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Wisewiz · Dec 1, 2023

Since I HAVE recovery partitions, and since RE has always worked for me before, I think I'll try these instructions after the next MR update, including step 6, of course.

Bree · Dec 1, 2023

Ghot said:
I use PE cause I don't have a Recovery partition, or the files to create an RE stick.

The file required to create RE media is WinRE.wim. If you have a recovery partition and the recovery environment is enabled, then that's where it will be. If you want to delete the recovery partition (as some like to do to gain extra space) then you should disable the recovery environment first. This moves the WinRE.wim into C:\Windows\System32\Recovery where it is stored should you wish to re-enable the recovery environment.

The Rescue Media Builder searches both locations looking for WinRE.wim, so if you've lost yours by deleting the recovery partition, just put one in C:\Windows\System32\Recovery. If it finds more than one WinRE.wim then it uses the most recent one. If you've lost your WinRE.wim then you can extract a fresh copy from an install.wim or install.esd by opening it as an archive with 7-Zip File Manager.

SIW2 · Dec 1, 2023

You could just point it at any bootable wim file you have. The macrium pebuilder will insert the program files and the winpeshl.ini into the first image of the wim.

You could do it yourself with 7-zip gui.

cereberus · Dec 1, 2023

WinRe pros
Uses less storage space.
Optional - Can backup over wifi.
In my experience, better at picking up required drives.

WinRe Cons
Requires WinRe.wim (interestingly works even if disabled if it is "parked")

WinPE pros
Not many really other than works if no winre.wim.
Can provide better compatibility on older devices.
Sometimes older WinPe versions solve the dreaded low res issue (function of bioses).
Requires a lot more adk downloads.

Overall, I recommend using WinRe.wim, but reverting to WinPe if you get issues.

If you use WinPe, use latest version, but if you run into dreaded low res issue, you may need to use earlier version e.g. WinPE 5.

I would not use earlier than WinPE 5 as there could be some restrictions e.g. network handling.

Ghot · Dec 1, 2023

Look MA! It's the Windows RE gang.

I was happy, happy happy, when I got rid of the Recovery partition.
With backup software and the Rescue Media... you don't need it.

The Macrium bootable Rescue Media, even has a command prompt...

Wisewiz · Dec 1, 2023

Thank you all (Bree , Cereberus, SIW2, and others I may have missed). I'm going with the RE from now on, and if it doesn't work the first time, I'll use the method in my post 781 above. It works.

Ghot · Dec 1, 2023

Wisewiz said:
Thank you all (Bree , Cereberus, SIW2, and others I may have missed). I'm going with the RE from now on, and if it doesn't work the first time, I'll use the method in my post 781 above. It works.

RE should work fine.

@Bree

This moves the WinRE.wim into C:\Windows\System32\Recovery

I don't have that either. There's no WinRE.wim anywhere on my C:\ drive.
I'm a Master-Remover.

SIW2 · Dec 1, 2023

Is it completely absent or on another partition?

Ghot · Dec 1, 2023

SIW2 said:
Is it completely absent or on another partition?

It's completely gone. I removed it on purpose.

CountMike · Dec 2, 2023

Even after erasing everything from USB drive and redoing Rescue partition it still shows deleted directories, wonder where it's picking them up from ? I don't have MR RE partition on disk. It's just annoying as it shows them as error.

jimbo45 · Dec 2, 2023

CountMike said:
Even after erasing everything from USB drive and redoing Rescue partition it still shows deleted directories, wonder where it's picking them up from ? I don't have MR RE partition on disk. It's just annoying as it shows them as error.

How did you do the erase. if you just delete via standard methods only the entry in the disk directory is deleted (that's a sort of "Volume table of contents"). The actual data itself isn't deleted until something updates the data spaces. So the disk directory shows that the space is availble to be used but isn't actually overwritten until that area is needed.

You need IMO to use something like a secure erase program or physically simply force write x'00' in every data area on disk. That should kill any remaining info about data etc.

Cheers
jimbo

CountMike · Dec 2, 2023

jimbo45 said:
How did you do the erase. if you just delete via standard methods only the entry in the disk directory is deleted (that's a sort of "Volume table of contents"). The actual data itself isn't deleted until something updates the data spaces. So the disk directory shows that the space is avialble to be used but isn't actually overwritten until that area is needed.

You need IMO to use something like a secure erase program or physically simply force write x'00' in every data area on disk. That should kill any remaining info about data etc.

Cheers
jimbo

Deleted partitions with Mini Tool, not a single bit left on it alive. Made single partition formatted in Fat32, made rescue and than in other part new partition in NTFS. Must be something left in MR or system.

BamaInArk · Dec 2, 2023

And apparently looks like Macrium is updating the free version to 8.0.7783. However when attempting to download you get an HTTP error - 403. You can download the latest version with the offline downloader.

Wisewiz · Dec 2, 2023

Macrium Home users

I updated to the latest .7762 version. Due to some issues being reported on the Macrium Forums I was digging around my install. If I go to Help | About my Licensed To: shows as "N/A." My name is not displaying anymore. Unsure of when this changed. Support shows as "Expired" which I just...

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RFS · Dec 2, 2023

BamaInArk said:
And apparently looks like Macrium is updating the free version to 8.0.7783. However when attempting to download you get an HTTP error - 403. You can download the latest version with the offline downloader.

Now fixed.

kelper · Dec 2, 2023

I still can't boot into RE on my Win10 laptop. Will try again tomorrow with this latest update.

Wisewiz · Dec 2, 2023

kelper said:
I still can't boot into RE on my Win10 laptop. Will try again tomorrow with this latest update.

Have you tried the instructions from Macrium I posted in #781 above? I think if you format the stick as FAT32, insert it, and then open MR and go to the Create Rescue Media panel and check the top panel for the "OK," and then use the Ctrl + Build-button (with the stick inserted and the blue highlight ON the blue stick in that panel, not on the top or bottom choices), it'll work. Takes a short while. Then I just close MR, Restart, and use the Boot Menu key for my PC (F12, in my case) and pick the UEFI option for my stick. It does work, when lots of other tries have failed.

kelper · Dec 2, 2023

I'm not talking about an external drive. I like to make my laptop capable of booting into MR's RE from the Windows boot menu . It's worked for a year and only failed about three updates ago. Macrium support asks mebtobtry different PE versions which is pretty annoying as PE 10 works fine and I told them I only have a problem booting into RE.

Wisewiz · Dec 2, 2023

@kelper
If, in fact, you don't see this:

you need to click Advanced and select the Choose Base WIM tab and select RE and click OK. Then MR will do its thing and you'll have a new boot menu that'll let you boot from the Windows RE.

kelper · Dec 2, 2023

Wisewiz said:
@kelper
If, in fact, you don't see this:
View attachment 79820
you need to click Advanced and select the Choose Base WIM tab and select RE and click OK. Then MR will do its thing and you'll have a new boot menu that'll let you boot from the Windows RE.

Thanks. I know how to do the updates of the boot menu. It is already RE and I do not need to go through the advanced tab. The boot menu updates very quickly.

I've done this many times before without a problem.

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