StartAllBack


StartAllBack: Windows 11 from better timeline​

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Embrace, enhance, unsweep classic UI from under the rug​

Restore and improve taskbar​

  • Show labels on task icons
  • Adjust icon size and margins
  • Move taskbar to top, left or right edges
  • Drag and drop stuff onto taskbar
  • Center task icons but keep Start button on the left
  • Split into segments, use dynamic translucency
  • Separate corner icons with Windows 7/10 UI
  • Auto-hide when covered by maximized window

Restore and improve File Explorer and Control Panel​

  • Ribbon and Command Bar revamped with translucent effects
  • Details pane on bottom
  • Old search box (the one which works)
  • Dark mode support for more dialogs

Restore and improve context menus​

  • All new look with rounded acrylic menus
  • Fast and responsive taskbar menus
  • New fonts, better touch support

Restore and improve start menu​

  • Launch apps and go to system places in one click
  • Navigate dropdown menus like a boss
  • Enjoy fast and reliable search

Finally, lightweight styling and UI consistency​

  • Enjoy Windows 7, Windows 8 and third-party taskbar and start menu styles
  • Fix UI inconsistencies in Win32 apps
  • Don't be blue: recolor UI in all windows apps
  • Negative resource usage: fewer RAM used, fewer processes started, faster startup





StartAllBack For Windows 11 has been released.
It's an RC release. I haven't tested it yet as I have Start11 installed.

Edit: I have now tested it. It's working quite well.
Apart from a great start menu, you can also have the Enhanced Classic Taskbar back.
This means (for example) that you can have an uncombined and unlocked Taskbar.
You will now also be able to enhance the Taskbar clock using T-Clock Redux or similar.
T-Clock Redux Tray Clock_.png

You can also change Windows Explorer to Ribbon UI or Simple UI.

You can get it Download

StartAllBack to fix all Windows 11 deal-breaking UI issues

StartAllBack restores taskbar, start menu, context menus, explorer, sanity, style and order!
www.startallback.com


01 - Welcome.png
02 - Start Menu.png
04 - Taskbar.png
05 - Explorer.png
06 - Advanced.png
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asteski said:
If it doens't show in notifications settings, you can just click 3 dots at the top right of notification and disable it.
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Do you mean in the Startallback settings? I've been looking without finding anything. Is it under Welcome, Advanced, About...?

Oh, you mean the notification itself? No 3 dots there either:

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    AMD Ryzen 5
punchb said:
Do you mean in the Startallback settings? I've been looking without finding anything. Is it under Welcome, Advanced, About...?

Oh, you mean the notification itself? No 3 dots there either:

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No, in the actual notification. So I guess you're not using Windows 11 then, I don't know how it's managed in other os versions.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (WinMac v0.8.2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Probook G8 450
    CPU
    i5-1135G7
    Memory
    32 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
asteski said:
No, in the actual notification. So I guess you're not using Windows 11 then, I don't know how it's managed in other os versions.
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The actual notification looks like I posted in my previous post. No 3 dots. As mentioned I'm on Win11 23H2.

In Notification Settings in Windows, I already have notifications in general disabled.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    AMD Ryzen 5
So if I enable notifications in Windows (just to check), I get a notification from Startallback that does have 3 dots, but the option to disable notifications for Startallback is grayed out there. But as I mentioned, I have ALL notifications DISABLED in Windows. Still I get this nagging popup from Startallback. Where do I turn it off?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    AMD Ryzen 5
flhthemi said:
I still can't figure out why upon startup of my PC SAB will not show my Notifications and Calendar when I try to open them. If I open settings for SAB and move the taskbar to the bottom, then open notifications it works. THEN move the task bar to the top and open it it works. I have to do this every time I boot, reboot or restart SAB. I tried setting the Theme to Kinda 10. Still end up with the same result.

