Solved OneDrive unlink paranoia


I guess my thing is, why you can't add folders of your own choice to the sync chain, in OneDrive, instead of having to use those 5 user home folders.
You can create your own folders inside of OneDrive (as I do), then simply right click a file, select OneDrive and the folder you want it in. Simple.

You can also Sync Any Folder to OneDrive in Windows 11 and Windows 10 Tutorial

I guess it amounts to the same thing, whether you designate folders or drag stuff to default folders! 🤷‍♂️
Yep ;-)

I don't have any base folders (Documents, Desktop, Pictures) sync'd to my OneDrive account.
 

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So..., the only remaining mystery is..., how, as some have reported, do some local files magically disappear if they stop syncing or uninstall OneDrive?
 

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So..., the only remaining mystery is..., how, as some have reported, do some local files magically disappear if they stop syncing or uninstall OneDrive?
No mystery. The relationship of the local OneDrive folder and cloud OneDrive has two states called "Files On Demand".
1 Files On Demand = ON
2 Files On Demand = OFF

The default is Files On Demand = ON. This means that OneDrive files are kept in the cloud and only downloaded to the user's PC "On Demand". If you look in File Manager it appears that your files are on your PC. They aren't. They are in the cloud and they are only on your PC if you "Demand" to use them. Then they are downloaded locally. Not understanding this has caused huge amounts of grief. It looks like they are there, but they aren't.

I always turn "Files On Demand = OFF". What this does is set up a real-time mirror between cloud OneDrive and your local OneDrive folder. Your files are ALWAYS in both places and are always in real-time sync.

The reason for having the two states is when there is the possibility of having more files in the cloud than can be stored locally. You have two computers sharing OneDrive. One has a big SSD and the other has a small SSD. One uses "Files On Demand = ON" and one uses "Files On Demand = OFF".

You can see what happens if a user starts deleting files without understanding what is going on. He thinks he is deleting local files. He isn't. He's deleting the only copy he has in the cloud. POOF. His files are gone.
 

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You can also see what happens if he uninstalls OneDrive. He sees his files in File Explorer, so he uninstalls OneDrive. When he does that, he thinks his files have disappeared. They haven't. He deleted the link between local OneDrive and cloud OneDrive. Now the files are only in the cloud. He doesn't understand that even though he deleted OneDrive, cloud OneDrive is still there with his files. He can still connect with cloud OneDrive through his browser and do what he wants with his files.
 

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The user also doesn't understand that if he accidentally deletes files in cloud OneDrive that there is a Recycle Bin in cloud OneDrive and when you delete or change a file, the original file is now in the cloud Recycle Bin. This is a revolving Recycle Bin that only contains file history for the past 30 days and no more. There are many times the user could have gotten his deleted files back if he had only educated himself on how OneDrive works.
 

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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
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    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
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    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
No mystery. The relationship of the local OneDrive folder and cloud OneDrive has two states called "Files On Demand".
1 Files On Demand = ON
2 Files On Demand = OFF

The default is Files On Demand = ON. This means that OneDrive files are kept in the cloud and only downloaded to the user's PC "On Demand". If you look in File Manager it appears that your files are on your PC. They aren't. They are in the cloud and they are only on your PC if you "Demand" to use them. Then they are downloaded locally. Not understanding this has caused huge amounts of grief. It looks like they are there, but they aren't.

I always turn "Files On Demand = OFF". What this does is set up a real-time mirror between cloud OneDrive and your local OneDrive folder. Your files are ALWAYS in both places and are always in real-time sync.

The reason for having the two states is when there is the possibility of having more files in the cloud than can be stored locally. You have two computers sharing OneDrive. One has a big SSD and the other has a small SSD. One uses "Files On Demand = ON" and one uses "Files On Demand = OFF".

You can see what happens if a user starts deleting files without understanding what is going on. He thinks he is deleting local files. He isn't. He's deleting the only copy he has in the cloud. POOF. His files are gone.
Files On Demand is a deities gift on smaller emmc drives typically 32GB / 64 GB drives.

Personally I use FOD on all pcs as image backups get a lot larger if files reside on local drive as well as cloud. Trade off is files are not instantly accessible of course. However most onedrive files are only one hundred MB at most, and download in a few seconds as I have 900 Mb/s Internet.

A few may be as much as 25GB (image backup backups) and these can take up to 10 minutes to download over wifi (my laptop is quite a distance from router but I still get circa 300 Mb/s).

One thing many people do not realise is you can have FOD on but mark individual files or folders as being on both devices, so files you use a lot can be made instantly accessible i.e. it is not all or nothing.

