New Version of ExplorerPatcher


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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    BOSGAME
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700U with Radeon Graphics
    Memory
    64 GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hisence 100"
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Internet Speed
    Bell Fiber 8GB DL 8 GB UP Wifi-7
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG
    Other Info
    SODOLA 8-Port 2.5Gb Switch,8 x 2.5GBASE-T Ports,1X10G SFP+,100Gbps Switching Capacity, Fanless, Metal Plug & Play 2.5G Unmanaged Network Switch S24 Ultra Smartphone Android Tp-link Tri-band Be19000 Wi-fi 7 Gaming Router Archer Ge800 |
    bitEngine 10G Media Converter, 10 Gigabit Copper to 10G Fiber Ethernet, Unmanaged 1x 1G/2.5G/5G/10GBase-T RJ45 to 1x 10GBase-X SFP+ Slot, Support 10G SR/LR SFP+ Module, Single
    SODOLA 10GBase-SR SFP+ Transceiver, 850nm MMF, up to 300 Meters, Compatible with Cisco SFP-10G-SR, Meraki MA-SFP-10GB-SR, Ubiquiti UniFi UF-MM-10G, Fortinet, Mikrotik, Netgear, TP-Link and More

    Don't use the Goggle defualts these servers are FASTER :)
    MANUAL
    DNS SERVER ASSIGNMENT 4.2.2.6 (Unencrypted)
    IPv4 DNS Servers : 9.9.9.9 (Unencrypted)

What You Need to Know by a Retired Microsoft Engineer you think you're Smarter them him I like to see you Try Ants In pants​

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    BOSGAME
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700U with Radeon Graphics
    Memory
    64 GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hisence 100"
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Internet Speed
    Bell Fiber 8GB DL 8 GB UP Wifi-7
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG
    Other Info
    SODOLA 8-Port 2.5Gb Switch,8 x 2.5GBASE-T Ports,1X10G SFP+,100Gbps Switching Capacity, Fanless, Metal Plug & Play 2.5G Unmanaged Network Switch S24 Ultra Smartphone Android Tp-link Tri-band Be19000 Wi-fi 7 Gaming Router Archer Ge800 |
    bitEngine 10G Media Converter, 10 Gigabit Copper to 10G Fiber Ethernet, Unmanaged 1x 1G/2.5G/5G/10GBase-T RJ45 to 1x 10GBase-X SFP+ Slot, Support 10G SR/LR SFP+ Module, Single
    SODOLA 10GBase-SR SFP+ Transceiver, 850nm MMF, up to 300 Meters, Compatible with Cisco SFP-10G-SR, Meraki MA-SFP-10GB-SR, Ubiquiti UniFi UF-MM-10G, Fortinet, Mikrotik, Netgear, TP-Link and More

    Don't use the Goggle defualts these servers are FASTER :)
    MANUAL
    DNS SERVER ASSIGNMENT 4.2.2.6 (Unencrypted)
    IPv4 DNS Servers : 9.9.9.9 (Unencrypted)
Windows Show/Hide Tool is NOT blocked, I just ran it and it works. But I have too encountered some systems that it displays an error message and doesn't work there. I don't know why, in a few systems that doesn't work, I use WAU Manager. In the rest systems I use Show/Hide Tool.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
the program software that was issued On here some time back is .
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    BOSGAME
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700U with Radeon Graphics
    Memory
    64 GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Hisence 100"
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Internet Speed
    Bell Fiber 8GB DL 8 GB UP Wifi-7
    Browser
    Google Chrome
    Antivirus
    AVG
    Other Info
    SODOLA 8-Port 2.5Gb Switch,8 x 2.5GBASE-T Ports,1X10G SFP+,100Gbps Switching Capacity, Fanless, Metal Plug & Play 2.5G Unmanaged Network Switch S24 Ultra Smartphone Android Tp-link Tri-band Be19000 Wi-fi 7 Gaming Router Archer Ge800 |
    bitEngine 10G Media Converter, 10 Gigabit Copper to 10G Fiber Ethernet, Unmanaged 1x 1G/2.5G/5G/10GBase-T RJ45 to 1x 10GBase-X SFP+ Slot, Support 10G SR/LR SFP+ Module, Single
    SODOLA 10GBase-SR SFP+ Transceiver, 850nm MMF, up to 300 Meters, Compatible with Cisco SFP-10G-SR, Meraki MA-SFP-10GB-SR, Ubiquiti UniFi UF-MM-10G, Fortinet, Mikrotik, Netgear, TP-Link and More

