Solved Separate partitions for software and content files?


Inateck got you covered in case of m.2 nvme drive that you want to put into an external enclosure. 😄
 

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Friends: After all this learning, I've decided to leave OS, apps, and files on Disk 1:

Changed my mind. Did major disk surgery last night and here's the results.

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Because Google isn’t getting within 5000 miles of my files.
In fact zero cloud for me ever.

FreeFileSync is local.

A quick update. I've taken your concern about having my files on a cloud server to heart, and I no longer do it. There's a strange relationship between this and recent happenings at 23-and-Me. That company has been experiencing financial problems that bring into question the privacy of the millions of sequenced DNA files they maintain. It's all about questioning one's assumptions, isn't it?

Bought a Synology DS224+ NAS and have been having a blast with it, especially in combination with FreeFileSync (what a great program)! Now I'm thinking about how to backup a backup of up to 12TB. Will probably go to a large external HDD, but haven't acted on it yet. Thanks again for the great advice.
 

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    System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
    Pen and touch Touch support with 10 touch points
I have not read every post in this thread, so apologies if anything is repetitive.

I keep going back and forth with the thought of making 2 separate partitions. I hate dividing a drive up like that because I feel like I am wasting space. I am forced to make my C: drive larger than I need for fear that I may run out of space eventually, so picking that optimal partition size is a guessing game. On the other hand, I do partition the drive into multiple partitions because I don't need all my data backed up along with the C: drive because, like @antspants, I use FreeFileSysnc to copy that data elsewhere and I use the File and Folder backups of Reflect to back that data up separately.

However, there is a great solution now, at least for me: Macrium Reflect X. Apparently, one of the features is that you can FINALLY exclude folders from the backup. That allows the flexibility of placing data on the C: partition without having to back it up in your image backups. I have not upgraded yet, but I definitely plan to do so soon.
 

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    Intel i7 11700K
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    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
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    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
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    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
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    Integrated
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    HP Envy 32
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    2560 x 1440
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    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
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    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
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    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
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    Win11 Pro 23H2
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    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
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    Intel i7-1255U
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    16 GB
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    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
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    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
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    13.3-inch IPS Display
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    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
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    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
I have not read every post in this thread, so apologies if anything is repetitive.

I keep going back and forth with the thought of making 2 separate partitions. I hate dividing a drive up like that because I feel like I am wasting space. I am forced to make my C: drive larger than I need for fear that I may run out of space eventually, so picking that optimal partition size is a guessing game. On the other hand, I do partition the drive into multiple partitions because I don't need all my data backed up along with the C: drive because, like @antspants, I use FreeFileSysnc to copy that data elsewhere and I use the File and Folder backups of Reflect to back that data up separately.

However, there is a great solution now, at least for me: Macrium Reflect X. Apparently, one of the features is that you can FINALLY exclude folders from the backup. That allows the flexibility of placing data on the C: partition without having to back it up in your image backups. I have not upgraded yet, but I definitely plan to do so soon.

Damn. I just paid for lifetime licenses for Todo Backup. Progress, I guess.
 

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    Win 11 Pro 24H2 (OS Build 26100.2894)
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    This laptop is an HP 840
    CPU
    i7-1360p 2.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP Model 8B41 KBC Version 51.40.00
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio; Intel® Smart Sound Technology for Bluetooth® Audio; Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio Intel® Smart Sound Technology for Digital Microphones
    Monitor(s) Displays
    as outfitted
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    1920 x 1200 (as recommended)
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    one SSD 1TB
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    Processor 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1360P 2.20 GHz
    Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.6 GB usable)
    Product ID 00355-61334-62672-AAOEM
    System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
    Pen and touch Touch support with 10 touch points
Damn. I just paid for lifetime licenses for Todo Backup. Progress, I guess.
Don't despair! There is another to do this. Assuming that Todo Backup uses Microsoft VSS (Volume Shadow Service), there is a registry entry that can be set to exclude folders from VSS. I'm not near my main system right now, but I'll look for it when I'm back. Give it a try to see if that helps.

When I first tested it, I simply created a test folder like C:\Testing, then added the registry entry, and finally chaecked my backup to see if that folder was present.

It's just not as easy as being built into the product. In addition, some programs don't necessarily use VSS. My understanding is that they may use their own equivalent of VSS.