One slight downside of FOD is you have to remember to free up space periodically i.e. make download files only reside on cloud.
 

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    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Still a bit of a mystery on my end! I'll try to sort it out and attempt to explain it when I get home tonight.
 

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I respectfully disagree with what some have advised here. When a user uses a MS account synced to Onedrive You can not just arbitrarily uninstall Onedrive without first unlinking your user account & PC from Onedrive and getting your files back onto your system drive . You can end up in an unholy mess if you aren't careful. This has been hashed and rehashed hundreds of times on this forum. There is a proper procedure for getting rid of Onedrive and getting user files back on his system drive that has been posted many times on the forum. And yes as @Stigg pointed out, if not done correctly Onedrive can and has deleted files depending on what the user has done. Sometimes, the files can be found in the recycle bin in Onedrive on the web, but sometimes not.
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@ChrisPbass Since onedrive is already uninstalled, You could see if this wiill work.
1. Check the status of backup syncing, If it is on, turn it off for all folders Use option 1 https://www.elevenforum.com/t/turn-on-or-off-onedrive-folder-backup-syncing-across-windows-11-devices.4321/

2. use option #3 in each of the tutorials below to restore default location of your user folders. You would then have to manually move/copy your personal files from Onedrive on the web into these folders which should be created at C:\users\yourusername. Any files you have in Onedrive on the web will stay there until you manually move/delete them.

For anyone finding this thread,
This is the Proper sequence of events to get rid of ONEDRIVE

Step 1. You first have to turn off backup folder syncing. This tutorial tells you how and also how to get your files onto your local drive.
https://www.elevenforum.com/t/turn-on-or-off-onedrive-folder-backup-syncing-across-windows-11-devices.4321/

NOTE: ONLY IF FOLDERS DO NOT AUTOMAtICALLY MOVE TO DEFAULT LOCATION IN STEP 1 ABOVE DO THIS

If this happens, then you could try option three in the tutorials below to restore the default folder location and move your files manually from Onedrive into the folders..

Step 2. Then you have to unlink account & PC from onedrive..
https://www.elevenforum.com/t/unlink-account-and-pc-from-onedrive-in-windows-11.15162/
Once you do this the files you have in onedrive will remain there until you login to Onedrive on the Web and delete them.
Sign in - Microsoft OneDrive

Step 3. You can then either uninstall Onedrive or disable it. I prefer to disable it. Open Task Manager>Preocesses.
Find Onedrive in the list and, right click on it, select end task.

Then in task manager select Startup Apps. Find Onedrive.exe in the list, Right click on it and select disable. This prevents Onedrive from auto-starting and giving you nags.

4. If you want to uninstall it instead, the best way is to use Revo Uninstaller Freeware Portable. You’ll find Onedrive under the Windows Apps section. Be sure to scan for and delete any leftover files and registry entries Revo finds. Download Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Free and Full Download

5. You can also use option 1 in this tutorial to uninstall Onedrive. It will leave a few files and registry entries behind though. You have to manually remove those items .
Those entries left behind are:
remove the residual folders, search for OneDrive in “%UserProfile%, “%LocalAppData% and “%ProgramData% folders
remove registry entries
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Wow6432Node\CLSID\{018D5C66-4533-4307-9B53-224DE2ED1FE6}
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{018D5C66-4533-4307-9B53-224DE2ED1FE6}
Uninstall and Reinstall OneDrive in Windows 11 Tutorial

Regarding Office 365 which is tightly integrated with Onedrive., you have to go into OPTIONS in each of the Office programs you use.
By default, Microsoft Office365 apps saves files to OneDrive when you're signed in. However, you can change the default save location for each of these apps in 365.You would need to make this change in every 365 app you use.
  1. Open Word
  2. Select File and click Options
  3. Select the Save tab
  4. Check the Save to Computer by default checkbox
  5. Click Browse under the Default local file location setting
  6. Select your desired location in the File Explorer pop-up
  7. Select OK to finalize the changes
NOTE: It is my understanding that "autosave" in these apps will no longer work if Onedrive is not the default save location.

You can also still manually select the save location on your computer each time you save a file. To do this, you can:
  1. Click Save for new files or Save As for existing files
  2. Click This PC
  3. Pick a folder to save your file to
Well written, Glassy. 👏

The only thing I'll say is that there needs to be better checks put in place to avoid these problems caused or not caused by the end user.

