New windows 11 dualboot


Josey Wales said:
try dual booting with a Linux Distro ? Most will not run with Secure Boot enabled. I cannot even get Linux to run on my NUC with Secure Boot Enabled.
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May be some issue in the bootloader at dual boot.
What Linux flavor(s) and version is that?
The latest releases tested here all seem to support it.

Running Fedora, CentOS Stream, Alma, Linux Mint here with no issues.
Clonezilla live (Debian - Ubuntu) also detects secureboot and boots properly.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC
    CPU
    i3 8109U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 @2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
    Sound Card
    Intel / Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG-32ML600M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
    PSU
    Adapter
    Cooling
    The usual NUC airflow
    Keyboard
    Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
    Internet Speed
    Good enough
    Browser
    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    CentOS 9 Stream / Alma / Rocky / Fedora
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    TOSHIBA
    CPU
    Intel i7 4800MQ
    Motherboard
    TOSHIBA
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @1600
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
moleman said:
I tried a different work around. I installed VMware virtual player and it installed windows 10 on my new partition as a virtual system. Now I only need to know I if I can restore my old files and programs or will I need to re install all of my programs? Every time I have reinstall everything it takes me a month or more. Some programs are installed from portals, some old disks etc.
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If you can still boot the old system is fine, if you cannot but still have access to the drive that's also fine.
Make a copy / clone / full image of your installation of Win10 with all the programs, then restore this in the VM.
What worked for me so far is Macrium Reflect or Disk2Vhd.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Intel NUC
    CPU
    i3 8109U
    Motherboard
    Intel
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 @2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
    Sound Card
    Intel / Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG-32ML600M
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Intel SSD 250GB + Samsung QVO SSD 1TB
    PSU
    Adapter
    Cooling
    The usual NUC airflow
    Keyboard
    Logitech Orion G610
    Mouse
    SteelSeries Rival 100 Red
    Internet Speed
    Good enough
    Browser
    Chromium, Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
  • Operating System
    CentOS 9 Stream / Alma / Rocky / Fedora
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    TOSHIBA
    CPU
    Intel i7 4800MQ
    Motherboard
    TOSHIBA
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 @1600
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K2100M
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Built-in
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
Hi there
I'm running both Arch Linux and "Pre alpha next release" testing Fedora 41. Absolutely no problem in running W11 as a VM on KVM/QEMU wuth sec boot enabled (for the VM). You can either use emulated TPM (use Hypervisor default - emulated in the VM's config) or pass thru for the physical device. Ensure the swtpm package is installed for emulating TPM and ovmk (or equivalent) for the UEFI / sec boot feature for VM's -- on most distros that's usually installed by default when you install libvirt (the virtual machine facility). If you get a choice when installing kvm-qemu choose full rather than basic then all the possibly missing bits will be installed automatically.

I'm currently installing the latest Canary build --so far seems to be working OK - on Kernel 6.9.X on Fedora 41 (which itself is pre release testing).

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And the Host : Actually quite an ancient (but still OK laptop-- CPU too old to run W11 native - but makes a good spare testing machine.

Screenshot_20240321_101647.png

Finally complete W11 Enterprise canary under Fedora 41 KVM/QEMU. (I had to use W11 Enterprise since I had a spare license -- but I'm going to test bog std W11 Pro a bit later --don't see why it should be any "less installable" though).

Screenshot_20240321_103509.png

I'm not that sophisticated a Windows user but I rarely seem to have any trouble installing the varous builds -- OK I don't do games so that might be a problem with some really sophisticated GPU and A.I things but things like missing toolbars and a whole slew of other stuff regularly reported on the Forums I never experience. I agree with most though the whole insider program seems a total dogs dinner of a mess (and that's being unfair to dogs).

And BTW this VM converted to a physical machine without an issue either.

cheers
jimbo
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows XP,7,10,11 Linux Arch Linux
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    2 X Intel i7
Hopachi said:
May be some issue in the bootloader at dual boot.
What Linux flavor(s) and version is that?
The latest releases tested here all seem to support it.

Running Fedora, CentOS Stream, Alma, Linux Mint here with no issues.
Clonezilla live (Debian - Ubuntu) also detects secureboot and boots properly.
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I Don't dual boot with anything, I was just going by what I have read about it. I know Linux Mint will. I use an Intel 13Gen NUC for Linux & I had to turn off Secure Boot on that. It may be an issue with my Router. I am using MX Linux 23.2 & Arch on that.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 26100.3037
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware Aurora R16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 14900F (24 -Core, 68 MB Total Cache)
    Motherboard
    Dell Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080 Super
    Sound Card
    Intel but not working
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Corsair XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    1-2TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    1-4TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    PSU
    1000 Watt Platinum Dell
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Liquid Closed Loop
    Keyboard
    Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Pro
    Internet Speed
    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 134.0.2
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Very Quiet And Fast
    CyberPower UPS CP1500PFCLCD
  • Operating System
    Optimum 11 24H2 Build 26100.2454
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuypower
    CPU
    Intel Core i3 1315u
    Motherboard
    ASRock
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    PNY RTX 4017
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2TB SNV2S20006 PCIe 4.0 M.2.2280
    SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB, PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280
    PSU
    850Watt
    Case
    Small
    Cooling
    Closed loop Liquid
    Mouse
    IBP
    Keyboard
    IBP
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Firefox 133.0
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Noisy but fast