I'll send you that info later.
 

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    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
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    HP Envy 32
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    2560 x 1440
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    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
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    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
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    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
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    Intel i7-1255U
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    16 GB
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    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
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    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
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    13.3-inch IPS Display
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    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
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    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
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    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
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    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
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    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
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    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
I have not read every post in this thread, so apologies if anything is repetitive.

I keep going back and forth with the thought of making 2 separate partitions. I hate dividing a drive up like that because I feel like I am wasting space. I am forced to make my C: drive larger than I need for fear that I may run out of space eventually, so picking that optimal partition size is a guessing game. On the other hand, I do partition the drive into multiple partitions because I don't need all my data backed up along with the C: drive because, like @antspants, I use FreeFileSysnc to copy that data elsewhere and I use the File and Folder backups of Reflect to back that data up separately.

However, there is a great solution now, at least for me: Macrium Reflect X. Apparently, one of the features is that you can FINALLY exclude folders from the backup. That allows the flexibility of placing data on the C: partition without having to back it up in your image backups. I have not upgraded yet, but I definitely plan to do so soon.
Yes, wasted space costs more money. But no, it doesn't cost more money than Macrium Reflect X, and besides, I excluded files and folders with wildcards before it was cool.
 

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    16GB DDR5
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    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840×2160
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    2TB SSD internal
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    Logitech K800
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
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@TonyCzar,

Here are my notes on excluding folders from a VSS snapshot that I referenced earlier along with a sample batch file:

---------------
To prevent specific folders from being snapshotted by VSS, which in turn prevents them from being backed up by an image backup, navigate to this location in the registry with regedit.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshot\

Add a new Multi-String Value:

Value Name : Volume Shadow Copy Data
Value Data : C:\Virtual Machines\*.* /S

The example above excludes C:\Virtual Machines from being snapshotted along with all files and subfolders.

IMPORTANT: You MUST always include an entry for $AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s to prevent the snapshots themselves from being backed up, resulting in very large backups.

NOTE: Add one entry per line for the value and do not enclose the path in quotes even if the path has spaces in the name.

To do this from the command, use the command below as an example.

NOTE: Do this from an elevated command prompt or a batch file run elevated. If you need to add multiple lines, separate each line item with a \0. In the example below we are adding three lines. The first is for the mandatory entry noted above, the second is for C:\My Data\*.* /S and the third is C:\Project\*.* /S.

REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshot" /v "Volume Shadow Copy Data" /t REG_MULTI_SZ /d "$AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s\0C:\My Data\*.* /S\0C:\Project\*.* /S" /f

Note: In place of $AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s you can also use $AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*{3808876B-C176-4e48-B7AE-04046E6CC752} /s

Reference:


Sample Batch File

Batch:
@echo off
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
setlocal enableextensions
cd /d %~dp0

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: Check to see if this batch file is being run as Administrator. If it is not, then rerun the batch file ::
:: automatically as admin and terminate the intial instance of the batch file.                            ::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

(Fsutil Dirty Query %SystemDrive%>Nul)||(PowerShell start """%~f0""" -verb RunAs & Exit /B)

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: End Routine to check if being run as Admin ::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

REM ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
REM :: If you want to add multiple lines, separate each line with a "\0". Here is an example adding                                                                               ::
REM :: "C:\My Data\*.* /S" and "C:\Project\*.* /S" each on its own line.                                                                                                          ::
REM ::                                                                                                                                                                            ::
REM :: REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshot" /v "Volume Shadow Copy Data" /t REG_MULTI_SZ /d "C:\My Data\*.* /S\0C:\Project\*.* /S" /f ::
REM ::                                                                                                                                                                            ::
REM :: For Macrium Reflect, use the key name of "FilesNotToSnapshotMacriumImage" rather than "FilesNotToSnapshot". Also, be aware that you MUST include an entry for              ::
REM :: "$AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s" to avoid having the snapshot itself get backed up. The sample above omits this entry to keep the line shorter, but it is a ::
REM :: MANDATORY entry.                                                                                                                                                           ::
REM ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshotMacriumImage" /v "Volume Shadow Copy Data" /t REG_MULTI_SZ /d "$AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s\0C:\My Data\*.* /S\0C:\Virtual Machines\*.* /S" /f
 