As an end user, it shouldn't be assumed that everyone is a Windows and OneDrive guru like us. 🫢 😂
 

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Have you taken a look at Windows 11 x-lite?
If your as paranoid as you say, there's a version with all of the MS crap omitted from it.
I've used x-lite for a few years with never a problem
Hey Danny! First time I have ever heard of Windows X-Lite. Looks interesting. I'm surprised Microsoft allows it.
 

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No mystery. The relationship of the local OneDrive folder and cloud OneDrive has two states called "Files On Demand".
1 Files On Demand = ON
2 Files On Demand = OFF

The default is Files On Demand = ON. This means that OneDrive files are kept in the cloud and only downloaded to the user's PC "On Demand". If you look in File Manager it appears that your files are on your PC. They aren't. They are in the cloud and they are only on your PC if you "Demand" to use them. Then they are downloaded locally. Not understanding this has caused huge amounts of grief. It looks like they are there, but they aren't.

I always turn "Files On Demand = OFF". What this does is set up a real-time mirror between cloud OneDrive and your local OneDrive folder. Your files are ALWAYS in both places and are always in real-time sync.

The reason for having the two states is when there is the possibility of having more files in the cloud than can be stored locally. You have two computers sharing OneDrive. One has a big SSD and the other has a small SSD. One uses "Files On Demand = ON" and one uses "Files On Demand = OFF".

You can see what happens if a user starts deleting files without understanding what is going on. He thinks he is deleting local files. He isn't. He's deleting the only copy he has in the cloud. POOF. His files are gone.

The user also doesn't understand that if he accidentally deletes files in cloud OneDrive that there is a Recycle Bin in cloud OneDrive and when you delete or change a file, the original file is now in the cloud Recycle Bin. This is a revolving Recycle Bin that only contains file history for the past 30 days and no more. There are many times the user could have gotten his deleted files back if he had only educated himself on how OneDrive works.
Great job of explaining things here Gary. And one I'll bookmark for future reference in pointing those with questions to (or making false claims).

(y)
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.4391)
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    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
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    Radeon (XFX MERC 310) RX 7900XT
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    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
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    27-inch Eizo Color Edge - CG2700X
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    3840 x 2160
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    Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon (Gen 12)
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    Intel Core Ultra 7 165U vPro® Processor
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    Vendor
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    32 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz (Soldered)
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    Intel Graphics
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    2880 x 1800
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    Vendor
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    Lenovo
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    Vapor Chamber Cooling
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    Touchpad: Haptic Touchpad
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    Backlit, Black with Fingerprint Reader and WWAN
    Internet Speed
    100MB
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    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    202. Build Your Own laptop.
    vPro Certified Model: vPro Enterprise
Great job of explaining things here Gary. And one I'll bookmark for future reference in pointing those with questions to (or making false claims).

(y)
Thanks @Dru2

OneDrive has been an essential element of my backup strategy for more than 16 years and I wouldn't be without it.
 

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    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
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    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
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    3840 x 2400
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    Microsoft PowerToys
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    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
Thanks @Dru2

OneDrive has been an essential element of my backup strategy for more than 16 years and I wouldn't be without it.
As you know (or should remember) I've been saying the same and also echo your sentiments.

Peace :cool:
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.4391)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon (XFX MERC 310) RX 7900XT
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27-inch Eizo Color Edge - CG2700X
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
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    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
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    Microsoft Edge Chromium
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    Windows Security
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    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.4391)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon (Gen 12)
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7 165U vPro® Processor
    Motherboard
    Vendor
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz (Soldered)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" 2.8K OLED, Anti Reflection, Touch, HDR 500, 400 nits, 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal
    PSU
    Vendor
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    Touchpad: Haptic Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, Black with Fingerprint Reader and WWAN
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    202. Build Your Own laptop.
    vPro Certified Model: vPro Enterprise
I am amazed by some of the answers given to @ChrisPbass. Some advice is incomplete, some is outright incorrect. This subject has been hashed and re-hashed many times here. To anyone who likes OD, that's fine, but most people who come here have made up their minds whether Onedrive is right for them or not. Chris specifically states he doesn't want it.
I do NOT want onedrive on this laptop at all.
Here is the proper procedure.
1. You first have to turn off backup folder syncing. This tutorial tells you how and also how to get your files onto your local drive.
https://www.elevenforum.com/t/turn-on-or-off-onedrive-folder-backup-syncing-across-windows-11-devices.4321/

NOTE: ONLY IF FOLDERS DO NOT MOVE TO DEFAULT LOCATION of c:\users\yourusername IN STEP 1 ABOVE DO THIS
If this happens, then you could try option three in the tutorials below to restore the default folder location and move your files manually from Onedrive into the folders..

