StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download

StartAllBack to fix all Windows 11 deal-breaking UI issues

StartAllBack restores taskbar, start menu, context menus, explorer, sanity, style and order!
www.startallback.com


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02 - Start Menu.png
04 - Taskbar.png
05 - Explorer.png
06 - Advanced.png
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Edwin said:
🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️ 🤷‍♂️

Feck it!!! Buy a 4K monitor!!! :zany:
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I do have QHD+ 27 inch monitor. Regarding browser I like that it synchronize everything that's on my phone, but yeah I was thinking ditching it because it's google it steals information.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
So this might be the browser that you are using that allows you to drag it pass the taskbar, apparently Chrome doesn't allow.

What browser you are on?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
New issue:

With StartAllBack running and the latest 11update installed, there is a sometime HUGE space between the Search icon and the first pinned icon on the taskbar. The space varies in size. Disabling StartAllBack fixes the issue.

It amazes me that SAB has no support link or email considering that I have paid for it.

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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homemade
Sleepr0 said:
New issue:

With StartAllBack running and the latest 11update installed, there is a sometime HUGE space between the Search icon and the first pinned icon on the taskbar. The space varies in size. Disabling StartAllBack fixes the issue.

It amazes me that SAB has no support link or email considering that I have paid for it.
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I don't use StartAllBack, but that "space" is for the old "Quick Launch". Like there was on Windows XP.
Look for a setting referring to "Quick Launch" in StartAllBack, and just disable that.

It may also have something to do with the Taskbar search box... check those settings too.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3037 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
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    PC/Desktop
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    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
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    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
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    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
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    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
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    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
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    Dell U3011 30"
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    2560 x 1600
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    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
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    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
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    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
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    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
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    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
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    Firefox (latest)
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    Bitdefender Internet Security
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    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
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    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
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    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
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    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
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    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
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    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
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    Onboard
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    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Sleepr0 said:
It amazes me that SAB has no support link or email considering that I have paid for it.
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As you have paid for it, the support mailadress should be known to you.
For when I received my licence, I became a mail that says:

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As my own language is Dutch, I translated "Subject", "From", "Date" and "To" in this mail into English.
I blurred all private data, as I don't want to publish my mailadress, his mailadresses or my licence number.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
In the settings of StartAllBack (SAB) you can change 'Icon margins'
- Open SAB settings by right-clicking the taskbar
- Click left tab: Taskbar
- Use enhanced classic taskbar (will be on)
- Visual style: looks like your setting is 'Default'
- Icon size: I think your setting must be 'S'
- Icon margins: I think your setting is 'M'
You could try to change that into S or XS
On my testsystem I managed to get the search icon closer to the start icon in that way, but as I probably have other window percentage settings and certainly other colors, I don't know for sure if they correspond with the settings of your system.
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
On both of my desktops the Icon size and margins are set to M and I don't have a large space between the Search icon and the first pinned icon. @Sleepr0, In the Taskbar setting try toggling the Search icon options and see if that fixes the spacing.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
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    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Did you all see that image I attached? The space is enormous. That is not normal. And Quicklaunch is long gone in both Windows 10 and 11.

I did find the original email with the support link, but that really is no excuse for not showing it on your web site or in the "About" tab of the product.

Thanks to all, but the problem still exists. It may be caused by a conflict with another unknown app I have.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homemade
Sleepr0 said:
New issue:

With StartAllBack running and the latest 11update installed, there is a sometime HUGE space between the Search icon and the first pinned icon on the taskbar. The space varies in size. Disabling StartAllBack fixes the issue.

It amazes me that SAB has no support link or email considering that I have paid for it.

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why you use StartAllBack and Open Shell/Classic Shell?

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  • OS
    Windows 11, Pro for Workstations, 22631.2861 (23H2)
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
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    Amd Ryzen 5 5500 ("Zen 3") (3.6GHz,45-65W,L3:16M,6/12)
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime B450M Gaming/BR Chipset B450 AMD AM4 mATX DDR4 - BIOS 4002
    Memory
    DDR4 OLOy Owl Black, 8GB, 3200MHZ, (x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Colorful GeForce GTX 1650 Super
    Sound Card
    -
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    Philips TV 43PFG5102/78
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD: 120GB, Sata III, Leitura 560MBs e Gravação 540MBs
    HD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB, Sata III, 7200RPM, 64MB
    PSU
    Corsair ATX CV550 550W, 80 Plus Bronze, PFC Ativo
    Case
    Wheel Jack, Mid Tower, Vidro Temperado, Black
    Cooling
    default
    Keyboard
    common
    Mouse
    commom
    Internet Speed
    600mb
    Browser
    Opera
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Open Shell is not running in these instances, thanks. Besides, Open Shell does not affect the taskbar in any way.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Homemade

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
@Edwin I'm having a devil of a time enabling dark magic.:rolleyes: Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaPad L340
    CPU
    Intel Core i3-8145U
    Memory
    16GB
    Hard Drives
    500 GB M2 1 TB HDD
    Internet Speed
    400 MB
    Browser
    Chrome | Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender | Block unknown executables | Various ASR rules enabled
oldschool said:
@Edwin I'm having a devil of a time enabling dark magic.:rolleyes: Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I'd shed some light on it if I knew anything about it...
... to be honest, I thought it was enabled by default..., pretty much all of my menus, applets, etc. are dark! 🤷‍♂️
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
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    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Edwin said:
... pretty much all of my menus, applets, etc. are dark!
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I'm mistaken..., now that I check, there is actually quite a few dialogs and applets that are still white!!! My apologies!!!
I'm not really sure where Tihiy is at with it..., I remember him mentioning it was deprioritized due to the Explorer/Taskbar re-write.
Mines kinda half baked, I guess..., I darken other dialogs with an off-accent color...
... close enough for these flakey Insider Builds!!! ;-)

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Edwin said:
to be honest, I thought it was enabled by default...
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I don't see that announced anywhere in this thread or in the MSFN threads.

@Tihiy I had it enabled and then I disabled it in settings and I can't get the command to run again. I get this splash screen "This software can't run on your PC. Contact software developer ... ".
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaPad L340
    CPU
    Intel Core i3-8145U
    Memory
    16GB
    Hard Drives
    500 GB M2 1 TB HDD
    Internet Speed
    400 MB
    Browser
    Chrome | Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender | Block unknown executables | Various ASR rules enabled
It's a mystery to me...,
... maybe @Tihiy will chime in one of these days.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
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