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    Win11 Pro 24H2
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    Self-built
    CPU
    Intel i7 11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
    Memory
    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    3 x 512GB 2.5" SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    5 x 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Home Computer Specifications, Configuration, and Usage Notes General Specifications ASUS Prime Z590-A motherboard, serial number M1M0KC222467ARP Intel Core i7-11700K CPU (11th Gen Rocket Lake / LGA 1200 Socket) 128GB Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4 3200 MHz DRAM (4 x 32GB) Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black CPU cooler Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Corsair LL-120 RGB Fans (Qty. 3)
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
  • Operating System
    Win11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
    CPU
    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
    Screen Resolution
    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
    Hard Drives
    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
    PSU
    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
@TonyCzar,

Here are my notes on excluding folders from a VSS snapshot that I referenced earlier along with a sample batch file:

---------------
To prevent specific folders from being snapshotted by VSS, which in turn prevents them from being backed up by an image backup, navigate to this location in the registry with regedit.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshot\

Add a new Multi-String Value:

Value Name : Volume Shadow Copy Data
Value Data : C:\Virtual Machines\*.* /S

The example above excludes C:\Virtual Machines from being snapshotted along with all files and subfolders.

IMPORTANT: You MUST always include an entry for $AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s to prevent the snapshots themselves from being backed up, resulting in very large backups.

NOTE: Add one entry per line for the value and do not enclose the path in quotes even if the path has spaces in the name.

To do this from the command, use the command below as an example.

NOTE: Do this from an elevated command prompt or a batch file run elevated. If you need to add multiple lines, separate each line item with a \0. In the example below we are adding three lines. The first is for the mandatory entry noted above, the second is for C:\My Data\*.* /S and the third is C:\Project\*.* /S.

REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshot" /v "Volume Shadow Copy Data" /t REG_MULTI_SZ /d "$AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s\0C:\My Data\*.* /S\0C:\Project\*.* /S" /f

Note: In place of $AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s you can also use $AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*{3808876B-C176-4e48-B7AE-04046E6CC752} /s

Reference:


Sample Batch File

Batch:
@echo off
setlocal enabledelayedexpansion
setlocal enableextensions
cd /d %~dp0

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: Check to see if this batch file is being run as Administrator. If it is not, then rerun the batch file ::
:: automatically as admin and terminate the intial instance of the batch file.                            ::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

(Fsutil Dirty Query %SystemDrive%>Nul)||(PowerShell start """%~f0""" -verb RunAs & Exit /B)

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
:: End Routine to check if being run as Admin ::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

REM ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
REM :: If you want to add multiple lines, separate each line with a "\0". Here is an example adding                                                                               ::
REM :: "C:\My Data\*.* /S" and "C:\Project\*.* /S" each on its own line.                                                                                                          ::
REM ::                                                                                                                                                                            ::
REM :: REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshot" /v "Volume Shadow Copy Data" /t REG_MULTI_SZ /d "C:\My Data\*.* /S\0C:\Project\*.* /S" /f ::
REM ::                                                                                                                                                                            ::
REM :: For Macrium Reflect, use the key name of "FilesNotToSnapshotMacriumImage" rather than "FilesNotToSnapshot". Also, be aware that you MUST include an entry for              ::
REM :: "$AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s" to avoid having the snapshot itself get backed up. The sample above omits this entry to keep the line shorter, but it is a ::
REM :: MANDATORY entry.                                                                                                                                                           ::
REM ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

REG ADD "HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\BackupRestore\FilesNotToSnapshotMacriumImage" /v "Volume Shadow Copy Data" /t REG_MULTI_SZ /d "$AllVolumes$\System Volume Information\*.* /s\0C:\My Data\*.* /S\0C:\Virtual Machines\*.* /S" /f
As much as I hate to rain on your parade, this is still very poorly engineered when compared to what I have already been using for years.
  • It cannot delete files from shadow copies for shared folders.
  • Files are deleted from a shadow copy on a best-effort basis. This means that they are not guaranteed to be deleted.
In addition, let's not forget what happens to your strategy of excluding the folders if you try to use the Macrium Rescue Environment boot media to create your new image, which tends to be important due to the fact that snapshots aren't backups so, hot images aren't backups of the entire Windows partition while Windows is still actively running on this same Windows partition.
 