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.4825 (Release Channel) / Linux Mint 22.1 Cinnamon
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo A485
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 2700U Pro
    Motherboard
    Lenovo (WiFi/BT module upgraded to Intel Wireless-AC-9260)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    iGPU Vega 10
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" FHD (built-in) + 14" Lenovo Thinkvision M14t (touch+pen) + 32" Asus PB328
    Screen Resolution
    FHD + FHD + 1440p
    Hard Drives
    Intel 660p m.2 nVME PCIe3.0 x2 512GB
    PSU
    65W
    Keyboard
    Thinkpad / Logitech MX Keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Chromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    SecureBoot: Enabled
    TPM2.0: Enabled
    AMD-V: Enabled
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 build 10.0.22631.4825(Release Preview Channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    i7-7700k @4.8GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus PRIME Z270-A
    Memory
    32GB 2x16GB 2133MHz CL15
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GTX1080Ti FTW 11GB
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" 10-bit Asus PB328Q
    Screen Resolution
    WQHD 2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    512GB ADATA SX8000NP NVMe PCIe Gen 3 x4
    PSU
    850W
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2S
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX Keys
    Internet Speed
    600/300Mbit
    Browser
    Edge (Cromium)
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    AC WiFi Card
SlicEnDicE said:
How does your router relate in any way with Linux and Secure Boot enabled? I'm confused...
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I said may, it does not. Just that I had to turn off secure boot on the NUC to get Linux to boot. The router is the only conman link between my PC & NUC. I am not sure why I had to turn off secure boot on the NUC.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 26100.3037
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware Aurora R16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 14900F (24 -Core, 68 MB Total Cache)
    Motherboard
    Dell Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080 Super
    Sound Card
    Intel but not working
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Corsair XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    1-2TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    1-4TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    PSU
    1000 Watt Platinum Dell
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Liquid Closed Loop
    Keyboard
    Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Pro
    Internet Speed
    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 134.0.2
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Very Quiet And Fast
    CyberPower UPS CP1500PFCLCD
  • Operating System
    Optimum 11 24H2 Build 26100.2454
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuypower
    CPU
    Intel Core i3 1315u
    Motherboard
    ASRock
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    PNY RTX 4017
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2TB SNV2S20006 PCIe 4.0 M.2.2280
    SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB, PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280
    PSU
    850Watt
    Case
    Small
    Cooling
    Closed loop Liquid
    Mouse
    IBP
    Keyboard
    IBP
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Firefox 133.0
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Noisy but fast
The reason is that the Distro's I want to use will not Boot with Secure Boot on. I will NOT turn it off, or use a Distro that will boot, that I don't like.

Well I just Downloaded Linux Mint and it will boot and install but I do not want to use it. So there is not a problem.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 26100.3037
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware Aurora R16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 14900F (24 -Core, 68 MB Total Cache)
    Motherboard
    Dell Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080 Super
    Sound Card
    Intel but not working
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Corsair XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    1-2TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    1-4TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    PSU
    1000 Watt Platinum Dell
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Liquid Closed Loop
    Keyboard
    Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Pro
    Internet Speed
    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 134.0.2
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Very Quiet And Fast
    CyberPower UPS CP1500PFCLCD
  • Operating System
    Optimum 11 24H2 Build 26100.2454
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuypower
    CPU
    Intel Core i3 1315u
    Motherboard
    ASRock
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    PNY RTX 4017
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2TB SNV2S20006 PCIe 4.0 M.2.2280
    SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB, PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280
    PSU
    850Watt
    Case
    Small
    Cooling
    Closed loop Liquid
    Mouse
    IBP
    Keyboard
    IBP
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Firefox 133.0
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Noisy but fast
The answer is just simple, Now is a 2024, distro which does not sb signed I wont use it, simple right?
But almost all which I tried is worked fine. but Linux GUI (any) is reason why I don't want to use it, I have WSL2 and Debian if I need anything from Linux
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
From what I have read above, Windows 11 will not allow me to boot Windows 10 from a USB drive. Pity. Thanks for all the information. Brian
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    Memory
    8Gb
    Internet Speed
    via Fibreoptics
    Browser
    MS Edge
Can I assume that, if I install Windows 10 in a partition, I have no way of choosing which version of Windows I wish to boot at any given time. Brian
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    Memory
    8Gb
    Internet Speed
    via Fibreoptics
    Browser
    MS Edge
bjhannaway said:
Can I assume that, if I install Windows 10 in a partition, I have no way of choosing which version of Windows I wish to boot at any given time. Brian
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If you have installed more than one version of Windows you will see a boot menu at start up where you can choose which OS to boot, or after 10 seconds it will boot the default OS. You can also native boot from one or more .vhdx files, probably an easier way to set up multi-boot than installing to separate partitions. However each OS is installed, you can choose any one of them to be the default OS. Here only my Windows 10 is installed to a partition, all the rest are native boot vhdx.

www.elevenforum.com

Native Boot Windows 11 Virtual Hard Disk (VHDX)

This tutorial will show you how to boot a Windows 11 VHDX file natively to dual boot with Windows 10 or Windows 11. Native Boot allows you to create a virtual hard disk (VHDX), install Windows to it, and then boot it up, either on your PC side-by-side with your existing installation, or on a...
www.elevenforum.com www.elevenforum.com

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
Thanks everyone. I think I will try to simply revert to Windows 10 and go from there. Brian
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    Memory
    8Gb
    Internet Speed
    via Fibreoptics
    Browser
    MS Edge
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