Screen off (Context Menu Version)

BLzNFuN · Jan 7, 2025

I just downloaded the registry addition (Add "Turn off display" Context Menu in Windows 11) that adds the option to the context menu. However, my laptop has S0 (modern standby) and when I use this, it puts the whole computer to sleep.

Is there an edit I can make to the registry file to only put the monitor to sleep and not the whole computer?

FreeBooter · Jan 7, 2025

The Nirsoft have an executable which can turn off display, below is the command.

NirCmd - Windows command line tool

NirCmd is a small utility that allows you to do many useful tasks from command-line, without displaying any user interface: change your display settings, turn off your monitor, open the door of your CD-ROM drive, and more...

www.nirsoft.net

BLzNFuN · Jan 7, 2025

Unless this is the only way, I would rather do it without extra software.

antspants · Jan 7, 2025

Welcome

When asking for help and receiving it, out of respect for the people that do make an effort to help and make suggestions, the least we can do is review what has been suggested.

If you took the time to investigate the suggestion given, you would find that this program is command line and run as a standalone software. It does not require installation.

This utility is a standalone executable, and it doesn't require any installation process or additional DLLs. just copy the executable to any folder you want, and run it with the desired command-line option, according to your needs.

It's recommended to copy the executable of NirCmd (nircmd.exe) to your windows directory, or to any other folder listed in your PATH environment variable, so you won't need to type the full path of nircmd in each time that you want to use it.
Starting from version 1.50, console version of NirCmd (nircmdc.exe) is also available. In the console version, all error messages goes to the console window, instead of using a message box.

NirCmd - Freeware command-line tool for Windows

I could not tell you if this software would work.

dacrone · Jan 7, 2025

BLzNFuN said:
Unless this is the only way, I would rather do it without extra software.

antspants said:
Welcome

When asking for help and receiving it, out of respect for the people that do make an effort to help and make suggestions, the least we can do is review what has been suggested.

If you took the time to investigate the suggestion given, you would find that this program is command line and run as a standalone software. It does not require installation.

I could not tell you if this software would work.

you just contradicted yourself... in multiple ways.
short answer to OP is, there is only 1 way and that would do it natively, and that is to set a powercfg setting manually via command prompt. but going less than 1 minute (shortest time allowable) requires restarting the pc, which is a moot point based on your request.

Solved - To Change Turn Off Display After Time - in seconds

in windows 10 forum "Change Turn off Display after Time in Windows 10" theres the option 4 im looking for because it allows display to go dark after idle in seconds instead of minimum 1 minute in the power plan (power plan doesn't have seconds). I tried looking for in registry or AC related...

www.eightforums.com

BLzNFuN · Jan 7, 2025

dacrone said:
you just contradicted yourself... in multiple ways.
short answer to OP is, there is only 1 way and that would do it natively, and that is to set a powercfg setting manually via command prompt. but going less than 1 minute (shortest time allowable) requires restarting the pc, which is a moot point based on your request.

Solved - To Change Turn Off Display After Time - in seconds

in windows 10 forum "Change Turn off Display after Time in Windows 10" theres the option 4 im looking for because it allows display to go dark after idle in seconds instead of minimum 1 minute in the power plan (power plan doesn't have seconds). I tried looking for in registry or AC related...

www.eightforums.com

Ah yeah. But I looking for a way to keep the timer in windows to let windows shut the monitor off, but the ability to do it myself if I feel like I just want the screen blank (privacy).

I figured if Windows can do it, its just gotta be a command or something. Looking at the event long, there are "modes" or something that windows tracks. Thought maybe the file was created during a time before S0 state and Windows can sometimes change those event IDs to mean different things from version to version.

I was hoping maybe the creator of the context file would maybe be able to shed some light on it. I've used his stuff across multiple computers and his work is awesome!

antspants · Jan 7, 2025

BLzNFuN said:
I was hoping maybe the creator of the context file would maybe be able to shed some light on it. I've used his stuff across multiple computers and his work is awesome!

You can post comment on all of Brinks tutorial pages.

BLzNFuN · Jan 15, 2025

Shawn, I downloaded the Screen Off (Context Menu) registry file. but when I use it, it makes the computer "sleep" as well. I have S0 enabled, and prefer it so is there a workaround or edit I can make to the registry file for making this registry edit work like the "screen off timer" in windows (aka just shuts the monitor off and not put the computer to sleep)?

Brink · Jan 15, 2025

BLzNFuN said:
Shawn, I downloaded the Screen Off (Context Menu) registry file. but when I use it, it makes the computer "sleep" as well. I have S0 enabled, and prefer it so is there a workaround or edit I can make to the registry file for making this registry edit work like the "screen off timer" in windows (aka just shuts the monitor off and not put the computer to sleep)?

Hello,

Is the computer going to sleep immediately after using the context menu, or after waiting for any amount of time?

Just to confirm, what do you have your sleep timeout below set to?

Change When to Put Computer to Sleep Timeout in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to change when to automatically put the computer to sleep when idle in Windows 11. Sleep uses very little power, your PC starts up faster, and you’re instantly back to where you left off. You don’t have to worry that you'll lose your work because of your battery...

www.elevenforum.com

Try3 · Jan 15, 2025

BLzNFuN said:
Shawn, I downloaded the Screen Off (Context Menu) registry file. but when I use it, it makes the computer "sleep" as well. I have S0 enabled, and prefer it so is there a workaround or edit I can make to the registry file for making this registry edit work like the "screen off timer" in windows (aka just shuts the monitor off and not put the computer to sleep)?