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    11 Home
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
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    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
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    Li-ion
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    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
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    Logitech K800
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    Logitech G402
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    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
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    FF
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    Medion S15450
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    i5 1135G7
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    16GB DDR4
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    Intel Iris Xe
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    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
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    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
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    3840×2160
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    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
The files I generate are backed up continuously using Carbonite, so including them in nightly backups is unnecessary. I'm thinking about putting those files on a separate partition. Anyone have experience or wisdom to offer? tyia
That is what I do. I redirect my user, documents, photos, etc. to a different "data" partition on the same disk using windows settings. I also redirect certain other data files, such as my Firefox browser and Thunderbird profiles' data to that partition using junctions. I have a third partition that I direct "volatile" data like Firefox cache, Photoshop caches, etc using junctions or through the app's settings.

I backup the C: partition regularly with macrium reflect.
The data partition is backed up with a script using Xcopy MIR.
The volatile partition is not backed up.

Made sense to me to separate the data this way.
Since most data is not on the c: drive, I can back it up, compressed and 128 bit encrypted, in less than 30 seconds, and I do it frequently. Restore takes even less time (excluding the reboot Time.

Data partition is incremental to two different external hard drives. Since it usually doesn't change much, it also takes littke time, but more than C: because the destination is hard dives.

Sounds complicated but it really isn't. Run Macrium profile to backup system, script to backup data.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro x64
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    DIY Photoshop/Audio/Game/tinker build
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    Intel i9 13900KS P/E cores 5.7/4.4 GHz, cache 5.0 GHz
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    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
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    96GB (2x48) G.skill Ripjaws 6800 MT/s
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    Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
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    Bowers & Wilkins 606 S3 speakers; Audiolabs 7000a integrated amp; Logan Martin Sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
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    Eizo CG2730 ColorEdge, ViewSonic VP2768
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    2560 x 1440p x 2
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    WDC SN850X 4TB nvme, SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme, Raid 0: 1TB 850 EVO + 1TB 860 EVO SSD. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black HDD
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    850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850 ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0
    Case
    Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
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    EKWB 360 Nucleus Dark AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 1 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fan, 1 T30-120 fan cooling memory
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    Keychron Q3 Max TKL with custom GMK Redsuns Red Samuri keycaps, TX Stabs
    Mouse
    Logitech G305 wireless gaming
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender, Macrium Reflect X ;-)
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    Runs hot. LOL. SP: P116/E93/M93
    Phangkey Amaterasu V2 Desk Mat
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
    Firefox
As much as I hate to rain on your parade, this is still very poorly engineered when compared to what I have already been using for years.
  • It cannot delete files from shadow copies for shared folders.
  • Files are deleted from a shadow copy on a best-effort basis. This means that they are not guaranteed to be deleted.
In addition, let's not forget what happens to your strategy of excluding the folders if you try to use the Macrium Rescue Environment boot media to create your new image, which tends to be important due to the fact that snapshots aren't backups so, hot images aren't backups of the entire Windows partition while Windows is still actively running on this same Windows partition.
While true, this works for me. That is all I care about :-).
 

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
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    PC/Desktop
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    Self-built
    CPU
    Intel i7 11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
    Memory
    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
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    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
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    Integrated
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    HP Envy 32
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    2560 x 1440
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    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    3 x 512GB 2.5" SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    5 x 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
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    Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case
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    Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Home Computer Specifications, Configuration, and Usage Notes General Specifications ASUS Prime Z590-A motherboard, serial number M1M0KC222467ARP Intel Core i7-11700K CPU (11th Gen Rocket Lake / LGA 1200 Socket) 128GB Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4 3200 MHz DRAM (4 x 32GB) Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black CPU cooler Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Corsair LL-120 RGB Fans (Qty. 3)
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    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
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    Logitech MX Master 3
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    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
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    Edge
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    Windows Defender
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    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
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    Win11 Pro 23H2
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    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
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    Intel i7-1255U
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    16 GB
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    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
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    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
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    13.3-inch IPS Display
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    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
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    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
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    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
    Mouse
    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
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    Windows Defender
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    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
That is what I do. I redirect my user, documents, photos, etc. to a different "data" partition on the same disk using windows settings. I also redirect certain other data files, such as my Firefox browser and Thunderbird profiles' data to that partition using junctions. I have a third partition that I direct "volatile" data like Firefox cache, Photoshop caches, etc using junctions or through the app's settings.

