New build need help with AMD CPU

FirasKing Air said:

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I think this ASRock will do any thoughts?
Thank you

ASRock X670E Steel Legend Support AMD AM5 RYZEN 7000 Series Processors Motherboard Amazon.com

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OK, as far as I know.

Use the "Raphael" QVL for RAM. (I had to look that up. "Raphael" is the 7000 series.)

I've usually preferred Asus boards. Their quality may not be better; I just like the way their BIOS settings are arranged. My Gigabyte board is especially poor in that regard.

@Scannerman
Thank you so much for your advice much appreciated
I also leaning in that Direction, I was thinking of going with any nice board with a good clear BIOS and stick with DDR4
EVERYTHING you wrote in your post makes perfect sense. I will go back and search for a new mobo DDR 4 and AMD CPU

Any recommendations is much appreciated

Thank you

bobkn said:

OK, as far as I know.

Use the "Raphael" QVL for RAM. (I had to look that up. "Raphael" is the 7000 series.)

I've usually preferred Asus boards. Their quality may not be better; I just like the way their BIOS settings are arranged. My Gigabyte board is especially poor in that regard.

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I'm like that if I can't understand what is going on in BIOS I'm lost and can't do anything. Never had Gigabyte mobo been with Asus for a while
I will look around and see

Thank you

FirasKing Air said:

I'm like that if I can't understand what is going on in BIOS I'm lost and can't do anything. Never had Gigabyte mobo been with Asus for a while
I will look around and see

Thank you

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Four of my household PCs are builds using ASUS UEFI (BIOS). Another four are using GIGABYTE system boards. I also have four using legacy BIOS and ironically two of my older daughters prefer those PCs. Admittedly GIGABYTE did leave a bit to be desired in their early UEFI but that has most certainly changed considerably as this company actually does have a reputation for being proactive regarding feedback from its end users. If for any reason I were to purchase a new system board today I would seriously look into GIGABYTE. My former ASUS fanaticism ended nearly five years ago. This is not to say that ASUS no longer manufactures quality system boards. As I stated previously, every manufacturer makes garbage. Now and then you might come across a solid and dependable board that suits your every need and then some. Sadly, when this happens that product tends to get phased out. A good example of this is the ASUS Sabertooth series that once upon a time came with a 5 year warranty. This was a TUF series board that utilized top quality components and was built to last. Well, that 5 year warranty was later reduced to a 3 year warranty and the quality of the boards did not nearly match that of their predecessors. That's business.

If you like videos from Jay on JayZTwoCents check out what he has to say about ASUS.


Building your own PC is easy. Building your own PC exceptionally well is a project. I wouldn't begrudge anyone for taking two years to do all the research, cross comparing, slowly purchasing components for the build over time (case, drives, cooler, fans, memory etc.) to build a solid and very dependable PC. I've done it and I'm glad for it. Once again it all boils down to user preference. I'm obliged to say that I still prefer the ASUS layout in the UEFI but that is likely because I'm very familiar with it. If money were no object I'd do all that I could to get more acquainted with the new AORUS line of system boards. But that's me and I'm quite happy with what I have. By all means feel free to take a peek at what the competition can offer: Motherboard - GIGABYTE Canada

*ALSO* There are many good walk through videos on YouTube explaining UEFI/BIOS and what each setting is for etc. If you are not familiar with using the UEFI I highly recommend watching some of them so that you can get the general idea. Learning how to access and use your UEFI/BIOS is not an option for those who desire to build their own PC and use it effectively. I wish there were such an abundance of 'how to videos' available back in my day when I first started building. Even over clocking is so much easier than it used to be. Anyway I hope this helps.

This is a very nice board and with my price range

GIGABYTE X670 AORUS Elite AX (AM5/ LGA 1718/ AMD/ X670/ ATX/ 5 Year Warranty/ DDR5/ Quad M.2/ PCIe 5.0/ USB 3.2 Gen2X2 Type-C/AMD WiFi 6E/ 2.5GbE LAN/Q-Flash Plus/M.2 EZ-Latch/Gaming Motherboard) https://a.co/d/cBmmgDF

The BIOS is very EZ to understand and to work with. Reviews are also solid
I never had a gigabyte mobo maybe it's time for me to check them out.

And I did my research and found the right DDR5 memory.
Any advice, thoughts are welcome
Thank you

And I get 2 games with this purchase
What else can I ask for
:)

I took a look at the reviews and it seems like a pretty safe purchase. The manufacturer generally won't offer a 5 year warranty on a motherboard unless they expect it to last that long or longer. I have a Sabertooth board here that has easily surpassed 10 years and is being used 24/7 practically all year round for years. On Newegg it looks as though some folks got a bad batch because after that the reviews turn very positive. I was looking for any mention of a double BIOS. This used to be a very handy feature for over clockers as you could pre-set a safe primary to fall back to if your settings failed WITHOUT having to reset the entire BIOS to default settings. Alas, I didn't see this advertised. It was a feature that used to be pretty much exclusive to GIGABYTE boards.

I did notice the frequent remarks about the improvement to the UEFI/BIOS. I've learned from several sources that this was something GIGABYTE did recently because they do listen to client feedback. Even Buildzoid was impressed with this and he is not easy to please. If you're a hard core gamer who wants to get into the nuts and bolts on system builds I recommend watching Buildzoid videos. The lad is sharp and if you can put up with his ramblings you'll discover that his videos are full of gems. Buildzoid also knows his RAM. This is where I also learned about getting SAMSUNG B Die RAM at an affordable price via TEAM GROUP. Probably the best RAM I ever owned alongside my Corsair DOMINATOR Platinum RAM (also using Samsung B die) that I'm currently using to type this. To be fair, times have changed and these newer boards probably don't even need B die RAM anymore.