The display going off is what initiates S0 Modern standby.
If you do not want S0 Modern standby to kick in then you must keep the screen on.

I used to achieve this by keeping the display on [power options, turn display off - never] but showing a completely blank screensaver when I chose. That keeps S0 Modern standby at bay.
All it needs is a shortcut to your chosen .scr file.

Denis

dacrone · Jan 15, 2025

you can shut off your display without invoking s0. try this one:

View and modify the settings of your monitor (VCP Features)

View and modify the settings of your monitor (Also known as VCP Features), like brightness, contrast, sharpness, red/green/blue color balance, and more...

www.nirsoft.net

didnt put my test laptop to s0 standby

have not tested this one, but worth a try as well

Sordum Monitor Off v1.1

Sordum monitor off is a portable freeware to help you turn off your monitor in order to save some power, just run executable file to turn off your screen

www.sordum.org

Try3 · Jan 16, 2025

To help with your investigations, you can see records of transitions between power states such as S0 Modern standby in Event logs.
See
Importing EV, CV - my post #23 - ElevenForum
[But note that the abbreviation I used in that post, S0ix, should not have been used].

Denis

hdmi · Jan 16, 2025

dacrone said:
you can shut off your display without invoking s0. try this one:

View and modify the settings of your monitor (VCP Features)

View and modify the settings of your monitor (Also known as VCP Features), like brightness, contrast, sharpness, red/green/blue color balance, and more...

www.nirsoft.net

didnt put my test laptop to s0 standby

Unfortunately, this only works on hardware that supports DDC/CI.

dacrone said:
have not tested this one, but worth a try as well

Sordum Monitor Off v1.1

Sordum monitor off is a portable freeware to help you turn off your monitor in order to save some power, just run executable file to turn off your screen

www.sordum.org

Although I haven't tested it either, I am fairly confident that this will still trigger Modern Standby, as these kinds of small programs are a dime a dozen, and they really do not bring anything new to the old Modern-Standby-table. As a matter of fact, writing such a program that still triggers it is just another piece of cake, see: Add "Turn off display" Context Menu in Windows 11

dacrone · Jan 16, 2025

hdmi said:
Unfortunately, this only works on hardware that supports DDC/CI.

i know it says that, but i used to have a setup with 3 Samsung C24F390 curved monitors and they do not support DDC/CI and it still worked with them.

hdmi · Jan 16, 2025

dacrone said:
i know it says that, but i used to have a setup with 3 Samsung C24F390 curved monitors and they do not support DDC/CI and it still worked with them.

I have absolutely no idea how it could still be able to work without using DDC/CI. On my Sony TV it doesn't list any VCP features at all; it just shows an empty list, and it also shows an error code 31 (in red) on its status bar.

dacrone · Jan 16, 2025

wish i could tell ya.. but i have no clue. i know for a fact those monitors do NOT support it. there are many threads all over complaining about it, but my script to turn off the outside 2 via ControlMyMonitors and activate my screen saver on only the middle monitor worked just fine.

BLzNFuN · Jan 16, 2025

Brink said:
Hello,

Is the computer going to sleep immediately after using the context menu, or after waiting for any amount of time?

Just to confirm, what do you have your sleep timeout below set to?

Change When to Put Computer to Sleep Timeout in Windows 11

This tutorial will show you how to change when to automatically put the computer to sleep when idle in Windows 11. Sleep uses very little power, your PC starts up faster, and you’re instantly back to where you left off. You don’t have to worry that you'll lose your work because of your battery...

www.elevenforum.com

It sleeps with-in a sec or so. Using the windows built in timers does not. I have the timers set for 3 minutes on battery and 5 minutes on A/C. Both battery and A/C act the same way by using the context menu.

Brink · Jan 16, 2025

BLzNFuN said:
It sleeps with-in a sec or so. Using the windows built in timers does not. I have the timers set for 3 minutes on battery and 5 minutes on A/C. Both battery and A/C act the same way by using the context menu.

As an alternative, you can try the context menu version below instead to see if it may work better for you. Be sure to remove this context menu before using the one below.

Turn Off Display cascading context menu - Add in Windows

How to Add or Remove 'Turn off display' cascading context menu in Windows

www.tenforums.com

dacrone · Jan 17, 2025

hdmi said:
I have absolutely no idea how it could still be able to work without using DDC/CI. On my Sony TV it doesn't list any VCP features at all; it just shows an empty list, and it also shows an error code 31 (in red) on its status bar.

forgot to post back. so for the samsung monitors that do not have DDC/CI, this batch works to turn them off (without invoking any sleep)

Code:

echo off
cmd.exe /C
controlmymonitor.exe /SetValue \\.\DISPLAY2\Monitor0 D6 4

johnlgalt · Jan 17, 2025

dacrone said:
i know it says that, but i used to have a setup with 3 Samsung C24F390 curved monitors and they do not support DDC/CI and it still worked with them.

Uhhh, this post might shed a bit of light on your monitors:

Samsung Curved Monitor No DDC/CI · Issue #140 · rockowitz/ddcutil

FibroJedi Samsung CF390 Monitor Interrogate Output.txt Hey, So I just switched to Linux and all bar one thing is working fine: DDC/CI. Monitor: Samsung CF390 (FYI this is attacked by HDMI to my lap...

github.com

However in Linux, ddcutil says the monitor is in the database but DDC/CI is not active. While I agree it's not active, it should be possible to activate it. And in Linux I don't know what I'm doing with this one. Hope you can help. From what little I've managed to follow here's some output.

Seems it actually was supposed support DDC/CI. And that user was able to use SoftMCCS (which I also have) and a DDC app to control it.

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