Solved Need some advice


Venom_ARC said:
The main reason I am replacing the F15 is because it keeps tripping my house breakers, I've had it for a week and 4 times multiple outlets and 2 different breakers. I'm watch the current draw and I never see more that 1.9 amps. My meter doesn't show spikes.
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Since it's a laptop, most likely culprit is charger, it's primary side so I would try changing that or is it a ploy to convince wife you need a new laptop or PC.
 

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I ended up
CountMike said:
Since it's a laptop, most likely culprit is charger, it's primary side so I would try changing that or is it a ploy to convince wife you need a new laptop or PC.
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I just returned it, I got a the alienware M16 R2, for now. I do mis the Asus though.
 

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Venom_ARC said:
I ended up

I just returned it, I got a the alienware M16 R2, for now. I do mis the Asus though.
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Did this solve your problem with the breakers tripping? I hope it did. If it did, I still think the problem was with the power adapter and not the laptop.
 

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It hasn't blown since using the Alienware. The only issue with the Alienware was right out of the box the AWCC would fail to run. I have the Asus F15 coming again it should be here Monday. I'm not sure which one I will keep.
 

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I just got the asus and it blew the breaker just setting it up. I wasn't even playing a game. I used the alienware all week with no issues.
 

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So second asus did blow my breaker.
 

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look at the outlet, it maybe old/bad. the breaker could be bad too. You might need to get a meter, with a divider addon to check current draw. I have a 20ft sliding gate with motor that has no issues with a 15 amp.
 

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What are requirements on the adapter, Watts and Amperes ? Since W=A*V and taking for granted it's 110v it would take over 1650W to trip a 15A breaker. That's power of a space heater !!
 

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    Custom Raidmax
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    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
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It doesn't seem to matter what outlet and what breaker; I have the breaker it is blowing now is a 20 amp breaker. Its a 240 watt PSU same as the alienware.
 

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Venom_ARC said:
It doesn't seem to matter what outlet and what breaker; I have the breaker it is blowing now is a 20 amp breaker. Its a 240 watt PSU same as the alienware.
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Something's really badly off, at full 240W its 2.2A it draws thru breaker. Are you sure you didn't get same laptop with same (bad) adapter back ?
 

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Venom_ARC said:
It doesn't seem to matter what outlet and what breaker; I have the breaker it is blowing now is a 20 amp breaker. Its a 240 watt PSU same as the alienware.
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You would need to have something like a space heater plugged in for the extra draw of the computer to trip a breaker due to overload. Given that you've tested with different circuits, that's seems highly unlikely.

Therefore, it makes more sense to me that you have a newer house (or a newish renovation) and your breakers are touchy AFCI breakers. In my experience, AC fans, like your range hood, bath exhaust fans, and standalone room fans, frequently cause nuisance trips with AFCI breakers. I've never had an issue with PC power supplies and AFCI breakers, but let's at least eliminate that as a possibility.

So, do you have AFCI breakers?
 

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CountMike said:
Something's really badly off, at full 240W its 2.2A it draws thru breaker. Are you sure you didn't get same laptop with same (bad) adapter back ?
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I'm pretty sure its a new device.
 

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    GL553VE
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    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050ti
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    PNY M.2 1TB, storage 870 evo 1TB
LesFerch said:
You would need to have something like a space heater plugged in for the extra draw of the computer to trip a breaker due to overload. Given that you've tested with different circuits, that's seems highly unlikely.

Therefore, it makes more sense to me that you have a newer house (or a newish renovation) and your breakers are touchy AFCI breakers. In my experience, AC fans, like your range hood, bath exhaust fans, and standalone room fans, frequently cause nuisance trips with AFCI breakers. I've never had an issue with PC power supplies and AFCI breakers, but let's at least eliminate that as a possibility.

So, do you have AFCI breakers?
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They are AFCI breakers, at least the 3 have tripped.
 

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    Laptop
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    i7-7700HQ
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    GL553VE
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    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050ti
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    PNY M.2 1TB, storage 870 evo 1TB
My whole panel is filled with them, the only thing that is on a regular breaker is the furnace.
 

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    Windows 11
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Venom_ARC said:
My whole panel is filled with them, the only thing that is on a regular breaker is the furnace.
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Yup, that's the new normal and it's crazy expensive for those AFCI breakers. The irony is that your newly wired house is much less likely to have an arc fault than an many older homes. Not that it can't happen. Even pros sometimes leave something loose that causes an arc.

It seems the Asus power adapter causes a waveform that your AFCI breakers see as a potential arc, so it trips. Putting a UPS between the Asus power adapter and the wall may help. Swapping out your AFCI breakers for a newer or different model may help, but that's an expensive proposition (especially if you're hiring an electrician to do the work). Certainly, swapping out your AFCI breakers for regular breakers will solve the problem, but I can't really advise doing that (potential implications in regards to safety, C of O, resale inspection, and so forth). I have swapped out my nuisance tripping AFCI breaker for a regular breaker on the range hood fan circuit, but I've not had a reason to swap them elsewhere.
 

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    Windows 10/11
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LesFerch said:
Yup, that's the new normal and it's crazy expensive for those AFCI breakers. The irony is that your newly wired house is much less likely to have an arc fault than an many older homes. Not that it can't happen. Even pros sometimes leave something loose that causes an arc.

It seems the Asus power adapter causes a waveform that your AFCI breakers see as a potential arc, so it trips. Putting a UPS between the Asus power adapter and the wall may help. Swapping out your AFCI breakers for a newer or different model may help, but that's an expensive proposition (especially if you're hiring an electrician to do the work). Certainly, swapping out your AFCI breakers for regular breakers will solve the problem, but I can't really advise doing that (potential implications in regards to safety, C of O, resale inspection, and so forth). I have swapped out my nuisance tripping AFCI breaker for a regular breaker on the range hood fan circuit, but I've not had a reason to swap them elsewhere.
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I'm heading to walmart now for a UPS
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus FX53V
    CPU
    i7-7700HQ
    Motherboard
    GL553VE
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050ti
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    PNY M.2 1TB, storage 870 evo 1TB
Venom_ARC said:
I'm heading to walmart now for a UPS
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Keep your receipt. There's no guarantee it will help. If the UPS worked by always powering the device via its battery, I would be more confident, but my understanding is that it's typically a pass-through until the power goes out. But I sure hope it solves the problem for you. Fingers crossed.
 

My Computer

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    Windows 10/11
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    Laptop
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    Acer
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