a windows install with the options to bypass the restrictions.

@Scannerman is perfectly correct in complaining about the TPM. If he prefers W10 as well that's choice -- nothing wrong with that.

cheers
jimbo

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Thanks jimbo. I really do not prefer Windows 10. Windows 11 actually had my hopes up. My favourite Windows OS is Win 7 Ultimate (64 bit) minus all the languages. I'm typing this on my Windows 7/11 PC but I'll likely be using the Rufus method at some point instead of the method listed on the Microsoft page to reinstall Windows 11. Who knows? Perhaps I'll even be able to install the TBMT driver with the Rufus method. Right now I'm experimenting with some hardware on this build and it looks promising. Once I get my boot order straightened out in Windows Disk Management I'll be giving the PC an overhaul. Windows has yet to impress me with an OS that is better than what Win 7 was and I'm not holding my breath.