Random crashes without BSOD


Hi everybody,
@zbook
I did as you recommended and the computer was running all day.
There were a couple of crashes.
Eventlogs share link...: download eventlogs
May be you can find some other hints..

The I3 CPU has been delivered and therefore, if there is enough time tomorrow i am going to replace the CPU.
Lets see what will happen then....

I will keep you informed...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 (22631.4317)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Loop
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900k
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790-F Gaming WIFI II
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR56400 32GBx2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvida Geforce RTX 4070 Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Hard Drives
    Kingston FURY Renegade M.2 2000 GB
    WD Red Pro 8 TB, 3.5", CMR x2
    PSU
    be quiet! Straight Power 12 Platinum 1000 W
    Case
    Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL E-ATX, ATX, mATX, Mini ITX
    Cooling
    Custom Loop Corsair
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Browser
    brave/firefox
How did you decide to replace the CPU?

Why not swap test the PSU?

(It was reported replaced but there were no BSOD)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
because I already replaced the PSU as you can read in my initial post... ;-)

I swaped everything except the mainboard, CPU and drive C:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 (22631.4317)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Loop
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900k
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790-F Gaming WIFI II
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR56400 32GBx2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvida Geforce RTX 4070 Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Hard Drives
    Kingston FURY Renegade M.2 2000 GB
    WD Red Pro 8 TB, 3.5", CMR x2
    PSU
    be quiet! Straight Power 12 Platinum 1000 W
    Case
    Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL E-ATX, ATX, mATX, Mini ITX
    Cooling
    Custom Loop Corsair
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Browser
    brave/firefox
see the edit
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
There were never BSOD...not a single BSOD occurred since the first start.
That is the reason why it is so difficult to find the culprit.
And in this forum is also no section for "crases without BSOD" but this section is definitely the best choice to post an looking for support...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 (22631.4317)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Loop
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900k
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790-F Gaming WIFI II
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR56400 32GBx2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvida Geforce RTX 4070 Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Hard Drives
    Kingston FURY Renegade M.2 2000 GB
    WD Red Pro 8 TB, 3.5", CMR x2
    PSU
    be quiet! Straight Power 12 Platinum 1000 W
    Case
    Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL E-ATX, ATX, mATX, Mini ITX
    Cooling
    Custom Loop Corsair
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Browser
    brave/firefox

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
Thank you zbook,

thats the difficult part with this issue... I did many stresstest with different tools and all of them run perfectly fine.
The behaviour is so weird because sometimes there are 3 crashes within an hour, on the other hand, no crashes for two days.
It does not matter either the computer is in idle and doing absolutely nothing or I am working on it....
It just happens immediately and without any pre signs....
I had to deal with many strange errors in the last 20 years, some of them were really difficult to solve. But this one is different...
We will see...
THANK YOU for your support....
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 (22631.4317)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Loop
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900k
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790-F Gaming WIFI II
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR56400 32GBx2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvida Geforce RTX 4070 Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Hard Drives
    Kingston FURY Renegade M.2 2000 GB
    WD Red Pro 8 TB, 3.5", CMR x2
    PSU
    be quiet! Straight Power 12 Platinum 1000 W
    Case
    Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL E-ATX, ATX, mATX, Mini ITX
    Cooling
    Custom Loop Corsair
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Browser
    brave/firefox
I did many stresstest with different tools

Which stress tests had been used?

Swap testing is very often needed to identify the malfunctioning or incompatible component.


Please post Speccy results.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
Hi everybody,

sorry for waiting, it took me some time replacing further parts.
What I did:

- replaced the CPU
- replaced the M2 drive with Windows with an SSD on an Sata port with a new installed Windows.
- just to be sure, I not only swapped the RAM, I replaced with another manufacturer.
- so all drives (also USB drives) have been replaced.
@zbook it seems there are no drives left for further scans. What do you mean, may be a driver problem?

It crased twice with these changings and at the moment I am waiting for another crash to give me the final reason for a motherboard RMA.

I am still very interesstet in your opinion and input.

Thank to everybody that tried to help me so far.

I will keep you informed.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 (22631.4317)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Loop
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900k
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790-F Gaming WIFI II
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR56400 32GBx2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvida Geforce RTX 4070 Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Hard Drives
    Kingston FURY Renegade M.2 2000 GB
    WD Red Pro 8 TB, 3.5", CMR x2
    PSU
    be quiet! Straight Power 12 Platinum 1000 W
    Case
    Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL E-ATX, ATX, mATX, Mini ITX
    Cooling
    Custom Loop Corsair
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Browser
    brave/firefox
Today is 11/16.

The prior post was 11/9.

Post a new V2 after the next crash.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
Hi Zbook,

the mainboard was already removed and wrapped in for RMA.
But I am wondering how further stresstests or V2 could help finding the culprit since there is no initial hardware left than the mainboard.
If a driver is the reason, then it would be visible in the previous logs as well.

I try to follow every possible solution; so I did as you told me before.
But at this point I don't see how further tests and logs might could help. (sorry for critics, but I just can't follow your conclusions)

I do probably not know all facts or reasons you might have, but I would appreciate if you could explain your conclusion.
It will take some time until the RMA will be done.

Thank you so far...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 (22631.4317)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Loop
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900k
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790-F Gaming WIFI II
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR56400 32GBx2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvida Geforce RTX 4070 Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Hard Drives
    Kingston FURY Renegade M.2 2000 GB
    WD Red Pro 8 TB, 3.5", CMR x2
    PSU
    be quiet! Straight Power 12 Platinum 1000 W
    Case
    Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL E-ATX, ATX, mATX, Mini ITX
    Cooling
    Custom Loop Corsair
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Browser
    brave/firefox
Had you run OCCT?

Drivers?

Swap testing is frequently required to identify malfunctioning or incompatible hardware.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4800MQ CPU @ 2.70GHz
    Motherboard
    Product : 190A Version : KBC Version 94.56
    Memory
    16 GB Total: Manufacturer : Samsung MemoryType : DDR3 FormFactor : SODIMM Capacity : 8GB Speed : 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Quadro K3100M; Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    IDT High Definition Audio CODEC; PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_111D&DEV_76E0
    Hard Drives
    Model Hitachi HTS727575A9E364
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender
    Other Info
    Mobile Workstation
No, since the mainboard was already removed .....
Drivers attached from a previous post....
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 (22631.4317)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Loop
    CPU
    Intel i9 14900k
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z790-F Gaming WIFI II
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 DDR56400 32GBx2
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus Nvida Geforce RTX 4070 Ti
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Hard Drives
    Kingston FURY Renegade M.2 2000 GB
    WD Red Pro 8 TB, 3.5", CMR x2
    PSU
    be quiet! Straight Power 12 Platinum 1000 W
    Case
    Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL E-ATX, ATX, mATX, Mini ITX
    Cooling
    Custom Loop Corsair
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Browser
    brave/firefox

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