2. Then you have to unlink account & PC from onedrive.
https://www.elevenforum.com/t/unlink-account-and-pc-from-onedrive-in-windows-11.15162/
Once you do this the files you have in onedrive will remain there until you login to Onedrive on the Web and delete them.
Sign in - Microsoft OneDrive

3. You can then either uninstall Onedrive or disable it. I prefer to disable it. Open Task Manager>Startup Apps
Find Onedrive in the list and, right click on it, select disable. This prevents Onedrive from auto-starting.

4. If you want to uninstall it instead, the best way is to use Revo Uninstaller Freeware Portable. You’ll find Onedrive under the Windows Apps section. Be sure to scan for and delete any leftover files and registry entries Revo finds. Download Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Free and Full Download

5. You can also use option 1 in this tutorial to uninstall it. It will leave a few registry entries behind though. Uninstall and Reinstall OneDrive in Windows 11
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2314
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell factory
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Internet Speed
    still not telling
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
It should be made clear that when eliminating/uninstalling OneDrive, that cloud OneDrive still remains and cannot be deleted.. You also cannot delete the OneDrive service itself (since it's a part of Microsoft's suite of online services).
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
Another reason to install windows x-lite, which offers builds without any trace of Onedrive....
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home X-lite version
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell OptiPlex 9010
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 (3rd Gen) 3570 / 3.4 GHz
    Motherboard
    Intel Q77 Express
    Memory
    32 GB of 1600 MHz non-ECC DDR3 SDRAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel HD Graphics 2500 Dynamic Video Memory
    Monitor(s) Displays
    22" veiwsonic
It should be made clear that when eliminating/uninstalling OneDrive, that cloud OneDrive still remains and cannot be deleted.. You also cannot delete the OneDrive service itself (since it's a part of Microsoft's suite of online services).
I cannot find any running services for OneDrive. What you say may be true if you ever used or synced any files with OneDrive. I never did and It was in the paths of all folders till I removed them. I also removed every trace of OneDrive. I never liked it and never used it since it came out. I will say for the record that I like Windows 11, it runs great of my Machine. What I do not like is the way that Microsoft wants to control every aspect of Windows's usage. If a user does not want to use any feature, it should be easily removed without problems. I also do not use EDGE , I update it and I would remove it if I could..
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 26100.3194
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware Aurora R16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 14900F (24 -Core, 68 MB Total Cache)
    Motherboard
    Dell Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080 Super
    Sound Card
    Intel but not working
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Corsair XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    1-2TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    1-4TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    PSU
    1000 Watt Platinum Dell
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Liquid Closed Loop
    Keyboard
    Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Pro
    Internet Speed
    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 135.0
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Very Quiet And Fast
    CyberPower UPS CP1500PFCLCD
  • Operating System
    Optimum 11 24H2 Build 26100.2454
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuypower
    CPU
    Intel Core i3 1315u
    Motherboard
    ASRock
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    PNY RTX 4017
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2TB SNV2S20006 PCIe 4.0 M.2.2280
    SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB, PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280
    PSU
    850Watt
    Case
    Small
    Cooling
    Closed loop Liquid
    Mouse
    IBP
    Keyboard
    IBP
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Firefox 133.0
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Noisy but fast
Another reason to install windows x-lite, which offers builds without any trace of Onedrive....
To me that is a good reason NOT to use emasculated versions. Just uninstall it on the normal version - end of story.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
    Motherboard
    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated Intel Iris XE
    Sound Card
    Realtek built in
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop OLED screen
    Screen Resolution
    2880x1800 touchscreen
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
    PSU
    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
    Case
    Yep, got one
    Cooling
    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
    Keyboard
    Built in UK keybd
    Mouse
    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
    Internet Speed
    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
No mystery. The relationship of the local OneDrive folder and cloud OneDrive has two states called "Files On Demand".
1 Files On Demand = ON
2 Files On Demand = OFF

The default is Files On Demand = ON. This means that OneDrive files are kept in the cloud and only downloaded to the user's PC "On Demand". If you look in File Manager it appears that your files are on your PC. They aren't. They are in the cloud and they are only on your PC if you "Demand" to use them. Then they are downloaded locally. Not understanding this has caused huge amounts of grief. It looks like they are there, but they aren't.

I always turn "Files On Demand = OFF". What this does is set up a real-time mirror between cloud OneDrive and your local OneDrive folder. Your files are ALWAYS in both places and are always in real-time sync.