I backup the C: partition regularly with macrium reflect.
The data partition is backed up with a script using Xcopy MIR.
The volatile partition is not backed up.

Made sense to me to separate the data this way.
Since most data is not on the c: drive, I can back it up, compressed and 128 bit encrypted, in less than 30 seconds, and I do it frequently. Restore takes even less time (excluding the reboot Time.

Data partition is incremental to two different external hard drives. Since it usually doesn't change much, it also takes littke time, but more than C: because the destination is hard dives.

Sounds complicated but it really isn't. Run Macrium profile to backup system, script to backup data.

Well I love this dive into the Learning Pool. All this generates another question. Assume my Documents files are in a separate partition on the drive containing C:. EaseUS Todo Backup allows me to select which partitions on a drive will be backed up, as per the example below. Now if the backup image does not contain all the partitions on the drive, will that complicate the restoration of that drive as required for Recovery?

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    Win 11 Pro 24H2 (OS Build 26100.2894)
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    This laptop is an HP 840
    CPU
    i7-1360p 2.20 GHz
    Motherboard
    HP Model 8B41 KBC Version 51.40.00
    Memory
    32 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel® Iris® Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio; Intel® Smart Sound Technology for Bluetooth® Audio; Intel® Smart Sound Technology for USB Audio Intel® Smart Sound Technology for Digital Microphones
    Monitor(s) Displays
    as outfitted
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 (as recommended)
    Hard Drives
    one SSD 1TB
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    as outfitted
    Internet Speed
    800MB/sec up & down
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes
    Other Info
    Device name REC-840
    Processor 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-1360P 2.20 GHz
    Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.6 GB usable)
    Product ID 00355-61334-62672-AAOEM
    System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
    Pen and touch Touch support with 10 touch points
Now if the backup image does not contain all the partitions on the drive, will that complicate the restoration of that drive as required for Recovery?
I think that if you were to do a restore you would just be overwriting the C: partition. I sure you do, but I'll mention it anyway. Make sure you have up to date images of all of your partitions. :-)
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
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    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech K270
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    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
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    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
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    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
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    1920x1080
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    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
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    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I have not read every post in this thread, so apologies if anything is repetitive.

I keep going back and forth with the thought of making 2 separate partitions. I hate dividing a drive up like that because I feel like I am wasting space. I am forced to make my C: drive larger than I need for fear that I may run out of space eventually, so picking that optimal partition size is a guessing game. On the other hand, I do partition the drive into multiple partitions because I don't need all my data backed up along with the C: drive because, like @antspants, I use FreeFileSysnc to copy that data elsewhere and I use the File and Folder backups of Reflect to back that data up separately.

However, there is a great solution now, at least for me: Macrium Reflect X. Apparently, one of the features is that you can FINALLY exclude folders from the backup. That allows the flexibility of placing data on the C: partition without having to back it up in your image backups. I have not upgraded yet, but I definitely plan to do so soon.
Be VERY careful - the folder gets backed up but not the data in it.

When you restore the image, the empty folder gets restored and ALL the existing data is deleted.

I suspected that and tested it on a test folder with some junk files, and they did get deleted upon a restore.

This is exactly same as happens now if you back up an empty folder and put some data in afterwards. The same happens - on restore the latest data gets wiped.

If you do not want the data to be deleted, put it on a drive not to be backed up.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
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    Laptop
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    ASUS Zenbook 14
    CPU
    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
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    Yep, Laptop has one.
    Memory
    16 GB soldered
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    Integrated Intel Iris XE
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    Realtek built in
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    laptop OLED screen
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    2880x1800 touchscreen
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    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
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    Yep, got one
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    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
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    Built in UK keybd
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    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
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    Defender
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    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
Be VERY careful - the folder gets backed up but not the data in it.

When you restore the image, the empty folder gets restored and ALL the existing data is deleted.

I suspected that and tested it on a test folder with some junk files, and they did get deleted upon a restore.

This is exactly same as happens now if you back up an empty folder and put some data in afterwards. The same happens - on restore the latest data gets wiped.

If you do not want the data to be deleted, put it on a drive not to be backed up.
It's a disk image backup, so of course if you restore an image with files not present it's going to not include those files.