If you should happen to purchase this motherboard I highly advise making certain that you have the latest BIOS installed once you get your system up and running. If you have never flashed a BIOS before then please, please, please watch some videos on the subject before attempting to do so. Once again, flashing the BIOS is much more easy these days than it used to be but it is still possible to mess up. @FirasKing Air you seem very hungry for knowledge and this reminds me of a time (25 years ago) when I shared that hunger. Go slow. Take your time. If you don't rush things you will eventually get your dream machine put together.

There are people here who are light years ahead of me in knowledge and experience so you have come to the right place. Keep us posted. :)

FirasKing Air said:

I'm like that if I can't understand what is going on in BIOS I'm lost and can't do anything. Never had Gigabyte mobo been with Asus for a while
I will look around and see

Thank you

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You may have misread my post.

The BIOS setting layout for my Gigabyte board is bad.

I don't think I have ever had a personal machine suffer from a failed mobo. I've got old Athlon 64 machines hanging around that still work, I've got my 2009 Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 build that still runs. Guess I've been quite lucky with my mobo's. So, I never really concern myself with teh warranty on them.

I almost always use Asus these days, but I have used Gigabtye as well in the past without issue. On my latest AMD builds, I have 2 running on the TUF Gaming X570 board, and my AMD is running an a Rog Strix X570-e Gaming board....which happens to be the nicest board I have ever used. I usually try to keep my mobos under $200

bobkn said:

You may have misread my post.

The BIOS setting layout for my Gigabyte board is bad.

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I don't know what mobo you have. But the one I picked out from Gigabyte has a very nice Ez BIOS
I have been watching YouTube all day

FirasKing Air said:

I don't know what mobo you have. But the one I picked out from Gigabyte has a very nice Ez BIOS
I have been watching YouTube all day

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"My Computer" system 1.

I've had to fight with it to get Secure Boot enabled. It involved toggling some settings off, then back on. I've had to do it a couple of times, as it didn't stay enabled through a BIOS update. (Even though the BIOS settings remained the same.) Not what I'd call brilliant BIOS design.

It may be inappropriate to generalize from that to more mainstream products.

Any MB should work. Playing with BIOS settings isn't a daily activity for most of us.

Hi yo OP, here is good site to compare cpu vs. gpu match via bottleneck calculator

I suppose I can't really refer to myself as a "former" system builder as building PCs pretty much gets into my blood and stays there. I enjoy helping others build and I still do a bit of re-building and refurbishing. I wish I could say that I've never had a bad system board purchased from a retailer but it has happened to me twice and in both cases ASUS was happy to replace it at no extra charge. Stuff happens, in shipping, in manufacturing, and distribution. I stopped counting how many systems I've built over a decade ago. If only two were bad I'd say that's pretty good odds of not getting a bad board. The only reason I think they were both from ASUS is because there was a time when that is all I would purchase. I noticed that around 2012 clients became more computer savvy and would specifically ask for a particular brand. Some prefer MSI, some prefer GIGABYTE, some prefer ASUS. The customer is always right. Well, sort of . . . I would still read reviews and if I felt I had cause for concern I would let my client know in advance before building it for them. Some would still be hung up on a brand name so they would get the brand they wanted even if they had to pay more for it.

I don't build brand new PCs for people anymore. There isn't a whole lot of money in it and methinks the demand for custom built PCs is waning. My location is such that much of the oilfield workers would find themselves in "hurry up and wait" situations and over the winter they would spend their time gaming while waiting for that call. This is where I would come into the picture as many of them would want me to build them a gaming rig. The slump in the industry has had a big impact on the demand in my area, but I'm fine with this as my eyes are getting dimmer and building PCs is getting more demanding given my condition. It has become more of a hobby for me these days.

I do like helping young people build PCs and when they familiarize themselves with what goes into their PC they will have a better understanding of what is going on with their software as well. A little extra knowledge of hardware could make all the difference between getting that coveted job even if it is not completely computer related. My wife demonstrated this very thing at an oilfield laboratory when one of the PCs was acting up and she remembered something I said about "re-seating'" the PCIe card. That little extra bit of knowledge saved the lab thousands of dollars that day. As far as her boss is concerned my wife is indispensable now.

Building a PC can be a lot of fun but it isn't everyone's cup of tea. Still, it is a skill well worth developing IMO and one never knows where it could lead. My weak point is software but I'm in great company here because so many awesome people are in this forum and many of them will bend over backwards to help. Some of them seem to have unlimited patience and I seriously don't know how they do it but I'm grateful for the help. Anyway, there it is.

pparks1 said:

I don't think I have ever had a personal machine suffer from a failed mobo.

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I've been building PCs since 1985. In those years I have had only two board failures. One of those failures was due to the faulty capacitor "problem" that plagued every electronic company in the world (even NASA got hit).

Not sure what component failed on the second board but it also took out the video card.

gewb said:

I've been building PCs since 1985. In those years I have had only two board failures. One of those failures was due to the faulty capacitor "problem" that plagued every electronic company in the world (even NASA got hit).

Not sure what component failed on the second board but it also took out the video card.

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I've only had one failure, ever. It was my most recent build. A USB controller failed after a week or two.

It replacement (exact same make, model, and revision) has had no issues. (Touch wood.)

Magnus7 said:

Hi yo OP, here is good site to compare cpu vs. gpu match via bottleneck calculator

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@Magnus7 thank you for the link
Here is what I got

Mine is fine too. (A little old, but fine.)

Scannerman said:

Mine is fine too. (A little old, but fine.)

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Cool

So here's my Final Build before I make complete order

Any thoughts Advice Recommendations
Are more than Welcome