The Taskbar Phantoms


Dragon Drop

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Here’s a mystery for you! (Or for ME, at least.) I recently found that several of the items that appear on my Taskbar don’t seem to be in the system at all. The Taskbar icons work when I click them; but those items aren’t in the Taskbar folder, or the QuickLaunch folder, or ANY folder. I don’t see how an object (i.e. a folder, file, or program) can be in my computer without being in any folder. And yet, apparently, they are.

These items include:

1. YouTube;
2. Wikipedia;
3. AOL Mail;
4. Weather (Not the Weather app that comes with Windows, but a link to the National Weather Service website, “Weather.gov”);
5. VitalSource Bookshelf (An E–book reader which I purchased and installed).

I've searched the whole "C:" Drive, with the "View Hidden Items" option enabled, and found no trace of these items -- except for the VitalSource Bookshelf, which is in a folder called

"C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\AppRepository"

And when I tried to open that folder, I got "Access Denied". I'm an Administrator, and the only user on the computer.

These items also appear in the Start menu -- but not in either of the two "StartMenu" folders. So they're both "Start Menu Phantoms" and "Taskbar Phantoms"!

Could it be that Windows now has folders that don't appear even when you show "Hidden Items"? So far, I haven't thought of any other explanation.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
After looking through all the other items in the Start Menu, I’ve now found that some of them, too, don’t seem to reside in any folders that I can find. These include: Photos, Paint, Solitaire, Media Player, Restart, Shut Down, Recycle Bin, and Control Panel.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
did you install them as web apps? like Start > All Apps > Chrome Apps (or Edge Apps or Brave Apps, etc)

in your browser, go to

chrome://apps
edge://apps
brave://apps
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
I'd love to see a picture of all those things on the taskbar!

On any questionable icon: rt click, hover over the icon's name, rt click on it and click on properties.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    win 11Pro 24H2 current
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY
    CPU
    I9-13900k
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-E Gam wifi-6E, latest AMI BIOS 2801
    Memory
    G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB Kit DDR5 6000. 6000.
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti VISION OC 8G (rev. 2.0)
    Sound Card
    "Realtek USB Audio", ROG SupremeFX 7.1 Surround Sound High Definition Audio CODEC ALC4080, Bose Computer Music Monitor/ Desktop Computer Speakers
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell S3221QS
    Screen Resolution
    4K but I usually display at 1K
    Hard Drives
    Sam 980 Pro 1T M.2, 990Pro, WD 570, others(all NVMe)
    PSU
    Corsair RM750e fully modular
    Case
    CoolerMaster TD500 mesh white case
    Cooling
    CPU:Thermalright aio A-E-360 V4 TOP(Thermalright anti-bend plate), CASE:3 front fans IN, 1 back fan OUT.
    Keyboard
    Corsair K55 Core RGB (install iCue, install all firmware, uninstall iCue)
    Mouse
    Logitech M510. - (retired the Corsair Harpoon RGB wireless - double clicks)
    Internet Speed
    220Mbs Starry; I226-V NIC
    Browser
    Firefox current, Tab center Reborn, etc etc etc.
    Antivirus
    BitDefender AV Free
    Other Info
    WuMgr, StartAllBack, Terabyte Image for Win, Revo Uninstaller Pro Portable.
    Time Spy Extreme 6239, VRMark Orange Room 16430, etc.
    Been doing computers since '62(IBM 7070/4(just missed their 650!!!). Managed a bunch of 360's. My first PC I think was one of the RS puters (I tried them all), a commodore, an IBM PC w DOS 3.11, and others mainly DIY (COMPUTER SHOPPER!!!) w 95, 98, xp, vista, me, 7!!!, 8, 10!!!, 11.
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    Intel SoC
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    16GB DDR4
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    Nvidia Quadro P520 2GB DDR5 supports 4K external via HDMI or USB-C
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    Realtek ALC3287 HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15.6"
    Screen Resolution
    1K
    Hard Drives
    NVMe various
"On any questionable icon: rt click, hover over the icon's name, rt click on it and click on properties."

Eh, none on mine have Right Click option > Properties.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
To see the proerties for my taskbar icon WhatsApp, I have to right-click on it and then right-click on WhatsApp just above 'unpin from taskbar'.

1739628631034.webp
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Based on the directory listing, that “Repository” folder contains the names of some apps, including Photos, Paint, Solitaire, and Control Panel. But it doesn’t seem to contain any actual programs (“exe” files).

I did find Notepad, Paint, and Media Player, in the folder
“AppData\Local\Microsoft\WindowsApps”.

And I’ve found two other copies of the Notepad program:
One in C:\Windows, and one in C:\Windows\System32.

The thing that bothers me is that (supposedly) every program is supposed to be in either the "C:\Program Files" folder, or the "C:\Program Files (x86)" folder. And yet, apparently, it isn't so!
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
Not really, many apps allow you to choose the destination folder.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot

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