StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download



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SAB might be at fault! :(
Maybe @Tihiy knows a fix.

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Well I guess I'm glad I posted then ☺️.

So why does the other version of sab work when everyone's saying it's not supposed to worrk?

Only issue I'm facing is the quick launch icons are rearranging randomly on a reboot, aside from that everything works fine.
I did a little search on the icons rearranging and it seems it's been a windows issue since back in windows 7 days. Saw some post on forums of people having issues and they were using 7, xp and 10 and people were experiencing the issue. So weird
 

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    Windows 11 LTSC IOT 24H2 build 26100.1150
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    Laptop
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    Pulse GL66 11UGK
    CPU
    i7 11th gen
    Memory
    16gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3070 8GB
    Screen Resolution
    1080 144hz
    Hard Drives
    2tb WD Black
... So you might install that version to see what it's doing, but you might get all kinds of problems with it, because "It's unfinished preview and is for testing only."

That's how I interpreted the whole, did not yet test SAB testversions, because I am not on 24H2.
Indeed, I interpret it in the same way. If installed, "User beware". Users may or may not experience issues.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaPad L340
    CPU
    Intel Core i3-8145U
    Memory
    16GB
    Hard Drives
    500 GB M2 1 TB HDD
    Internet Speed
    400 MB
    Browser
    Chrome | Edge
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender | Block unknown executables | Various ASR rules enabled
Reporting a bug. When using the taskbar with StartAllBack 3.7.11 , Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Google Chat app won't show the "red dot" badge on the icon (never combine) when new message comes.

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@sdugoten
In post #1371 I wrote:
That is an Insider version of 24H2 and if you had carefully read this whole topic, you could have know that the 'old' versions of StartAllBack (SAB) do not function anymore in 24H2, as far as the (Windows 10) taskbar is concerned. It was originally blocked by MS, then altered by the dev of SAB so that it would sense 24H2 and switch off the taskbar functions if that version of Windows would be detected.

That is why the dev (Tihiy) is doing his utmost to get a new version ready, for which he made a testversion as was announced in post #1354.

So you might install that version to see what it's doing, but you might get all kinds of problems with it, because "It's unfinished preview and is for testing only."
I don't know what exact version you are using, but as you wrote you are on 24H2, please read this topic, at least from post #1354.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
I can no longer edit that post, but that was a typo, it should have been 23H2
I cannot edit your post either, but you could edit your system specs, so that there's more there than just 'Windows 11'
If you click 'My Computer' below this post, you can see an example of how to fill that in.
Your own system specs are to be found here.

When using the taskbar with StartAllBack 3.7.11 , Windows 11 Pro 23H2, Google Chat app won't show the "red dot"
In the upper quote I changed 24H2 to 23H2 and react to that:
It seems to me very unlikely, that the developer of StartAllBack (SAB) @Tihiy will correct any bugs for the present version for 23H2. He is much too busy programming the new SAB for the future 24H2, that will come out rather soon (general release expected about September 2024). Only 2 month to go...

I think you will have to accept SAB as it is now. Even if a certain app does not do what you are execting of it. But as I have no contact whatsoever to Tihiy, of course I don't know for sure what he still is intentending to do about older versions of SAB. ;-)
 
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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Just for info:
Those using SAB in W7 mode, and want a simplified Tab UI, Clover still works...

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
i will never update my Windows 11 22H2 because i need StartAllBack, i will only update when Taskbar 2 is officially released
just look at it, i use auto dark mode and StartAllBack made it perfect
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    Windows 11 22H2 Build 22621.4112 KB5041587
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS TUF GAMING A15
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 4800H
    Motherboard
    FA506IEB
    Memory
    16GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 3050 Ti Mobile
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio 192000Hz
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Laptop Display 144Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo 512GB M.2 NVME
    Kioxia OEM 512GB M.2 NVME
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 23H2 Build 22631.4112 KB5041587
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASRock
    CPU
    Ryzen 5 3400G
    Motherboard
    ASRock A320M HDV R3
    Memory
    Crucial 16GB DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    RTX 2060
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 24" S33GC 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1080P
    Hard Drives
    Samsung Evo 870 500GB Sata SSD
    WD Blue 3.5" HDD 1TB