    Don't use the Goggle defualts these servers are FASTER :)
    MANUAL
    DNS SERVER ASSIGNMENT 4.2.2.6 (Unencrypted)
    IPv4 DNS Servers : 9.9.9.9 (Unencrypted)
Old versions make no difference as long as they work perfectly. I use some old video tools (2003 era) that work perfectly and I cannot find modern equivalents.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Please, you’re unhinged. Stop spamming.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.5039
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    5 x LG 25MS500-B - 1 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech: G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    1000/400Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Antivirus
    Defender / Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.
We better all stop. None of these are relevant to Explorer Patcher.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4

ExplorerPatcher 22631.5335.68.2

Tested on OS builds 22621.3296, 22631.5189, 22631.5335, 26100.3476, 26100.4061, and 26100.4188.

Changes:

Start10: Fixed Pin to Start on 226x1.4541+ and 261xx.2454+. (#3984) (4ef3667, 123ea8b)
sws: Added support for 24H2. (#3765)
ep_dwm: Added support for 24H2. (#3555)
ep_dwm.exe has been renamed to ep_dwm_svc.exe to get around 24H2 upgrade blocks. (115b462)
ep_dwm: Now always unregistered on uninstallation, regardless of whether it was running during the uninstallation or not. (858b634)
Setup: The failure message now displays the associated code line number that failed, to assist in troubleshooting. (c64a17e)
Taskbar10: Fixed disabling immersive menus on ARM64. (8b4d8db)
Taskbar10: Fixed Win+X menu still having Windows Terminal entries when Windows Terminal is not installed, that crashes Explorer when selected. (1b20cbd, 207f669)
For now, if you want to have PowerShell entries, Windows Terminal must be uninstalled.
Taskbar10: Fixed Win+X entry clicks doing nothing on 26xxx.5551+ ARM64.
GUI: Added dropdown indicators to dropdown entries. (9f71a5c)
GUI: The language names now include the country name. (3f11766)
Localization: Added Czech translations. (Thanks @9hb, @andrewz1986, and @Panzimy!)
Localization: Added Spanish (Spain) translations. (Thanks @AlejandroMartiGisbert!)
ep_taskbar: Added support for "Show desktop button: Hidden" setting. (#4020) (1be6658)
ep_taskbar: Fixed a bug that prevented shortcut global hotkeys from working on 24H2. (#3777, #4016)
ep_taskbar: Fixed a bug that prevented the taskbar from resizing properly after DPI changes. (#3796)
ep_taskbar: Added the following languages: German, French, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Korean, Lithuanian, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese (Brazil), Romanian, Spanish (Spain), Turkish, Ukrainian, Chinese (Simplified).
ep_taskbar: Fixed a number of memory leaks and code/behavior inaccuracies.
ep_taskbar: Fixed incompatibility with 26200.5603 (Dev), 26120.4151 (Beta), and 26100.4188 (Release Preview). (#4321)
ep_taskbar: Now supports all Windows 10 versions supported by EP (17763/1809+). (aec8c70, 1edb989)

Important note:

Newly released binaries tend to get falsely flagged by Defender. False flags like these usually go away after some time.

Please include the following files and folders in your antivirus' exclusion list to prevent issues due to antivirus detections:

C:\Program Files\ExplorerPatcher

%APPDATA%\ExplorerPatcher

C:\Windows\dxgi.dll

C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost_cw5n1h2txyewy

C:\Windows\SystemApps\ShellExperienceHost_cw5n1h2txyewy

For Defender, you can run the following script in PowerShell as an administrator:

Add-MpPreference -ExclusionPath "C:\Program Files\ExplorerPatcher"
Add-MpPreference -ExclusionPath "$env:APPDATA\ExplorerPatcher"
Add-MpPreference -ExclusionPath "C:\Windows\dxgi.dll"
Add-MpPreference -ExclusionPath "C:\Windows\SystemApps\Microsoft.Windows.StartMenuExperienceHost_cw5n1h2txyewy"
Add-MpPreference -ExclusionPath "C:\Windows\SystemApps\ShellExperienceHost_cw5n1h2txyewy"

