New Version of ExplorerPatcher

kgarrett67 · Feb 28, 2023

@LesFerch, I know most everything in StartAllBack is self explanatory, but do you know of any documentation for the app? I can't seem to find any on the website. Thanks.

LesFerch · Feb 28, 2023

kgarrett67 said:
@LesFerch, I know most everything in StartAllBack is self explanatory, but do you know of any documentation for the app? I can't seem to find any on the website. Thanks.

None that I'm aware of.

safron · Feb 28, 2023

Be careful everyone. Not sure if this is the best place for this post, but FYI, I came across this in Bleeping Computer: Windows 11 KB5022913 causes boot issues if using UI customization apps

Microsoft specifically calls out ExplorerPatcher and StartAllBlack as causing conflicts with KB5022913 February 2023 non-security preview release.

LesFerch · Feb 28, 2023

safron said:
Be careful everyone. Not sure if this is the best place for this post, but FYI, I came across this in Bleeping Computer: Windows 11 KB5022913 causes boot issues if using UI customization apps

Microsoft specifically calls out ExplorerPatcher and StartAllBlack as causing conflicts with KB5022913 February 2023 non-security preview release.

I can confirm that ExplorerPatcher causes the boot loop, as described in that article, but I had no problem with StartAllBack. The article indicates that the issue is with versions prior to 3.5.6. I tested version 3.6.1.

kgarrett67 · Feb 28, 2023

safron said:
Be careful everyone. Not sure if this is the best place for this post, but FYI, I came across this in Bleeping Computer: Windows 11 KB5022913 causes boot issues if using UI customization apps

Microsoft specifically calls out ExplorerPatcher and StartAllBlack as causing conflicts with KB5022913 February 2023 non-security preview release.

I guess I dodged a bullet here. I rebooted my system and it came back up without any noticeable issues.

hpmoon · Mar 1, 2023

LesFerch said:
I can confirm that ExplorerPatcher causes the boot loop, as described in that article, but I had no problem with StartAllBack. The article indicates that the issue is with versions prior to 3.5.6. I tested version 3.6.1.

My boot loop is simply arriving at the desktop and file explorer never loading, with a blinking screen.

Really annoyed by ExplorerPatcher's developer totally abandoning support and banning (emotionally) all interactions at Github such as bug reports like this, just because not enough people read his precious README demanding minutiae a la:

Also annoyed that StartAllBack is the only active alternative but demands money (sent to Russia no less). Anything else out there? It's notable that Microsoft itself only mentions these two culprits.

aweed · Mar 1, 2023

I'd been having an issue on Windows Insider updates since December where I'd get Black Screen of Deaths and have to uninstall the update or go back to a restore point. I saw something last week about a similar StartAllBack issue so I uninstalled EP before performing the update. It went fine and Windows booted up OK after. I reinstalled EP then and have not had a problem. I'm not sure if the same procedure might work with the boot loops?

Hopefully, someone forks EP and we can get active development again.

Stigg · Mar 1, 2023

New Version of ExplorerPatcher

From what I understand reading this, ExplorerPatcher uses Windows own Start menu. So Microsoft must've broken something, since it is an unsupported menu it probably won't be fixed. I checked Start11, but their menu doesn't have Live tiles (and since they've never mentioned they'll add it I...

www.elevenforum.com

safron · Mar 1, 2023

now they're including Start11: Microsoft: ExplorerPatcher, StartAllBack, Start11 break on Windows 11 Moment 2 (KB5022913)

Johnboy200 · Mar 1, 2023

Valinet did a good job and my thanks go out to him, so RIP Explore patcher.
I only really used it to get the Toolbars back, now stuck with the crap Taskbar but using pinned folders on it which is a get around but not as good as having Toolbars.

You would think if as it would seem Microsofts intention was to wreck any customisation then they would realise that W11 doesn't offer the functionality that people had and still want now.

hdmi · Mar 1, 2023

I got ExplorerPatcher with the Windows 10 taskbar working again on 22621.1344. If explorer has crashed, hit Ctrl + Shift + Esc and choose Run new task, paste rundll32.exe %windir%\dxgi.dll,ZZGUI and hit Enter to bring up the ExplorerPatcher settings window. In it, go to Taskbar, set it to use the Windows 11 taskbar and click on restart explorer to get back your desktop and taskbar. Don't try to right-click on the Windows 11 taskbar or it will crash again. Finally, either you can use Winearo Tweaker or you can use the manual method to bring back the Windows 10 taskbar:

Batch:

reg add HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell\Update\Packages /f /v UndockingDisabled /t REG_DWORD /d 1

Don't forget to sign out and back in for changes to take effect. Finally, either
explorer shell:::{05d7b0f4-2121-4eff-bf6b-ed3f69b894d9} \SystemIcons,,0 or rundll32.exe %windir%\dxgi.dll,ZZGUI again to Customize system icons in the notification area.

ExplorerPatcher is dead. Long live ExplorerPatcher!

Edwin · Mar 1, 2023

Just for info...
I'm on Insider 25300,
With StartAllBack, I had weird issues with v3.5.5 and 3.5.6, then I had weirder issues with v3.6 and 3.6.1...,
so, I stuck with 3.5.7 and everything is stable!

bob3d · Mar 1, 2023

I tried Explorer Patcher on my Windows 11 Virtual Machine and what a mistake. It kept blanking out my screen and reviving it over and over again. I had fortunately just made a full system backup just hours prior to my trying Explorer Patcher out, so I restored my system from that backup and all is now well. I am never trying Explorer Patcher again.

Neijek · Mar 1, 2023

Is there no chance for Explorer Patcher to be updated by the developer at all ? I got so used to how well a proper start menu can work for my day to day

OAT · Mar 1, 2023

Is there no chance for Explorer Patcher to be updated by the developer at all ? I got so used to how well a proper start menu can work for my day to day

Seriously doubtful after MS' announcement.

Microsoft officially recommends avoiding apps that restore classic features in Windows 11

Citing compatibility issues, Microsoft now officially recommends you to avoid StartAllBack and ExplorerPatcher. These two tools are famous for restoring

winaero.com

But you can check here for any activity:

GitHub - valinet/ExplorerPatcher: This project aims to enhance the working environment on Windows

This project aims to enhance the working environment on Windows - valinet/ExplorerPatcher

github.com

hdmi · Mar 1, 2023

Neijek said:
Is there no chance for Explorer Patcher to be updated by the developer at all ? I got so used to how well a proper start menu can work for my day to day

At this point, I don't really need him to do so. It works.

The-Hive · Mar 1, 2023

Neijek said:
Is there no chance for Explorer Patcher to be updated by the developer at all ? I got so used to how well a proper start menu can work for my day to day

I think now the project if not finished with by @valinet must be continued on the GitHub by other people who have the knowledge to do that sort of thing

Edwin · Mar 1, 2023

I suspect Valinet gave up, or at least shelved it..., the last few Builds really screwed up his work!
Not to mention all the b*tchin and complaining from users of the free software..., he probably said "Forget it, you bunch of ingrates!"

Stormbrain · Mar 1, 2023

Sadly im on disability but if I could afford to I would have donated to EP because its been so invaluble for dealing with the not very nice design changes Ms decided to make

ThrashZone · Mar 1, 2023

Hi,
Yep pity
I haven't had any issues so no updates in about 4 months didn't seem that weird to me seeing I'm not in the habit of fixing what is not broken
If the issue is he wants rubles now well I'd suggest maybe moving buddy seeing Russia is not in anyone's help list

But maybe local media has been manipulated there so much and he's clueless what is happening over there.

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