TASKBAR2 ALPHA2​

This will be the next/future StartAllBack version

Just in from the Author Tihiy

2a is for async, bringing major startup boost / responsiveness improvements

 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
Direct exe links are not allowed

StartAllBack 3.8 BETA​

StartAllBack 3.8 is major update with fully recreated taskbar. It will be necessary for August 24H2 update.

It's like 70% new app.

New
- Shy autohide taskbar perk
- Never, hide labels combine button setting
- Reorder task thumbnails by drag&drop

Improved
- Reduced taskbar memory usage, improved responsiveness with async immersive shell startup
- Pixel-perfect task icons if possible
- All-new animations

Removed
- Modern jump list with classic taskbar
- Pinning to jumplist via drop on taskbar button
- Auto-hide taskbar for fullscreen UWP apps


No translations for taskbar context menu in beta 1
 
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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
All good. (y)

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    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
StartAllBack 3.8 is major update with fully recreated taskbar. It will be necessary for August 24H2 update.

What? No more panic to be had? What will people freak out about now though?
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build 22631.4249
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Sin-built
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (4th Gen?)
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus VI Formula
    Memory
    32.0 GB of I forget and the box is in storage.
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte nVidia GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    4 x LG 23MP75 - 2 x 24MK430H-B - 1 x Wacom Pro 22" Tablet
    Screen Resolution
    All over the place
    Hard Drives
    Too many to list.
    OS on Samsung 1TB 870 QVO SATA
    PSU
    Silverstone 1500
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 820 Full-Tower Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Elite Class Dual Tower CPU Cooler / 6 x EziDIY 120mm / 2 x Corsair 140mm somethings / 1 x 140mm Thermaltake something / 2 x 200mm Corsair.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 / Logitech diNovo Edge Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech G402 / G502 / Mx Masters / MX Air Cordless
    Internet Speed
    100/40Mbps
    Browser
    All sorts
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky Premium
    Other Info
    I’m on a horse.
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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 Build: 22631.4249
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    LENOVO Yoga 7i EVO OLED 14" Touchscreen i5 12 Core 16GB/512GB
    CPU
    Intel Core 12th Gen i5-1240P Processor (1.7 - 4.4GHz)
    Memory
    16GB LPDDR5 RAM
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe Graphics Processor
    Sound Card
    Optimized with Dolby Atmos®
    Screen Resolution
    QHD 2880 x 1800 OLED
    Hard Drives
    M.2 512GB
    Other Info
    …still on a horse.

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    ASUS ROG Strix
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    Windows 11
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
StartAllBack 3.8.0.5095 RC is Out

Not Sure What's been fixed or Done?

 
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    Windows 11 Pro
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    Custom Build
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    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
Can you please link to the installer ? It does not autoupdate from the 3.8 BETA, nor does it find any update when trying manually.

PS. Found, thank you.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11
Try : https://startisback.com/StartAllBack_setup.exe
Gave me latest beta 8 , works fine , btw...............;-)
 
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    Windows11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air
Hello, I have an issue with Atomic alarm clock from build 3.7 (on SaB 3.6 is works normally). Each time after boot I got to state on the first picture and after changing checkbox "Use a new font for classic UI" in Advanced tab (doesn't matter if check or uncheck, simply change state) it starts work properly (on tle last pic). Is possible to check, where is the issue? Thanks I forgot Os Win11 23h2 22631 and SaB 3.8RC, but I have the same issue on different builds of Win11 and SaB all versions after 3.6.16
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    Windows 98
3.8 doesn't even have that option.
Try adjusting Clock defaults under Tray icons...

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
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