This is an issue that presents itself on every one of the computers I have installed it on. Am I the only one having this issue/bug?
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So I just want to know, as I still have this issue, is this by design because I don't have a key? I want to get the key but if it's still going to present with this issue then I won't get one. I also have noticed the settings screen just popping up on the desktop on one PC that I have running 24/7. Figured that's just because of not having a key.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MinisForum
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900HK
    Memory
    32gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel(R) Iris(R) Xe Graphics
    Sound Card
    Realtek 888
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    1TB SSD
    Keyboard
    Logitech
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 2X
    Internet Speed
    600
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I'm not the developer of StartAllBack, just a user. However, I did manage to take your dump file into WinDBG and found something interesting. Do you have Foxit PDF Reader installed?

I have a feeling that SAB is somehow conflicting with the Foxit PDF Reader shell extension.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX
    Memory
    2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 EXPO (CL30)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX3060 12GB
    Sound Card
    On-Board Sound / Sony WH-XB910N Bluetooth Headphones
    PSU
    MSI A850GF
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL II MESH C
    Cooling
    DeepCool AK620 with Arctic Silver 5
    Keyboard
    Steelseries
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
infinity said:
yes I do! is there any way to remove the shell extension only so I can get it working properly?
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Autoruns by SysInternals. It's a program that can allow you to remove/deactivate things like shell extensions and other such things. Run it, go to the Explorer tab in Autoruns, and find any references to Foxit and uncheck them. Reboot.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX
    Memory
    2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 EXPO (CL30)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX3060 12GB
    Sound Card
    On-Board Sound / Sony WH-XB910N Bluetooth Headphones
    PSU
    MSI A850GF
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL II MESH C
    Cooling
    DeepCool AK620 with Arctic Silver 5
    Keyboard
    Steelseries
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
I removed the Foxit shell extensions, rebooted and it is still crashing though. Will you be able to see anything else from the new logs?

Dropbox

www.dropbox.com www.dropbox.com
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 3600
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 Tomahawk Max
    Memory
    GSkill RipJawz 16Gbx2
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX960
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    WD750 SSD 1TB
    PSU
    650w FSP
Unfortunately, I have no power and I’m on my cell phone. Great. A big wind storm came through the area and knocked out power for my whole neighborhood.

Someone else will have to look into it for you. By the way, it was a guess as to if Foxit was the cause. That’s what the debugger said, so that’s that.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX
    Memory
    2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 EXPO (CL30)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX3060 12GB
    Sound Card
    On-Board Sound / Sony WH-XB910N Bluetooth Headphones
    PSU
    MSI A850GF
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL II MESH C
    Cooling
    DeepCool AK620 with Arctic Silver 5
    Keyboard
    Steelseries
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
Is anyone elses version stuck on saying the full date instead of 03/16/25? 1742148363136.webp
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700 CPU @ 3.20GHz
    Motherboard
    ROG Maximus X Code
    Memory
    G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GTZR Trident Z RGB Series 16 GBx2 (32GB)
    Graphics Card(s)
    PowerColor Fighter AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT w/ 12GB GDDR6 Memory
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3x ASUS VP28UQG 28" 4K/UHD 3840x2160 1ms DP HDMI Adaptive Sync/FreeSync Eye Care Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160 x3
    Keyboard
    Razer Huntsman V2 TKL
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
    Internet Speed
    500 Up / 20 Down
    Browser
    Firefox Beta and Brave Beta
    Antivirus
    Malwarebytes Premium
Version 3.9.6 was released, I'm only quoting Tihiy from over on the msfn.org forum.
  • Added emoji panel tray icon (disabled by default)
  • Added default output selection for sound tray icon context menu
  • Fix taskbar tablet spacing
  • Fix Win7 explorer style missing command bar on newer Windows Updates
  • Reverted new battery icon 'not charging' state
  • Removed 'Restore previous versions' and 'Troubleshoot compatibility' from classic non-extended context menu
  • Unnecessary compatibility for Dark Magic with MicaForEveryone
  • Canary compatibility fixes
This is a link to his post...
msfn.org

