Is there a way to get to Safe Mode when you have a RAID?


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Is there a way to get to Safe Mode when you have a RAID?
 
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Windows 11 Pro

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Bob
    CPU
    AMD Threadripper 2950X
    Motherboard
    ASRock Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming ATX sTR4 Motherboard
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    G.SKILL TridentZ Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
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    2 x 1 TB M.2 on a RAID 0 for OS
    1 x 500 GB M.2 for my doc and other files
    6 x 500 GB Sata drive on a RAID 0 for my WIP drive (Work In Progress)
    1 x BuffaloNAS with 18 TB on a RAID 5
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Safe mode nothing to do with RAID setup.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
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    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
Your not seeing the problem.

When you hit F11 to get to Safe Mode menu, it can't see your RAID.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Bob
    CPU
    AMD Threadripper 2950X
    Motherboard
    ASRock Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming ATX sTR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    G.SKILL TridentZ Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER GAMING, 11G-P4-2489-KR, 11GB GDDR6, RGB LED
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 43" Smart Monitor -- Samsung 24" Smart Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 and 1080 x 1920
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1 TB M.2 on a RAID 0 for OS
    1 x 500 GB M.2 for my doc and other files
    6 x 500 GB Sata drive on a RAID 0 for my WIP drive (Work In Progress)
    1 x BuffaloNAS with 18 TB on a RAID 5
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower iRGB PLUS 1200 Platinum 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    Thermaltake Tower 900 ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Custom cooling with most parts from Thermaltake
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    Microsoft - Sculpt Desktop Ergonomic
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    Microsoft - Sculpt Desktop Ergonomic
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    400MB down 20MB up
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    Chrome
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    Malwarebytes
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    Pioneer BDR-211UBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
    Logitech Z906 500 W 5.1-Channel Speakers

    https://pcpartpicker.com/b/DThypg
Is there a way to get to Safe Mode when you have a RAID?



I would think it's the same as for non-RAID
Your not seeing the problem.

When you hit F11 to get to Safe Mode menu, it can't see your RAID.



Instead... go to Start > Run and type: msconfig
Then, on the Boot tab, choose: Safe Boot

I've never done RAID so I don't know if Safe Mode will see it.
Safe Mode may NOT load the RAID array/driver/voodoo, what ever.



On a side note... do we really need RAID with M.2 SSDs?
 

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    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3323 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
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    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
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    up to 2048 x 1536
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    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
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    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
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    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
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    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
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    300/300
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    Firefox 3.x ??
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    Symantec (Norton)
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    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Your not seeing the problem.

When you hit F11 to get to Safe Mode menu, it can't see your RAID.
The F8 key not F11 key use to give you option to boot into Safe Mode not any longer you have that option on with Windows 11 and Windows 10.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    Erica6
    Memory
    Micron Technology DDR4-3200 16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC671
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SyncMaster U28E590
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG MZVLQ1T0HALB-000H1
It may also depend on the type of RAID.
RAID 0 is striping, has different parts of a file on each drive and loss of one drive loses everything on both.
RAID 1 is mirroring, second drive is full image of first drive.
Removing a drive from either will break the booting process.
And there's other versions.
I use RAID 1 on my 2TB NAS drive, has 2 x 2TB drives in the case.
 

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
It may also depend on the type of RAID.
RAID 0 is striping, has different parts of a file on each drive and loss of one drive loses everything on both.
RAID 1 is mirroring, second drive is full image of first drive.
Removing a drive from either will break the booting process.
And there's other versions.
I use RAID 1 on my 2TB NAS drive, has 2 x 2TB drives in the case.
RAID5 RAID6 RAID 10 are the others mostly used
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Bob
    CPU
    AMD Threadripper 2950X
    Motherboard
    ASRock Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming ATX sTR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    G.SKILL TridentZ Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER GAMING, 11G-P4-2489-KR, 11GB GDDR6, RGB LED
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 43" Smart Monitor -- Samsung 24" Smart Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 and 1080 x 1920
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1 TB M.2 on a RAID 0 for OS
    1 x 500 GB M.2 for my doc and other files
    6 x 500 GB Sata drive on a RAID 0 for my WIP drive (Work In Progress)
    1 x BuffaloNAS with 18 TB on a RAID 5
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower iRGB PLUS 1200 Platinum 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    Thermaltake Tower 900 ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Custom cooling with most parts from Thermaltake
    Keyboard
    Microsoft - Sculpt Desktop Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Microsoft - Sculpt Desktop Ergonomic
    Internet Speed
    400MB down 20MB up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Pioneer BDR-211UBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
    Logitech Z906 500 W 5.1-Channel Speakers

    https://pcpartpicker.com/b/DThypg
The F8 key not F11 key use to give you option to boot into Safe Mode not any longer you have that option on with Windows 11 and Windows 10.
Sorry F8, been using F11 for boot menu.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Bob
    CPU
    AMD Threadripper 2950X
    Motherboard
    ASRock Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming ATX sTR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    G.SKILL TridentZ Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER GAMING, 11G-P4-2489-KR, 11GB GDDR6, RGB LED
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 43" Smart Monitor -- Samsung 24" Smart Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 and 1080 x 1920
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1 TB M.2 on a RAID 0 for OS
    1 x 500 GB M.2 for my doc and other files
    6 x 500 GB Sata drive on a RAID 0 for my WIP drive (Work In Progress)
    1 x BuffaloNAS with 18 TB on a RAID 5
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower iRGB PLUS 1200 Platinum 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    Thermaltake Tower 900 ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Custom cooling with most parts from Thermaltake
    Keyboard
    Microsoft - Sculpt Desktop Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Microsoft - Sculpt Desktop Ergonomic
    Internet Speed
    400MB down 20MB up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Pioneer BDR-211UBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
    Logitech Z906 500 W 5.1-Channel Speakers

    https://pcpartpicker.com/b/DThypg
I would think it's the same as for non-RAID




Instead... go to Start > Run and type: msconfig
Then, on the Boot tab, choose: Safe Boot

I've never done RAID so I don't know if Safe Mode will see it.
Safe Mode may NOT load the RAID array/driver/voodoo, what ever.



On a side note... do we really need RAID with M.2 SSDs?
It is not the same for RAID.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Bob
    CPU
    AMD Threadripper 2950X
    Motherboard
    ASRock Fatal1ty X399 Professional Gaming ATX sTR4 Motherboard
    Memory
    G.SKILL TridentZ Series 128GB (8 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
    Graphics Card(s)
    2 x EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA HYDRO COPPER GAMING, 11G-P4-2489-KR, 11GB GDDR6, RGB LED
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 43" Smart Monitor -- Samsung 24" Smart Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160 and 1080 x 1920
    Hard Drives
    2 x 1 TB M.2 on a RAID 0 for OS
    1 x 500 GB M.2 for my doc and other files
    6 x 500 GB Sata drive on a RAID 0 for my WIP drive (Work In Progress)
    1 x BuffaloNAS with 18 TB on a RAID 5
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower iRGB PLUS 1200 Platinum 1200 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    Thermaltake Tower 900 ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Custom cooling with most parts from Thermaltake
    Keyboard
    Microsoft - Sculpt Desktop Ergonomic
    Mouse
    Microsoft - Sculpt Desktop Ergonomic
    Internet Speed
    400MB down 20MB up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Pioneer BDR-211UBK Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer
    Logitech Z906 500 W 5.1-Channel Speakers

    https://pcpartpicker.com/b/DThypg

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