Put another way - when you restore a disk image ALL DATA on the disk is deleted, including the data that you backed up, and then it is replaced with the data contained in the backup.

I kinda thought that was intuitively obvious but I forgot that it may not be so for some so my apologies for not making that clear.

Thanks for pointing that out.
 

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  • OS
    Win11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-built
    CPU
    Intel i7 11700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Prime Z590-A MB
    Memory
    64GB (Waiting for warranty replacement of another 64GB for 128GB total)
    Graphics Card(s)
    No GPU - Built-in Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Integrated
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP Envy 32
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1 x 1TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 2TB NVMe SSD
    1 x 4TB NVMe SSD
    3 x 512GB 2.5" SSD
    1 x 4TB 2.5" SSD
    5 x 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD
    PSU
    Corsair HX850i
    Case
    Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case
    Cooling
    Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Home Computer Specifications, Configuration, and Usage Notes General Specifications ASUS Prime Z590-A motherboard, serial number M1M0KC222467ARP Intel Core i7-11700K CPU (11th Gen Rocket Lake / LGA 1200 Socket) 128GB Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4 3200 MHz DRAM (4 x 32GB) Corsair iCUE RGB 5000X mid tower case Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black CPU cooler Noctua NF-S12A chromax.black.swap case fans (Qty. 7) & Corsair LL-120 RGB Fans (Qty. 3)
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 Max RGB Magnetic Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1 Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    The five 8TB drives and three 512GB SSDs are part of a DrivePool using StableBit DrivePool software. The three SSDs are devoted purely to caching for the 8TB drives. All of the important data is stored in triplicate so that I can withstand simultaneous failure of 2 disks.

    Networking: 2.5Gbps Ethernet and WiFi 6e
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    Win11 Pro 23H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkBook 13x Gen 2
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    Intel i7-1255U
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC3306-CG codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    13.3-inch IPS Display
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    WQXGA (2560 x 1600)
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    2 TB 4 x 4 NVMe SSD
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    USB-C / Thunderbolt 4 Power / Charging
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    Buttonless Glass Precision Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, spill resistant keyboard
    Internet Speed
    1Gb Up / 1Gb Down
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    WiFi 6e / Bluetooth 5.1 / Facial Recognition / Fingerprint Sensor / ToF (Time of Flight) Human Presence Sensor
Well I love this dive into the Learning Pool. All this generates another question. Assume my Documents files are in a separate partition on the drive containing C:. EaseUS Todo Backup allows me to select which partitions on a drive will be backed up, as per the example below. Now if the backup image does not contain all the partitions on the drive, will that complicate the restoration of that drive as required for Recovery?

View attachment 114857

For most things no. Junctions and Windows settings will still work afterword a restore. Here is an example where an issue can come up, but it is easy to fix:

I have a junction for my Firefox and Thunderbird profiles to my e: partition. For instance, here is my C: junction for firefox:

Code:
C:\Users\Gene\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla      Junction E:\Gene\Mozilla-data\Appdata\Roaming\Mozilla

The reason that I do this is to preserve my current email and email state and my current browsing state across C: restores. Also that storage is moved off the C drive to E for faster C backups.

Now if I update Firefox and then restore C: from a backup with an older version of firefox, firefox may refuse to start. This is because the update may have changed something in the data on E:. like the format of something for example. This is easy to rectify by downloading and installing the newer version of Firefox and I'm off. Since I rarely put myself in this situation, it is worth it to me.

