StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download



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I got 3.9.0.5208 🤷‍♂️

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    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
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    ASUS VivoBook
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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    ASUS ROG Strix
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    Windows 11
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
What does "classic drive grouping "...........?
btw ; the "plumpness " is an improvement , date and time are better visible ......... ;-)
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane 905P
    Samsung 990 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
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    Logitech MX keys
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    Logitech MX Master 3S
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    Edge Canary
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    Kaspersky
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24h2
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    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
3.9 beta 2

Plump taskbar beta​


- Win7 drive grouping option

- Support Virtual Touchpad tray icon

- Disabled Explorer loading WASDK for 7/10 styles

- Adjusted XS/touch taskbar spacing

- Dark (magic) address band popups for Open/Save dialogs

- Fixed All programs scrollbar being dark sometimes

Plump taskbar beta
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
3.9 beta 3

Plump taskbar beta​

Restyled win11 progress bar, indicator, clock alignment depending on plumpness

Plump taskbar beta
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
3.9 beta 3

Plump taskbar beta​

Restyled win11 progress bar, indicator, clock alignment depending on plumpness

Plump taskbar beta
Without plumpness, I prefer the one before

SAB :
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Beta 3 :
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Not to mention the ugly green,
Back to previous version :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane 905P
    Samsung 990 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
Not to mention the ugly green,
I fully agree with you!

Without Plumpness, the progression of copying etc. is marked by an ugly green taskbar label. With Plumness switched on, it's the old marker, a thin green line (not so beautiful too, but better acceptable anyway). But set on Plumpness (whatever advantages that may have), the taskbar takes more space from the lower part of the screen, which is what I don't want. For what purpose would that be good? I am using small taskbar icons, to keep the space taken by the taskbar as small as possible.

This is a big disadvantage built in now. I don't like it at all!
Please make it so, that I can choose the way the progression of a task is displayed.

StartAllBack taskbar progression bar until version 3.9 beta 3:
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Version 3.9 beta with plumpness Heft:
Plumness Heft.webp

Version 3.9 beta with plumpness Buffer:
Plumpness Buffer.webp

Version 3.9 beta with plumpness Aura:
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Version 3.9 beta 3 without Plumpness:
Without Plumness.webp
What is that full green stripe for? Why is the whole label taken for progression indication?
Awful that really is!

Must be a mistake by Tihiy to make it like that... :(

Please make the color of the progreesion bar selectable, like the color of the taskbar itself is.
And let it just be a thin line in all circumstances.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
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    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
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    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
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    F-secure via Internet provider
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    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Yes, it would be nice if without plumpness, the behavior is like the previous versions

The best would be to have the color of the progressbar like that of the 24h2 by default (based on the accent color)
But it's true that the design of the progressbar of SAB is better, just missing the color
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane 905P
    Samsung 990 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
Yes, it would be nice if without plumpness, the behavior is like the previous versions

The best would be to have the color of the progressbar like that of the 24h2 by default (based on the accent color)
But it's true that the design of the progressbar of SAB is better, just missing the color

This could be implemented as a toggle in settings if possible.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (WinMac v0.7.2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Probook G8 450
    CPU
    i5-1135G7
    Memory
    32 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
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    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
I don't care for the Clock characters aligned to the right, I prefer the older centered...

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The progress bars don't bother me...

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  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
True , though its nice if the date is visible also , under the time.........:wink:
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows11 Pro
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus
    CPU
    i7
    Motherboard
    z97k
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Hard Drives
    3
    Cooling
    air
As long as it is an option :-)
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel 10980XE
    Motherboard
    Asus Rampage VI Extreme Encore
    Memory
    G.Skill TridentZ Royale
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2080Ti Hydro Copper
    Sound Card
    Asus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 27"
    Hard Drives
    Intel Optane 905P
    Samsung 990 Pro
    PSU
    Seasonic Prime TX 1000W
    Case
    Lian Li A77F
    Cooling
    Watercooling
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX keys
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S
    Browser
    Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 24h2
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus Pro
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  • OS
    Windows 11
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    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Did not note that extra option but don't see any difference with being Aura without Dynamic aura:

Dynamic aura activated:
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Dynamic aura not activated:
Aura without dynamic.webp

What's the fun of that?
 

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System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
don't see any difference with being Aura without Dynamic aura
Figured it out...,
... with a window maximized, switching it tightens up the Taskbar then back to floating...

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
Bottom right Peek at desktop is working properly again, including click to minimize all.

I wish the version would show in hover tips when you download the exe...

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Strix
  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS VivoBook
...with a window maximized, switching it tightens up the Taskbar then back to floating...
With a window maximized (for instance an image shown in classic Windows Photo Viewer), I don't want a taskbar to be seen and that's exactly how it is done by the system. So for me I will never use that option.

Or maybe I did understand you wrong, but you don't need to explain what is archieved by that function, as I will never switch over to the Plumpness taskbar at all. Takes too much space from my screen, I don't like it at all.
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4751
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
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