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
any way to leave the task bar with smaller spacing icons, like in startallback?
If I had it I would use it again instead of startallback


54537092166_319e795b19_b.jpg
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Iot Enterprise LTSC 24h2 26100.3476
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    xeon E5-2697v2
    Motherboard
    rampage iv extreme
    Memory
    32gb 8x4gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    gtx 570 poit of view
    Sound Card
    realtek HD (ALC898)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    samsung b2030
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900
    Hard Drives
    2tb hd 5400 rpm
    3tb hd 5400 rpm
    1tb nvme pcie 3.0
    PSU
    hx850w
    Keyboard
    mtek
    Internet Speed
    500/250 gpon
    Browser
    firefox 136.0.1
    Antivirus
    none
any way to leave the task bar with smaller spacing icons, like in startallback?
If I had it I would use it again instead of startallback


54537092166_319e795b19_b.jpg
Below is how my taskbar compares to yours. Using ExplorerPatcher on 24H2. Clearly, ExplorerPatcher wins in pure terms of how many icons are able to fit on there. This has always been true about ExplorerPatcher, BTW. It's one of those multiple reasons why I wouldn't switch to StartAllBack if you paid me to switch to it. 😛

Taskbar comparison.webp
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
@Wolfzz I just installed as an update and it went fine, a couple of things I noticed was I had to reboot even after restarting Explorer as Battery mode and Atomic alarm clock didn't work and I had to turn Atomic alarm back on as a startup item, After reboot all is fine.
Here is my Taskbar with all the customisations
Screenshot 2025-05-22 144148.webp
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware M18 R1
    CPU
    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz 2x16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
    Sound Card
    Nvidia HD / Realtek ALC3254
    Monitor(s) Displays
    18" QHD+
    Screen Resolution
    25660 X 1600
    Hard Drives
    C: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    D: KIOXIA (Toshiba) 2TB KXG80ZNV2T04 NVMe PCIe M.2 SSD
    Case
    Dark Metallic Moon
    Keyboard
    Alienware M Series per-key AlienFX RGB
    Mouse
    Alienware AW610M
    Browser
    Chrome and Firefox
    Antivirus
    Norton
    Other Info
    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller
    Killer Killer AX1690 Wi-Fi Network Adaptor Wi-Fi 6E
    Bluetooth 5.2
    Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware Area 51m R2
    CPU
    10th Gen i-9 10900 K
    Memory
    32Gb Dual Channel DDR4 @ 8843MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 2080 Super
    Sound Card
    Nvidia
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Hard Drive C: Samsung 2TB SSD PM981a NVMe
    Hard Drive D:Samsung 2TB SSD 970 EVO Plus
    Mouse
    Alienware 610M
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Norton
Below is how my taskbar compares to yours. Using ExplorerPatcher on 24H2. Clearly, ExplorerPatcher wins in pure terms of how many icons are able to fit on there. This has always been true about ExplorerPatcher, BTW. It's one of those multiple reasons why I wouldn't switch to StartAllBack if you paid me to switch to it. 😛

View attachment 134786
It must be because of the resolution, you must be in 4k, here I am in 1600x900, that is, 900p, to compare the bars we have to stay in the same resolution.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Iot Enterprise LTSC 24h2 26100.3476
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    xeon E5-2697v2
    Motherboard
    rampage iv extreme
    Memory
    32gb 8x4gb ddr3 1333 mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    gtx 570 poit of view
    Sound Card
    realtek HD (ALC898)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    samsung b2030
    Screen Resolution
    1600x900
    Hard Drives
    2tb hd 5400 rpm
    3tb hd 5400 rpm
    1tb nvme pcie 3.0
    PSU
    hx850w
    Keyboard
    mtek
    Internet Speed
    500/250 gpon
    Browser
    firefox 136.0.1
    Antivirus
    none
I'm still sitting in a state of "Can't install updates" for 24H2. I value EP more than what seems to be one of the worst W11 updates, so I'm just kinda waiting around.
I really wish W11 had a normal taskbar. All I really want is quicklaunch and taskbar items that don't combine. Any advice? Probably just going to go Linux as my main OS and just forget about whatever apps don't work nice with it. Sad times.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
I use Explorer Patcher exactly for that. To ungroup the grouped network-sound-power icons so I can customize them. I also had an issue to update Explorer Patcher some months ago. Just manually download the latest version and run it to install. This should fix any issues and update to the latest version.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
I use Explorer Patcher exactly for that. To ungroup the grouped network-sound-power icons so I can customize them. I also had an issue to update Explorer Patcher some months ago. Just manually download the latest version and run it to install. This should fix any issues and update to the latest version.
Thanks, I've had to uninstall and reinstall a few times over the last couple years. I've been waiting because I've read that it is more likely to crash with 24H2. Is this true?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    windows 11
Not the latest versions.

