StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

Get the latest version here Download

Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download



01 - Welcome.png
02 - Start Menu.png
04 - Taskbar.png
05 - Explorer.png
06 - Advanced.png
Get
 
Any changelog of these two versions............?? :cool:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air
StartAllBack v3.6.9.4701

- Fixed shutdown reason tracker not working with Win+X shutdown

- [Dev] Added Copilot (preview) button

- [Dev, Canary] Fixed MS taskbar telemetry crashes

- [Dev] Fixed pin to start menu not working

- [Canary] Fixed menus on ARM64

- Dark Magic improvements
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
StartAllBack 3.6.10.4705 25 July 2023

Changes:


Fixed Task View not visible in taskbar context menu
Fixed too long Widget texts

Dark Magic 3.6.10 changes:

Removed tabs restyle for now
Improved ribbon flyouts rounding / animation
Forced dark titlebars/controls for dark themes
Fixed some bugs
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
Is there any way to properly back up my settings so when I format setting up the start bar doesn't take me 20minutes every time? I try diff windows all the time etc.
If not, please add this function. I have tried backing up any registry keys and user local data for it and restoring it but it did nothing.

I'll buy a license the second I'm able to back up the settings even though right now it's basically free.

Also please make it so we can have more than 30 items in the menu, on large resolutions the start bar is so small and could fit a lot more on it if it were bigger, 30 is not enough I would say 40 or 45.
Also, I am trying to add classic paint and pin it, but when I do, it puts a (2) on the name, as if it already exists:
1690550359142.png

I know I can just rename it and carry on with life but just wanted to report this and maybe find out why it happened or how it could be fixed. It does not happen with any other .exe

For reference I am on build:
1690552594052.png

While I am here, some feedback:
1690552869245.png
"This will restore all settings to default, are you sure? Y/N"
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 [22H2] [22621.2428]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Culture-Virus v7.0
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC CQ27G2U/BK
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    M.2 1: Samsung SSD 990 PRO 2TB
    M.2 2: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X SHIFT
    Case
    Phanteks NV9
    Cooling
    Custom Water / Direct-Die Cooling
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    ROCCAT LEADR Optical
    Internet Speed
    500mb Direct Fiber
    Browser
    Chrome
please add this function.

please make it so we can have more than 30 items in the menu

While I am here, some feedback:
This is just a place for users to discuss StartAllBack, post info about updates, and so forth. To contact the developer (to report an issue or request an enhancement) I believe the correct location is here:

 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10/11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer
This is just a place for users to discuss StartAllBack, post info about updates, and so forth. To contact the developer (to report an issue or request an enhancement) I believe the correct location is here:

Oh I thought that guy was the developer posting updates.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 [22H2] [22621.2428]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Culture-Virus v7.0
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC CQ27G2U/BK
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    M.2 1: Samsung SSD 990 PRO 2TB
    M.2 2: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X SHIFT
    Case
    Phanteks NV9
    Cooling
    Custom Water / Direct-Die Cooling
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    ROCCAT LEADR Optical
    Internet Speed
    500mb Direct Fiber
    Browser
    Chrome
... I am trying to add classic paint and pin it, but when I do, it puts a (2) on the name, as if it already exists:
Most likely it does already exist. Winaero does it on purpose so the two can reside side by side in System32...

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Just rename the pertaining shortcut.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
StartAllBack 3.6.10.4706

Test build for 23511

https://startisback.com/StartAllBack_setup.exe
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
Most likely it does already exist. Winaero does it on purpose so the two can reside side by side in System32...

View attachment 66072

Just rename the pertaining shortcut.
The thing is I've been doing it and formatting the past few months and never ran into this issue before, and I always pin old paint up there cause I use it a lot for screenshots and such.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 [22H2] [22621.2428]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Culture-Virus v7.0
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC CQ27G2U/BK
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    M.2 1: Samsung SSD 990 PRO 2TB
    M.2 2: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X SHIFT
    Case
    Phanteks NV9
    Cooling
    Custom Water / Direct-Die Cooling
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    ROCCAT LEADR Optical
    Internet Speed
    500mb Direct Fiber
    Browser
    Chrome
1690652478662.png

with dark magic enabled I get this in notepad++, anyone else?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 [22H2] [22621.2428]
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Culture-Virus v7.0
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-14900K 3.2 GHz 24-Core Processor
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG MAXIMUS Z790 APEX ENCORE ATX LGA1700 Motherboard
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-7200 CL34 Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD Radeon RX 6950 XT
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC CQ27G2U/BK
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    M.2 1: Samsung SSD 990 PRO 2TB
    M.2 2: Samsung SSD 970 EVO Plus 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair RM1000X SHIFT
    Case
    Phanteks NV9
    Cooling
    Custom Water / Direct-Die Cooling
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    ROCCAT LEADR Optical
    Internet Speed
    500mb Direct Fiber
    Browser
    Chrome

