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Used Macrium Reflect for awhile now. It's personal preference really.
 

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    Intel Core Ultra 9 285K (Corsair Link Titan 360 RX)
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    ASUS ROG Maximus Z890 Hero (WI-FI)
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I disagree - to a point.

I agree that a snapshot is NOT a backup. However, a backup that is taken that is based upon a snapshot is perfectly reliable.

Before a snapshot is taken, Windows stops all data from being written to the ACTIVE filesystem and flushes any writes that are in flight to give you a consistent point in time. Only then is the snapshot taken and the backup is then in turn based upon the contents of the snapshot which remain consistent and do not change during the entire duration of the backup.

I'm giving the highly simplified version here, because there is actually a lot more involved. For databases, mail servers, etc., those types of programs are VSS aware and take special actions when VSS is preparing to take a snapshot so that those applications can guarantee consistency down to the individual transaction, but that's a complicated topic that we don't need to go into here.

So, while a snapshot is not a backup by itself, a snapshot can allow you to create a reliable, consistent snapshot.

Please be aware that I am making the assumption that everything is working properly. As with everything else, things can break. But then again, things can break even if you are doing a backup where the OS is not even running. Nothing is perfect :-)
Yes, a backup that is based upon a snapshot is perfectly reliable, just not in the particular sense that, after the restore, problems can not occur as a result of data partially gone missing during the backup process. The part of the data that goes missing is the part that, AFTER the point in time that you are referring to here, gets written to the volume by those specific tasks that lack the ability to be made aware of the fact that a snapshot of this volume is about to be taken.

One reason why I don't need to go into the complicated topic of application-consistent snapshots here is exactly because I shut down Windows before I make an image of the partition that Windows has been installed on. Neither the bootable ISO of Acronis nor the bootable ISO of Macrium will alter the data stored on that partition after I boot into that ISO with Ventoy, excepting only if I use that ISO to purposefully mess with that partition of course, but then, I am too lazy to even try to mess with it, so... until the verification finished OK, that partition is going to stay 100% unaltered. Of if the SSD fails in such a way that it is what causes that partition to still be altered, then it will be extremely unlikely that the verification will still finish OK, as read errors going twice undetected are rare like unicorns. (Maybe even rarer than that.)

The other reason why I don't need to go into that topic here is because it plays a fairly important role in what I do for a living as an Enterprise Java developer, and I like to keep all my Windows related hobbies almost completely separate from all my work related stuff. So, I will only add that, while it certainly is true that inconsistencies are not always problematic in the particular sense that they cannot safely be ignored, they still can be problematic in that particular sense.

The fact that Windows stops all data from being written in such a way that any chunk of data that still needed to be written will be absent after the restore because it will be absent from the actual backup itself, and stops it regardless of whether a task has the ability to recover from an inconsistency that results from this absence is one obvious example of why that is, and, if the OS is not even running, then logically, neither are those specific tasks that could potentially create the kind of inconsistencies that turn out to be problematic after it will be already too late.

Shutting down Windows to boot straight into a bootable ISO that is stored on a Ventoy-formatted USB flash drive to make an additional new incremental image a few times per year doesn't take too much extra effort, even for someone who is lazy like me. In addition to the other advantages that I already mentioned in my first reply to this thread, what I get in return is the kind of verification that happens to be a lot less imperfect than this other kind of verification that primarily exists within people's rampant imagination.
 

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    11 Home
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    Laptop
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    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840×2160
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    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
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    Li-ion
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    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
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    Logitech K800
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    Logitech G402
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
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    FF
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    11 Home
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    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
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    Intel Iris Xe
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840×2160
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    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
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    Li-ion
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    Logitech G402
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    Logitech K800
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
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    FF
FFS - why are people not reading OPs post properly. OP is looking for an alternative as they percieve Acronis which they own is slow.

No point in endless posts saying use this or that WITHOUT discussing speed context AS WELL.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
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    laptop OLED screen
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    2880x1800 touchscreen
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    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
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    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
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    Built in UK keybd
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    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
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    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
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    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
it made it in less than 12 parsecs TBH..
 

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    11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
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    Logitech G402
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
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    11 Home
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    Laptop
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    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
I went to ChatGPT for an impartial opinion.

In Windows 11, can VSS lead to inconsistent data?