PS: When I tried to upgrade from 23H2 to 24H2, I was warned about Explorer Patcher and wouldn't proceed. I just uninstalled Explorer Patcher, upgraded and then installed it again.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
It must be because of the resolution, you must be in 4k, here I am in 1600x900, that is, 900p, to compare the bars we have to stay in the same resolution.
So how did you reduce the icons size and/or icon spacing on the taskbar before Windows 11 came out then? BTW, a reasonably decent 27″ 4k monitor can already be had for about $159-$169 on Amazon.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
I've been waiting because I've read that it is more likely to crash with 24H2. Is this true?
I don't know if it's true that you've been waiting, but if it's true, you've been waiting for false rumors to stop getting spread across the internet, which boils down to the same as waiting for Chistmas and Easter to coincide. lol
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
I don't know if it's true that you've been waiting, but if it's true, you've been waiting for false rumors to stop getting spread across the internet, which boils down to the same as waiting for Chistmas and Easter to coincide. lol
Older versions of Explorer Patcher had incompatibilities in 24H2. That was 2-3 versions ago. Last version and the previous don't have this issue. A known bug for us using Explorer Patcher together with Open Shell is the search box/icon disappearing when there is a screen change (change in resolution, enable/disable second monitor). This can be fixed by switching from search box to icon and vice versa. Another bug is that the taskbar color set in Open Shell is ignored and reverts to the default color when you click to search and remains until you close the search window. Sometimes it is stuck and doesn't change back to the set color in Open Shell. To fix it again you switch from search box to icon and vice versa. Latest version of Explorer Patcher seems to behave a little better for the second bug.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.3915)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
Older versions of Explorer Patcher had incompatibilities in 24H2. That was 2-3 versions ago. Last version and the previous don't have this issue. A known bug for us using Explorer Patcher together with Open Shell is the search box/icon disappearing when there is a screen change (change in resolution, enable/disable second monitor). This can be fixed by switching from search box to icon and vice versa. Another bug is that the taskbar color set in Open Shell is ignored and reverts to the default color when you click to search and remains until you close the search window. Sometimes it is stuck and doesn't change back to the set color in Open Shell. To fix it again you switch from search box to icon and vice versa. Latest version of Explorer Patcher seems to behave a little better for the second bug.
We were talking about crashes, not some cosmetic bugs that affect only a very small group of users. I have been running ExplorerPatcher on 24H2 since October last year. There are no crashes excepting only the explorer process can still randomly crash IF the computer wasn't restarted after changing one or more of those specific ExplorerPatcher settings that require to restart explorer. This has always been the case with ExplorerPatcher, though. So, this definitely isn't limited to 24H2. I don't tend to change these specific settings very often anyway in the first place so, to me, personally, it really doesn't matter.

That being said, disabling the search icon, whipping up an AutoHotKey v2 script that simulates Win+S, and pinning a shortcut to it isn't exactly rocket science or if it is, then people can ask. Also, Open-Shell's taskbar color only gets ignored on the clock, not on any of the other taskbar text elements. Open-Shell's taskbar texture gets ignored on the pinned/running apps area, but you can use Open-Shell's taskbar opacity as an alternative to the texture. If you never turn on the taskbar's autohide, you could also decide to use the opacity in conjunction with editing your wallpaper to integrate your desired taskbar texture directly into your wallpaper as a nice workaround.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF

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