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
Right part of the taskbar (date/clock, controls, running tasks) is gone with 3.6.11 and new build 25921.1000
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
That problem was described here in the topic about insider canary build 25921-1000:

In the forum where the developer of StartAllBack is active, there's reported a similar problem:
See around this posting:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Any way to make a folder I put a shortcut to in the start menu expand so I can click things in it as a menu?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Professional (not the cut down rubbish)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built, of course
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900XT (on this one anyway, I have 8)
    Motherboard
    MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max
    Memory
    72G and 72GB and 64GB and 32GB and 32GB and 8GB and 8GB and 8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Fury and 12 Tahitis
    Sound Card
    People still use cards for those?
    Monitor(s) Displays
    7 of them.
    Screen Resolution
    All sorts.
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVME, 4TB rust spinner
    PSU
    Several kW
    Case
    Unimportant
    Cooling
    Big Zalman 6 inch thing
    Keyboard
    Really?
    Mouse
    Yes
    Internet Speed
    32Mbit/7Mbit
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    AVG
    Other Info
    [Crosses legs] Exactly what info are you looking for?

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11, Pro for Workstations, 22631.2861 (23H2)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Amd Ryzen 5 5500 ("Zen 3") (3.6GHz,45-65W,L3:16M,6/12)
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B450M Gaming/BR Chipset B450 AMD AM4 mATX DDR4 - BIOS 4002
    Memory
    DDR4 OLOy Owl Black, 8GB, 3200MHZ, (x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Colorful GeForce GTX 1650 Super
    Sound Card
    -
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips TV 43PFG5102/78
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD: 120GB, Sata III, Leitura 560MBs e Gravação 540MBs
    HD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB, Sata III, 7200RPM, 64MB
    PSU
    Corsair ATX CV550 550W, 80 Plus Bronze, PFC Ativo
    Case
    Wheel Jack, Mid Tower, Vidro Temperado, Black
    Cooling
    default
    Keyboard
    common
    Mouse
    commom
    Internet Speed
    600mb
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Near enough, thanks. I had a folder pinned to the left side and it didn't have a menu. I created it on the right so that will do.

Unless you know how to put it on the left? I'd like it top left, where pinned apps go.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Professional (not the cut down rubbish)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built, of course
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900XT (on this one anyway, I have 8)
    Motherboard
    MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max
    Memory
    72G and 72GB and 64GB and 32GB and 32GB and 8GB and 8GB and 8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Fury and 12 Tahitis
    Sound Card
    People still use cards for those?
    Monitor(s) Displays
    7 of them.
    Screen Resolution
    All sorts.
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVME, 4TB rust spinner
    PSU
    Several kW
    Case
    Unimportant
    Cooling
    Big Zalman 6 inch thing
    Keyboard
    Really?
    Mouse
    Yes
    Internet Speed
    32Mbit/7Mbit
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    AVG
    Other Info
    [Crosses legs] Exactly what info are you looking for?
@Squack202
It seems to me, that you could not expect any help, when you don't specify your system!
Besides that: You (afterwards?) deleted the file you stored at file.io.
Did you find a solution in the meantime?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
@Squack202
It seems to me, that you could not expect any help, when you don't specify your system!
Besides that: You (afterwards?) deleted the file you stored at file.io.
Did you find a solution in the meantime?
What is the obsession with specifying systems in here? They said Windows 11.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Professional (not the cut down rubbish)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home built, of course
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 3900XT (on this one anyway, I have 8)
    Motherboard
    MSI X470 Gaming Plus Max
    Memory
    72G and 72GB and 64GB and 32GB and 32GB and 8GB and 8GB and 8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Fury and 12 Tahitis
    Sound Card
    People still use cards for those?
    Monitor(s) Displays
    7 of them.
    Screen Resolution
    All sorts.
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVME, 4TB rust spinner
    PSU
    Several kW
    Case
    Unimportant
    Cooling
    Big Zalman 6 inch thing
    Keyboard
    Really?
    Mouse
    Yes
    Internet Speed
    32Mbit/7Mbit
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    AVG
    Other Info
    [Crosses legs] Exactly what info are you looking for?

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