Solved Latest Macrium Reflect X updates

Fabler2 · Oct 8, 2024

I'll stick with v8 until it no longer works. It's fast enough for me. I'll also be running Hasleo.

On a 167 GB backup,

Stigg · Oct 8, 2024

TraderGary said:
I updated my 4 pack 8.1 to VX. The subscription price was $49.99 USD for 4 licenses. I liked that for a subscription price that will never change and always be up to date.

Did you get 50% off the RRP on Annual Plan(s) for life when trading in a valid license(s)?

That doesn't mean that the price will never change. It means that 50% off the RRP will never change.

Stigg · Oct 8, 2024

Fabler2 said:
I'll stick with v8 until it no longer works. It's fast enough for me. I'll also be running Hasleo.

On a 167 GB backup,

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Same here. I don't see any reason to rush out and purchase X when 8 is working fine. I'll make a decision on whether to upgrade later.

TraderGary · Oct 9, 2024

Stigg said:
Did you get 50% off the RRP on Annual Plan(s) for life when trading in a valid license(s)?

Sure did, on all 4 licenses!

Stigg said:
That doesn't mean that the price will never change. It means that 50% off the RRP will never change.

I prefer to interpret the price my way! So far the price hasn't changed! :wink:

Stigg · Oct 9, 2024

I've been reading some comments below this video (sorted by newest first), and there are quite a few complaints about the subscription license model.

TraderGary · Oct 9, 2024

I have a number of subscriptions that I wouldn't be without. For me, if the value is there, I subscribe. I really don't care what others think.

BrianInEngland · Oct 9, 2024

My daily incremental backup of the system drive ran this morning without issues.

So far so good, I'm liking Macrium X

BrianInEngland · Oct 9, 2024

TraderGary said:
I have a number of subscriptions that I wouldn't be without. For me, if the value is there, I subscribe. I really don't care what others think.

Totally agree. I have an annual sub for Nero software and now Macrium.
Macrium is one application I can't do without

I stopped subscribing to TV streaming ages ago when the prices went up. Netflix and Disney are not worth the money. I have Prime for the delivery service and pay for ad-free on Prime Video

Like you say, value is subjective. Macrium cost me the price of a Domino's pizza! £19 per year is a massive £1.58 per month

pietcorus2 · Oct 9, 2024

" Not worth the money in my opinion. " ..............indeed , not very cheap , for a few seconds faster !

kelper · Oct 9, 2024

Stigg said:
Same here. I don't see any reason to rush out and purchase X when 8 is working fine. I'll make a decision on whether to upgrade later.

Then set a date in your calendar as the upgrade offers expire in six months!

Stigg · Oct 9, 2024

kelper said:
Then set a date in your calendar as the upgrade offers expire in six months!

Yes. In the end, it's whatever floats your boat.
We all have to make decisions in our lives. This is just another one. I have made mine.

Stigg · Oct 9, 2024

So, what's the reason to rush to an annual license subscription when you already have a perpetual license?

I think it was mentioned in a previous post somewhere, but I can't find it right now.

thecaretaker · Oct 9, 2024

Well, I bit the bullet and upgraded my single licence in exchange for 50% off lifetime annual licence. Cost me £18.49. That works out at £1.55 a month. So far, I like Macrium Reflect X. The full backup saves me around 10 seconds, It used to take approx 1 minute 14 seconds and now is taking 1m 04 seconds. But the restore only took 15 seconds where it used to take 4 minutes or so. Admittedly, that was restoring a backup I had just made, so probably didn't have much to change. It is still very familiar to version 8.1 and the upgrade was very smooth and painless.

Bree · Oct 9, 2024

pietcorus2 said:
" Not worth the money in my opinion. " ..............indeed , not very cheap , for a few seconds faster !

For me and my one machine with a seriously large image Reflect X is 20 minutes faster than v8. See my post #59.

kelper · Oct 9, 2024

Bree said:
As is my normal practice, I make a full image of my machines each Patch Tuesday after updating/cleaning up. This Patch Tuesday I backed up one of my machines twice, once with Reflect v8, then again after upgrading to Reflect X. This was my Hyper-V host machine, with all the VMs I have on it there are some 334GB to image. Despite being my fastest machine, it is also the slowest to image.

The source disk is a NVMe KIOXIA 512GB.
The same destination disk was used for both images, a TOSHIBA MQ01ABD100 external USB 3.0 HDD.
The Reflect settings were the same both times, maximum compression and verification was selected.

Backup Definition File: C:\Users\Owner\Documents\Reflect\External Backup.xml
Auto Verify: Y
Verify File System: Y
Maximum File Size: Automatic
Compression: High
Password: N
Intelligent Copy: Y
Power Saving: N
Email On Success: N
Email On Warning: N
Email On Failure: N
Total Selected: 333.91 GB
Comment: 23H2 W11 Pro updated to 22631.4317 (KB5044285) 08 Oct 2024-10

The Reflect X image and verification was 20 minutes faster and some 12GB smaller than that of Reflect v8. Not the 2x speed increase Macrium have claimed, but then verification was a significant part of both times. I don't really see how verification could be made any faster - it has to read the whole of the image file from the external HDD to calculate the hash sums it uses to verify the backup.

EDIT: I have just ran verification on its own. It took 25 minutes. So for Reflect X that make the time just for making the image 26 minutes, and for Reflect v8 with some 9% more to verify would have been a little over 27 minutes, so its imaging would have been about 43 minutes. That makes Reflect X about 1.7 times faster for imaging.

I would be interested in a comparison with the default compression setting. And do you think a USB 3.1 SSD would be a lot quicker?

SeventhSon · Oct 9, 2024

Hi everyone. First time poster, long time lurker. I've been following the drama of Reflect going subscription-only for a while and yesterday I gave it a try (on a VM). Restore failed.

Image verifies successfully though. And Reflect 8 works as expected on the exact same system. Mmmm.

Bree · Oct 9, 2024

kelper said:
I would be interested in a comparison with the default compression setting.

You do realise that with an image this large it will take an hour of my time to get the results? I'll see what I can do.....

kelper said:
And do you think a USB 3.1 SSD would be a lot quicker?

Yes, an external SSD should be faster, in particular for the verification pass. I would expect the imaging to be faster too, maybe not by so much. It really depends on which is the limiting factor for imaging speed, the compression and processing, or writing to the external drive. That's very much machine-specific, your Pentium Silver N6000 has a benchmark about half that of my i7-10610U.

kelper · Oct 9, 2024

Thanks. I saw write speeds close to 2 Gb/s with X. So, if you turn off verification it should only take 22 minutes!

The lower compression should shorten your backup.

TraderGary · Oct 9, 2024

With X I'm seeing speeds of 10 to 12.5 Gb/s. I'm imaging my C: drive that is currently 301GB. I'm writing to a Samsung T9 4TB SSD on a Thunderbolt 4 port. My image is averaging 5 minutes to make. My PC specs are in "My Computer" below. My compression is Medium (recommended).

kelper · Oct 9, 2024

TraderGary said:
With X I'm seeing speeds of 10 to 12.5 Gb/s. I'm imaging my C: drive that is currently 301GB. I'm writing to a Samsung T9 4TB SSD on a Thunderbolt 4 port. My image is averaging 5 minutes to make. My PC specs are in "My Computer" below. My compression is Medium (recommended).

So, how does it compare to v8?

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