In Windows 11, Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) is designed to create consistent point-in-time copies (snapshots) of data, ensuring data integrity during backups. However, several factors can still lead to inconsistent data if not properly managed:
  1. Improper Application Handling: VSS requires applications to properly handle VSS events, such as quiescing (temporarily pausing) to ensure that all in-memory data is flushed to disk. If applications do not properly support VSS or do not handle these events correctly, it can lead to inconsistencies.
  2. Hardware Issues: Hardware problems, such as failing disks, faulty memory, or unstable power supplies, can cause data corruption, affecting the consistency of VSS snapshots.
  3. Configuration Errors: Misconfigurations in the VSS setup or incorrect backup procedures can result in incomplete or inconsistent snapshots.
  4. VSS Writer Failures: VSS writers are components that ensure data consistency for specific applications (like SQL Server, Exchange, etc.). If a VSS writer fails, it can lead to incomplete or corrupted snapshots.
  5. Resource Limitations: Insufficient system resources (like disk space, memory, or CPU) can cause VSS operations to fail or produce incomplete snapshots.
  6. Concurrency Issues: High levels of concurrent activity on the system (e.g., high disk I/O) during the snapshot process can sometimes lead to issues with the consistency of the data captured in the snapshot.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
@hdmi You evidently know a lot more than me. I wonder if you would try an experiment? Could you run a Macrium Reflect backup in Windows and then look for VSS errors? When I run "Vssadmin list writers" in an admin cmd window, it lists all the writers and any errors. Its it true that all the database apps you use are VSS aware?

I emailed Macrium and asked them about data inconsistencies.

Q Is it better to run MR by booting into an ISO or using an external bootable disk, or can we be certain that a backup within Windows, using VSS will be as perfect?


A Both will provide reliable backups which you can restore at a later point in time. The VSS is used to create a snapshot of the disk at the moment the backup starts, any changes to the data on the disk will not be included,

The Rescue media does not utilize the VSS whereas Reflect does.

data inconsistencies within the image will be near to none. On the off chance there is, this will be unnoticeable and your machine will continue to operate as usual.

When you reply, can I quote you on the forum?

Sure :)
Kind regards,

Joe A
 
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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
C'mon folks, this thread is getting a bit long in the tooth :-). @hdmi is correct, of course. If you want a really good example of applications that can get borked by not being VSS aware (to quote Kenny Rogers... "Know when to hold em, know when to fold 'em"), MicroSloth's OUTLOOK is a beauty. Even the author of both the OS and that app never made OUTLOOK VSS aware... as a result many users of VSS-based snapshots that were restored to their System found their Outlook.ost/pst files inconsistent and/or scrogged. It doesn't happen often, but it does happen.

Can we rest this thread... :rolleyes:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 10, Windows 11, Ubuntu Linux
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z2 G5 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    HP Model# 8751
    Memory
    32gB (DDR4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek basic audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD (Viewsonic)
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    (3) NvME SSDs - PCiE v3, (1) SATA3 SSD
@Froggie

Just unwatch it. I find it interesting.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Okay...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10, Windows 11, Ubuntu Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Z2 G5 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    HP Model# 8751
    Memory
    32gB (DDR4)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Realtek basic audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD (Viewsonic)
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    (3) NvME SSDs - PCiE v3, (1) SATA3 SSD
Ventoy warning:

Just a little warning here that I didn't think deserved a separate thread. I downloaded Acronis True Home in IMG (disk image format). Ventoy couldn't boot from that, it doesn't support disk images. Probably it would boot perfectly if the IMG file was put on a USB with Rufus, but I wanted to use Ventoy to have other boot options, not only Acronis. I then downloaded the ISO version which booted perfectly with Ventoy.
 

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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Remember you can put portable apps on Ventoy. Disk Genius ISO would not boot from Ventoy but once Ventoy has booted, you can run apps like Disk Genius
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
@hdmi You evidently know a lot more than me. I wonder if you would try an experiment? Could you run a Macrium Reflect backup in Windows and then look for VSS errors? When I run "Vssadmin list writers" in an admin cmd window, it lists all the writers and any errors.
Sorry, but I don't want to install Macrium Reflect.
Its it true that all the database apps you use are VSS aware?
No, I don't use the VSS for anything. A little over 3 years ago I tried to use it on an older dektop PC with Windows 10 to make a system backup. The PC's Windows system partition had about 150GB of data on it, and, the backup destination was an external USB 3.0 HDD, 3.5″ 7200rpm 8TB Seagate ST8000DM002 (old model). I went into another room and for a while I periodically came back to see if the backup was still running OK, which it was each time. So then I stopped coming back for a while, and when I finally did come back, it was displaying an error message to inform me that the backup had failed. Next, I quickly grabbed my bootable ISO of Acronis, and I almost missed my deadline, not because Acronis was slow, but because the VSS was botched. I managed to fix the issue some time after. But it took a while to get it fixed so, as a result I would have easily missed my deadline. Annoyances like this are yet another reason why I don't use Macrium Reflect nor want to waste my time with getting it installed on my laptop. It is what it is.
I emailed Macrium and asked them about data inconsistencies.