All other things like user documents, downloads, pictures, etc. folders. can be relocated through the folder's properties-> location. Windows fully support this and there are no issues with such relocation.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY Photoshop/Audio/Game/tinker build
    CPU
    Intel i9 13900KS P/E cores 5.7/4.4 GHz, cache 5.0 GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Maximus Z790 Dark Hero
    Memory
    96GB (2x48) G.skill Ripjaws 6800 MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    Asus ROG Strix 4070 Ti OC
    Sound Card
    Bowers & Wilkins 606 S3 speakers; Audiolabs 7000a integrated amp; Logan Martin Sub; Creative Pebble Pro Minimilist
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Eizo CG2730 ColorEdge, ViewSonic VP2768
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440p x 2
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850X 4TB nvme, SN850 1TB nvme, SK-Hynix 2 TB P41 nvme, Raid 0: 1TB 850 EVO + 1TB 860 EVO SSD. Sabrent USB-C DS-SC5B 5-bay docking station: 6TB WDC Black, 6TB Ironwolf Pro; 2x 2TB WDC Black HDD
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    850W Seasonic Vertex PX-850 ATX 3.0/PCI-E 5.0
    Case
    Fractal Design North XL Mesh, Black Walnut
    Cooling
    EKWB 360 Nucleus Dark AIO w/Phanteks T30-120 fans, 1 Noctua NF-A14 Chromax case fan, 1 T30-120 fan cooling memory
    Keyboard
    Keychron Q3 Max TKL with custom GMK Redsuns Red Samuri keycaps, TX Stabs
    Mouse
    Logitech G305 wireless gaming
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s down, 12 Mb/s up
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender, Macrium Reflect X ;-)
    Other Info
    Runs hot. LOL. SP: P116/E93/M93
    Phangkey Amaterasu V2 Desk Mat
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple 13" Macbook Pro 2020 (m1)
    CPU
    Apple M1
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1600
    Browser
    Firefox
Now if the backup image does not contain all the partitions on the drive, will that complicate the restoration of that drive as required for Recovery?
Tony I've never done Todo so have no familiarity with it or how it describes its tasks. Though not all are equal in features, most backup/imaging software works the same way in principal. If you create an image of your entire system disk and restore that image , some softwares will restore all partitions by default, others allow you to select only the partitions you want to restore. Likewise some softwares allow for individual partition backups so if partition backup was restored it would restore only the one partition to wherever the user directs it to. Some softwares also allow for individual folder backups, but not all of them.

My practice is to ALWAYS image my entire system drive including all partitions. Though I can choose to restore only a single partition from within the system image, as a norm, when I restore that image, I restore ALL partitions.

I originally chose to move all my personal folders to a partition on my slower secondary drive which was a mistake for me and the way I use my system.. I had this large, fast system drive with only a fraction of its space being utilized and I had to make 2 backups instead of one to cover both my OS and user data. So I moved all the folders back to C:\users. Now, I'm a one and done when doing backups. Instead, I began the practice of offloading stuff I didn't access often but wanted to keep for whatever reason to a folder I call Archived Data located on the secondary drive instead.. I have this secondary drive as one single partition so I am able to utilize all its space for all this archived stuff.. There's nothing on this partition that is critical and nothing I can't live without if the secondary drive were to fail. While I do image this partition a couple of times a year, it makes no sense to regularly backup huge amounts of non-critical data that rarely changes, that's unimportant, and has nothing to do with the OS or my important data.

Though this thread is about partitioning, I feel one should consider other things as well in making his decisions about his partitioning because in some way, whether directly or indirectly, everything relates. How much disk space one has and best utilization of that space, the speed of one's disks, how much and the importance of the personal data one has, how much storage one has for his images, how large one's images will be, if one is concerned about the time it takes to make the images, even the types of drives ones uses.....and how complex one wants his partitioning scheme and backup routines to be. No one size fits all. Me, I'm a KISS kind of gal.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2314
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 7080
    CPU
    i9-10900 10 core 20 threads
    Motherboard
    DELL 0J37VM
    Memory
    32 gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    none-Intel UHD Graphics 630
    Sound Card
    Integrated Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    1tb Solidigm m.2 nvme+256gb SKHynix m.2 nvme /External drives 512gb Samsung m.2 sata+1tb Kingston m2.nvme+ 4gb Solidigm nvme
    PSU
    500w
    Case
    MT
    Cooling
    Dell Premium
    Keyboard
    Logitech wired
    Mouse
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    so slow I'm too embarrassed to tell
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender+MWB Premium
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    Windows 10 Pro 22H2 19045.3930
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Optiplex 9020
    CPU
    i7-4770
    Memory
    24 gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Benq 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
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Tony I've never done Todo so have no familiarity with it or how it describes its tasks. Though not all are equal in features, most backup/imaging software works the same way in principal. If you create an image of your entire system disk and restore that image , some softwares will restore all partitions by default, others allow you to select only the partitions you want to restore. Likewise some softwares allow for individual partition backups so if partition backup was restored it would restore only the one partition to wherever the user directs it to. Some softwares also allow for individual folder backups, but not all of them.