StartAllBack for Windows 11

msfn.org
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self-Built
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 7700X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B650 AORUS Elite AX
    Memory
    2x16GB G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO DDR5 EXPO (CL30)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte GeForce RTX3060 12GB
    Sound Card
    On-Board Sound / Sony WH-XB910N Bluetooth Headphones
    PSU
    MSI A850GF
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL II MESH C
    Cooling
    DeepCool AK620 with Arctic Silver 5
    Keyboard
    Steelseries
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
Thanks trparky
The actual build number is StartAllBack v3.9.6.5261 (Stable) 2025-03-18
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
@Tihiy just a suggestion I've come up with just now. Is it possible to configure clock tray icon, so it shows action center instead of Windows 10 calendar? Action center includes both notifications and calendar, would be cool to be able to switch between the two for clock specifically.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (WinMac v0.8.2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Probook G8 450
    CPU
    i5-1135G7
    Memory
    32 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
asteski said:
@Tihiy just a suggestion I've come up with just now. Is it possible to configure clock tray icon, so it shows action center instead of Windows 10 calendar? Action center includes both notifications and calendar, would be cool to be able to switch between the two for clock specifically.
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until he implements it (if it happens), you can use tclock and set the action to run the attached .exe (ahk compiled) to launch actioncenter (calendar + toast notifications)
 

Attachments

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
dacrone said:
until he implements it (if it happens), you can use tclock and set the action to run the attached .exe (ahk compiled) to launch actioncenter (calendar + toast notifications)
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Thank you, will try it out.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (WinMac v0.8.2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Probook G8 450
    CPU
    i5-1135G7
    Memory
    32 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
trparky said:
Version 3.9.6 was released, I'm only quoting Tihiy from over on the msfn.org forum.
  • Added emoji panel tray icon (disabled by default)
  • Added default output selection for sound tray icon context menu
  • Fix taskbar tablet spacing
  • Fix Win7 explorer style missing command bar on newer Windows Updates
  • Reverted new battery icon 'not charging' state
  • Removed 'Restore previous versions' and 'Troubleshoot compatibility' from classic non-extended context menu
  • Unnecessary compatibility for Dark Magic with MicaForEveryone
  • Canary compatibility fixes
This is a link to his post...
msfn.org

StartAllBack for Windows 11

msfn.org
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I've been waiting for the fix so I can upgrade my Canary builds.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
StartAllBack 3.9.6.5262 19 March 2025 (beta)

Again Not Sure What's Been Updated
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers
StartAllBack 3.9.6.5264 24 March 2025 (beta)
Again Not Sure What's Been Updated
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 12900KF
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero
    Memory
    Corsair 64GB DDR5 Vengeance C40 5200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix OC 24GB
    Sound Card
    OnBoard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer Predator XB323UGP 32" QHD G-SYNC-C 144Hz 1MS IPS LED
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 250GB M.2 NVMe
    1x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 500GB M.2 NVMe
    2x Samsung 980 Pro Series Gen4 2TB M.2 NVMe
    PSU
    Corsair AX1200i 1200W 80PLUS Titanium Modular
    Case
    Corsair 4000D Black Case w/ Tempered Glass Side Panel
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black CPU Cooler, 4x Noctua 120mm Fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech MK545
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    Fixed Wireless 150mbps/75mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Kaspersky
    Other Info
    Thrustmaster TS-PC RACER
    Fanatec CSL Elite Pedals with the Load Cell Kit
    Yamaha Amp with Bose Speakers

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (WinMac v0.8.2)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Probook G8 450
    CPU
    i5-1135G7
    Memory
    32 GB (DDR4, 3200 MHz)
    Other Info
    I loved modding and customizing operating systems since very young age, gaining experience from all important systems, including Windows, Ubuntu, MacOS and Android, which led to creation of Windows 11 mod called WinMac. Seamlessly blending the elegance of macOS with the versatility of Windows, my customized interface elevates user experience through meticulously crafted modifications and UI enhancements.

    With WinMac, every interaction with Windows 11 environment is imbued with a touch of sophistication, where the boundaries between the Windows and Mac universes blur, offering a sublime computing experience that transcends conventional limitations of Windows 11.
  • Operating System
    macOS Sonoma
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple MacBook Pro
    CPU
    Apple M3 Pro
    Memory
    18 GB
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