Q Is it better to run MR by booting into an ISO or using an external bootable disk, or can we be certain that a backup within Windows, using VSS will be as perfect?


A Both will provide reliable backups which you can restore at a later point in time. The VSS is used to create a snapshot of the disk at the moment the backup starts, any changes to the data on the disk will not be included,

The Rescue media does not utilize the VSS whereas Reflect does.

data inconsistencies within the image will be near to none. On the off chance there is, this will be unnoticeable and your machine will continue to operate as usual.

When you reply, can I quote you on the forum?

Sure :)
Kind regards,


Joe A
What did you expect? They risk losing customers if they tell you the whole side story about the potential consequence of data partially gone missing due to "any changes to the data on the disk will not be included". People don't want to discuss application-consistent snapshots because people are parrots who don't like to be reminded of the fact that an added risk does not magically go away by imagining that the added risk does not exist. It's like trying to explain to an Apple fanboi why Apple sucks...
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Ironically, I thought I would give Acronis a try. I do have a license for Acronis TI 2020 but I downloaded the latest version and it wouldn't run! It just hung at calculating disk size or something like that. I'd gone of Acronis years ago because a back or restore failed due to a "bad block" but Acronis support would not offer any solution and all the checks on the disk said it was not faulty.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Ventoy warning:

Just a little warning here that I didn't think deserved a separate thread. I downloaded Acronis True Home in IMG (disk image format). Ventoy couldn't boot from that, it doesn't support disk images. Probably it would boot perfectly if the IMG file was put on a USB with Rufus, but I wanted to use Ventoy to have other boot options, not only Acronis. I then downloaded the ISO version which booted perfectly with Ventoy.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Ironically, I thought I would give Acronis a try. I do have a license for Acronis TI 2020 but I downloaded the latest version and it wouldn't run! It just hung at calculating disk size or something like that. I'd gone of Acronis years ago because a back or restore failed due to a "bad block" but Acronis support would not offer any solution and all the checks on the disk said it was not faulty.
Can't you just use the Rescue Media Builder to create the bootable ISO file? Next, simply copy that ISO file to the Ventoy-formatted USB flash drive. Disable BitLocker and Secure Boot if necessary, change boot order to boot from the USB flash drive. You also might need to unplug your ethernet cable before you continue to boot into the ISO. This is because the bootable ISO of older versions of Acronis (older than Acronis True Image 2021 v25.8.1.39216 from March 30, 2021) immediately starts scanning the network causing the whole UI to stall/freeze when you try to proceed with your next step from the menu screens. The bootable ISO of Acronis True Image Home 2021 version 25.10.39287 (from January 27, 2022) is what I use, it's the latest version of True Image (True Image, i.e., not Cyber Protect Home).
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
@hdmi

OK, I'll try that.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Yes, I thought so since I read on their site that Ventoy supports IMG files (but they missed the little detail that it doesn't support all types). I tried unsuccessfuly to convert the IMG file to ISO using MagicISO, PowerISO and UltraISO. All of them can read and open the IMG file but not convert it to ISO for some reason. I just gave up and downloaded the ISO version of Acronis True Home. That worked provided I boot it in "normal mode" (first option on the list).

So, as far as I know, Acronis works flawlessly when booted from a dedicated USB flash drive (or CD-ROM) or from Ventoy. It doesn't work properly if loaded from Strelec WinPE, so from now on I use Ventoy to have both Acronis and Strelec on the same USB flash drive. Just for fun I also added Android-x86 (run Adnroid on your laptop!) and Ubuntu. All work OK.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
I had to turn secure boot off for Ventoy to boot off the USB, is that normal. I have the latest version. I see I have to enroll a key, will try that next.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
I had to turn secure boot off for Ventoy to boot off the USB, is that normal. I have the latest version. I see I have to enroll a key, will try that next.
Yeah, if either you can't or you don't want to enroll the key, then you have to disable Secure Boot to be able to choose the UEFI boot method to boot from the USB flash drive. Ventoy
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
For troubleshooting, backup/restore and Windows 11 installation all you need is a couple of USB flash drives with Ventoy installed and the appropriate ISOs. One USB in MBR for Legacy BIOS booting and one in GPT for UEFI booting. You can then copy additional drivers and utilities in each USB.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4

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