The reason for having the two states is when there is the possibility of having more files in the cloud than can be stored locally. You have two computers sharing OneDrive. One has a big SSD and the other has a small SSD. One uses "Files On Demand = ON" and one uses "Files On Demand = OFF".

You can see what happens if a user starts deleting files without understanding what is going on. He thinks he is deleting local files. He isn't. He's deleting the only copy he has in the cloud. POOF. His files are gone.
You can also see what happens if he uninstalls OneDrive. He sees his files in File Explorer, so he uninstalls OneDrive. When he does that, he thinks his files have disappeared. They haven't. He deleted the link between local OneDrive and cloud OneDrive. Now the files are only in the cloud. He doesn't understand that even though he deleted OneDrive, cloud OneDrive is still there with his files. He can still connect with cloud OneDrive through his browser and do what he wants with his files.
The user also doesn't understand that if he accidentally deletes files in cloud OneDrive that there is a Recycle Bin in cloud OneDrive and when you delete or change a file, the original file is now in the cloud Recycle Bin. This is a revolving Recycle Bin that only contains file history for the past 30 days and no more. There are many times the user could have gotten his deleted files back if he had only educated himself on how OneDrive works.
Excellent info here, and I want to add that the easiest way to tell is also in file explorer using the details pane: (though it shows on other views but it is harder to see imho)

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The cloud icon shows its only on the cloud using the details view. - File demand on

The green check mark indicates its on your device and is synced with onedrive. - File demand off

This makes it more clear which state the file is in. But if you don't use the details pane, it is not very obvious and it's easy to misunderstand.

You can test it yourself by right clicking a file that is backed up to onedrive, and choosing free up space. This will then make that file "on demand" sort of.

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If you choose always keep on this device, the file will be stored locally and cloud.

When you open a file and it's set to on demand, you will see little syncing arrows on that status in file explorer when you open the file as it downloads to your pc and then it will open.

I personally still hate onedrive due to the way it works, but I do understand it ;)
 
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System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc
@andrew129260

This is a good explanation of the OneDrive "backup feature" that was not well thought out or implemented. This reckless move has caused an incredible amount of OneDrive hatred.

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS 16 9640
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 9 185H
    Memory
    32GB LPDDR5x 7467 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16.3 inch 4K+ OLED Infinity Edge Touch
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    1 Terabyte M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    None
    Internet Speed
    960 Mbps Netgear Mesh + 2 Satellites
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge (Chromium) + Bing
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Security (Defender)
    Other Info
    Microsoft 365 subscription
    Microsoft OneDrive 1TB Cloud
    Microsoft Visual Studio
    Microsoft Visual Studio Code
    Microsoft PowerToys
    Macrium Reflect X subscription
    Dell Support Assist
    Dell Command | Update
    1Password Password Manager
    Amazon Kindle for PC
    Interactive Brokers Trader Workstation
    Lightroom/Photoshop subscription
    BitLocker
    CoPilot
@andrew129260

This is a good explanation of the OneDrive "backup feature" that was not well thought out or implemented. This reckless move has caused an incredible amount of OneDrive hatred.

Yeah I saw his video on it before. It was well done. The onedrive backup is being turned on automatically for most people. As you said, reckless. Either by upgrading to windows 11, or installing windows 11. I have seen feature updates turn it on automatically. I would rather just not deal with the hassle, and uninstall it and use something else. Like google drive. Or just manually upload files to the website which is pretty quick. I understand how it can be useful for some people. But I don't want it. Microsoft has time and time again chosen to not respect my settings, so I don't want to use onedrive because It might change its mind again on its own. I am sure some people out there it works perfectly fine and respects your settings, but not everyone has had that experience. My system image and installer has onedrive removed and for good reason.
 
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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Built
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700 X3D
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG B550 GAMING PLUS
    Memory
    64 GB DDR4 3600mhz Gskill Ripjaws V
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4070 Super , 12GB VRAM Asus EVO Overclock
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M27Q (rev. 2.0) 2560 x 1440 @ 170hz HDR
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung nvme ssd
    2TB XPG nvme ssd
    PSU
    CORSAIR RMx SHIFT Series™ RM750x 80 PLUS Gold Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
    Case
    CORSAIR 3500X ARGB Mid-Tower ATX PC Case – Black
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING FROSTFLOW X 240 CPU Water Cooler
    Internet Speed
    900mbps DOWN, 100mbps UP
  • Operating System
    Chrome OS
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Chromebook
    CPU
    Intel Pentium Quad Core
    Memory
    4GB LPDDR4
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14 Inch HD SVA anti glare micro edge display
    Hard Drives
    64 GB emmc

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