My practice is to ALWAYS image my entire system drive including all partitions. Though I can choose to restore only a single partition from within the system image, as a norm, when I restore that image, I restore ALL partitions.

I originally chose to move all my personal folders to a partition on my slower secondary drive which was a mistake for me and the way I use my system.. I had this large, fast system drive with only a fraction of its space being utilized and I had to make 2 backups instead of one to cover both my OS and user data. So I moved all the folders back to C:\users. Now, I'm a one and done when doing backups. Instead, I began the practice of offloading stuff I didn't access often but wanted to keep for whatever reason to a folder I call Archived Data located on the secondary drive instead.. I have this secondary drive as one single partition so I am able to utilize all its space for all this archived stuff.. There's nothing on this partition that is critical and nothing I can't live without if the secondary drive were to fail. While I do image this partition a couple of times a year, it makes no sense to regularly backup huge amounts of non-critical data that rarely changes, that's unimportant, and has nothing to do with the OS or my important data.

Though this thread is about partitioning, I feel one should consider other things as well in making his decisions about his partitioning because in some way, whether directly or indirectly, everything relates. How much disk space one has and best utilization of that space, the speed of one's disks, how much and the importance of the personal data one has, how much storage one has for his images, how large one's images will be, if one is concerned about the time it takes to make the images, even the types of drives ones uses.....and how complex one wants his partitioning scheme and backup routines to be. No one size fits all. Me, I'm a KISS kind of gal.

So it sounds like I've travelled the same path. I'm hearing that I should not try to save backup space/energy by chosing to backup only system partitions. Correct? (I'm almost sure that what you all are saying, but it's late and my brain is firing on less than all ten cylinders.)
 

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LOL. II'm not exactly sure of you question either.
Assume my Documents files are in a separate partition on the drive containing C:. EaseUS Todo Backup allows me to select which partitions on a drive will be backed up, as per the example below. Now if the backup image does not contain all the partitions on the drive, will that complicate the restoration of that drive as required for Recovery?
Under this asssumption, all your OS partitions and the partition containing your data are on the same drive. Also under the assumption is that the drive where you store your images is large enough to hold several images and image storage space is not a factor, I suggest you image the ENTIRE drive. (all partitions on the drive OS and data)

My reasoning is simplification and knowing both OS and data backup is current. Doing it this way allows you to recover just the OS if necessary , just the DATA, if necessary, OR the entire drive, if necessary....all from the one image. (I checked. Easeus ToDo can it all. I was impressed when I looked at all the paid version of ToDo can do)

Yes, of course, your images are larger by doing it this way, so if your storage space on the drive where you store your images is not large enough to maintain several full system images, you might be forced to alter your backup plan.

Not from any personal experience but from what others here have reported in other threads, imaging with Easeus ToDo is fairly fast (though not as fast as Macrium)but the testing was probably done with the free version and not the paid. I tried the paid once, and it's interface is what turned me off and it was for no other reason than I didn't take the time to learn it. It just wasn't familiar to me like Macrium was. (The old old dog, new tricks kind of thing) It's all about what you are comfortable with using and a number of folks here use ToDo and like it.

Not to confuse you, but this old 5 page thread purportedly was started by a user who worked for Easeus and he asked for this forum members opinions. Keep in mind it dates to 2022 so Easeus has probably addressed some of the issues by now. It impressed me that they would come to us for opinions. I'm referencing it because I know you like to be informed. Macrium Reflect vs. EaseUS Todo Backup Home
 

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    Dell Optiplex 9020
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    24 gb
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    256 gb Toshiba BG4 M.2 NVE SSB and 1 tb hdd
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While true, this works for me. That is all I care about :-).
All I basically care about is that something only works for me until it turns out that it doesn't, and about what are things that I can do to mitigate the potential risk of falling victim to that, i.e. while still also trying to take all the various pros and cons reasonably into account. The definition of "reasonably" here undoubtedly depends on who you ask, but personally, I, don't believe in Black Magic. This is in spite of the fact that the people who might stumble across this thread in the future are still free to believe in whatever they want. If they choose to believe that home fire insurances aren't necessary because their house has never been on fire, then so be it........ :-)
 

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    11 Home
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    16GB DDR5
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    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
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    Medion S15450
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    Intel Iris Xe
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