My system crashes with memory shortage even when there are 4GB is available


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My system crashes due to memory shortage even though there is available memory.

I have 16 GB RAM, and the pagefile is disbled. I do not have a discrete video card.

So, when the Task Manager and System Settings report 4 GB memory "availale" (3.5 GB cached and 500 MB free), and I open a new tab in a browser, crashes either the tab, browser or DWM, kicking me to the logon screen. This happens in all other software as well.

I understand that full 16GB should not be available because part of the memory is used for video memory. Still, I wonder, why the Task Manager and Settings report available memory?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
Don't disable the pagefile, let Windows manage that.
Performance options > Advanced tab > Programs.
Change... tick top box for Auto manage.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
Don't disable the pagefile, let Windows manage that.
Performance options > Advanced tab > Programs.
Change... tick top box for Auto manage.
My prevuous computer had only 4 GB memory and a small pagefile of 1 GB, and I did not experience memory shortages in daily tasks. It was a few months ago, under the same OS.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
I've read that with Windows 11 you should always have a pagefile set no matter how much RAM you have which in my case is 32GB. It is best to just let Windows dynamically manage the page file if you don't want to have issues. I'm guessing you'll no longer have an issue if you enable the pagefile.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware M17 R3
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10750H (Comet Lake)
    Motherboard
    Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 and Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3281-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Micron 2300 NVMe 1TB
    PC SN530 NVMe WDC 512GB
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    60mbps
    Browser
    Vivaldi and Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 3
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-1065G7 (Ice Lake)
    Motherboard
    Microsoft Corp.
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic Speakers with Dolby Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.5” PixelSense Touchscreen Display
    Screen Resolution
    2256x1504
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba Memory 512GB
    Mouse
    Surface Arc Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60 mbps
    Browser
    Vivaldi and Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
A little more info;
A Page File acts as an overflow for your system memory (RAM) when you have too many applications running at one time. However, it is constantly being used by Windows to store temporary data regardless of how much RAM you have installed. Having no Page File or mismanaging the size of the Page File can lead to performance issues and crashes. Furthermore, a Page File is required by many applications, including our own games.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware M17 R3
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10750H (Comet Lake)
    Motherboard
    Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 and Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3281-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Micron 2300 NVMe 1TB
    PC SN530 NVMe WDC 512GB
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    60mbps
    Browser
    Vivaldi and Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 3
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-1065G7 (Ice Lake)
    Motherboard
    Microsoft Corp.
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic Speakers with Dolby Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.5” PixelSense Touchscreen Display
    Screen Resolution
    2256x1504
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba Memory 512GB
    Mouse
    Surface Arc Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60 mbps
    Browser
    Vivaldi and Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
I've read that with Windows 11 you should always have a pagefile set no matter how much RAM you have which in my case is 32GB. It is best to just let Windows dynamically manage the page file if you don't want to have issues. I'm guessing you'll no longer have an issue if you enable the pagefile.
When I used a mechanical hard drive, enabling the pagefile dramatically reduced the performance, so I always had it disabled (even though I had less memory then, only 2-4 GB), and had no issues. Now I have SSD and more memory, and I think even on SSD it should reduce performance, even if not that much as on a hard drive.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
When I used a mechanical hard drive, enabling the pagefile dramatically reduced the performance, so I always had it disabled (even though I had less memory then, only 2-4 GB), and had no issues. Now I have SSD and more memory, and I think even on SSD it should reduce performance, even if not that much as on a hard drive.
I think you'll get better performance and more importantly no BSOD with it enabled. Give it a try for a while as I think you'll prefer having it enabled.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware M17 R3
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10750H (Comet Lake)
    Motherboard
    Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 and Intel UHD Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3281-CG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17"
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Micron 2300 NVMe 1TB
    PC SN530 NVMe WDC 512GB
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    60mbps
    Browser
    Vivaldi and Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft Surface Laptop 3
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-1065G7 (Ice Lake)
    Motherboard
    Microsoft Corp.
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics
    Sound Card
    Omnisonic Speakers with Dolby Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.5” PixelSense Touchscreen Display
    Screen Resolution
    2256x1504
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba Memory 512GB
    Mouse
    Surface Arc Mouse
    Internet Speed
    60 mbps
    Browser
    Vivaldi and Firefox
    Antivirus
    MS Defender and Malwarebytes Free
I think you'll get better performance and more importantly no BSOD with it enabled. Give it a try for a while as I think you'll prefer having it enabled.
I xefinitely had MUCH worse performance with it enabled on a mechanical hard drive.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11

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