Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements


UPDATE 8/27: Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements and PC Health Check app

Windows Insiders,

Today we’re releasing our first Insider build for Windows 11, and we’re looking forward to the insight that comes from you installing and using on a variety of your PCs. Last week’s introduction of Windows 11 signaled the first step on our journey to empower people with the next generation of Windows. With a new generation comes an opportunity to adapt software and hardware to keep pace with people’s computing needs today and in the future.

The intention of today’s post is to acknowledge and clarify the confusion caused by our PC Health Check tool, share more details as to why we updated the system requirements for Windows 11 and set the path for how we will learn and adjust. Below you will find changes we are making based on that feedback, including ensuring we have the ability for Windows Insiders to install Windows 11 on 7th generation processors to give us more data about performance and security, updating our PC Health check app to provide more clarity, and committing to more technical detail on the principles behind our decisions. With Windows 11, we are focused on increasing security, improving reliability, and ensuring compatibility. This is what drives our decisions.

Why new Windows 11 minimum system requirements

Windows 11 is designed and built as a complete set of experiences, unlocking the full power of the PC our customers have come to rely on, including in areas like security, reliability, compatibility, video conferencing, multitasking, playing, creating, building, learning and more. We need a minimum system requirement that enables us to adapt software and hardware to keep pace with people’s expectations, needs and harness the true value and power of the PC to deliver the best experiences, now and in the future. To do that, we were guided by the following principles:
  1. Security. Windows 11 raises the bar for security by requiring hardware that can enable protections like Windows Hello, Device Encryption, virtualization-based security (VBS), hypervisor-protected code integrity (HVCI) and Secure Boot. The combination of these features has been shown to reduce malware by 60% on tested devices. To meet the principle, all Windows 11 supported CPUs have an embedded TPM, support secure boot, and support VBS and specific VBS capabilities.
  2. Reliability. Devices upgraded to Windows 11 will be in a supported and reliable state. By choosing CPUs that have adopted the new Windows Driver model and are supported by our OEM and silicon partners who are achieving a 99.8% crash free experience.
  3. Compatibility. Windows 11 is designed to be compatible with the apps you use. It has the fundamentals of >1GHz, 2-core processors, 4GB memory, and 64GB of storage, aligning with our minimum system requirements for Office and Microsoft Teams.
Using the principles above, we are confident that devices running on Intel 8th generation processors and AMD Zen 2 as well as Qualcomm 7 and 8 Series will meet our principles around security and reliability and minimum system requirements for Windows 11. As we release to Windows Insiders and partner with our OEMs, we will test to identify devices running on Intel 7th generation and AMD Zen 1 that may meet our principles. We’re committed to sharing updates with you on the results of our testing over time, as well as sharing additional technical blogs.

PC Health Check App

See if PC meets Requirements for Windows 11 with PC Health Check app

With these minimum system requirements in mind, the PC Health Check app was intended to help people check if their current Windows 10 PC could upgrade to Windows 11. Based on the feedback so far, we acknowledge that it was not fully prepared to share the level of detail or accuracy you expected from us on why a Windows 10 PC doesn’t meet upgrade requirements. We are temporarily removing the app so that our teams can address the feedback. We will get it back online in preparation for general availability this fall. In the meantime, you can visit our minimum system requirements page here to learn more.

First build of Windows 11 available to Windows Insiders today

Today, we’re releasing the first preview build of Windows 11 to the Windows Insider community. In support of the Windows 11 system requirements, we’ve set the bar for previewing in our Windows Insider Program to match the minimum system requirements for Windows 11, with the exception for TPM 2.0 and CPU family/model. By providing preview builds to the diverse systems in our Windows Insider Program, we will learn how Windows 11 performs across CPU models more comprehensively, informing any adjustments we should make to our minimum system requirements in the future. We look forward to the product feedback and learnings as it’s an important step to prepare Windows 11 for general availability this year – thank you to the Windows Insider community for your excitement and feedback thus far!

UPDATED 6/28 at 10:24am PDT.


Source: Update on Windows 11 minimum system requirements | Windows Insider Blog
 
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Did I make an error? I thought you used to make it "fafrd".
Never mind, my real handle is Chris(topher), neither "h" there is voiced, either - like in London, except as in " It's 'andy, hinnit, 'avin' silent haitches!"
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11, update 21H2 29/06/2021 10.0.22000.51
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple iMac9,1
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo E8435 @ 3.06GHz
    Motherboard
    Apple Inc. Mac-F2218FA9
    Memory
    8 GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GForce GT 130
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Imac 2009 23"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD1001FALS-40K1B0 SATA 1TB
    PSU
    Apple
    Case
    Aluminium (or is it Aluminum?)
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    USB UK extended generic
    Mouse
    Novatech USB wheel optical mouse
    Internet Speed
    51.4 down 16.7 up ethernet
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
    Other Info
    obtained secondhand from CEX 2018 £140
Don' want to turn this into a "distro dispute" -- but at least with me, you would lose your bet -- badly!! I used several different distros for years and years and settled in on Ubuntu and Linux Mint a few years ago. And then, the key apps I used got dropped from the repos -- so I resorted to building them from scratch -- certainly not "the same ease" as installing from the repos. Then, the libraries got dropped and I could no longer build from source. Then, the printer utilities for checking ink levels got dropped, so I could no longer check that. This got to be so bad that two years ago, I stopped using the distros altogether. I recently tried Ubuntu 20.04 to see if things were any better -- they were not.
I have to apologise, Mark, I was making assumptions. Based on experiences from years ago, where hardware that had lost driver support in Windows, Linux seemed to have far superior ability to run older stuff natively from its repositories. I can quite understand that the situation may have changed.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11, update 21H2 29/06/2021 10.0.22000.51
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Apple iMac9,1
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo E8435 @ 3.06GHz
    Motherboard
    Apple Inc. Mac-F2218FA9
    Memory
    8 GB DDR3
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia GForce GT 130
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Imac 2009 23"
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1200
    Hard Drives
    WDC WD1001FALS-40K1B0 SATA 1TB
    PSU
    Apple
    Case
    Aluminium (or is it Aluminum?)
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    USB UK extended generic
    Mouse
    Novatech USB wheel optical mouse
    Internet Speed
    51.4 down 16.7 up ethernet
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
    Other Info
    obtained secondhand from CEX 2018 £140
If anyone wants to check if the CPU is supporting the required instructions according to Microsoft minimum hardware requirement, I will list them down, NOT the generation list.

•Supports 2 Processor Cores
•Compatible with the x64 or ARM64 instruction set
•Supports PF_ARM_V81_ATOMIC_INSTRUCTIONS_AVAILABLEinstruction set (for ARM64 processor)
•Supports PAE, NX and SSE4.1
•Supports CMPXCHG16b, LAHF/SAHF, and PrefetchW


Which imo is enough to run Windows 11, using the app Coreinfo from Microsoft and looking for a star (*) beside the instructions listed above, (-) means not supported, I will list the instructions for my CPU and mark the required instuctions with bold font :


Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7820HK CPU @ 2.90GHz
Intel64 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel
Microcode signature: 000000EA
HTT * Hyperthreading enabled
CET - Supports Control Flow Enforcement Technology
Kernel CET - Kernel-mode CET Enabled
User CET - User-mode CET Allowed
HYPERVISOR - Hypervisor is present
VMX * Supports Intel hardware-assisted virtualization
SVM - Supports AMD hardware-assisted virtualization
X64 * Supports 64-bit mode

SMX - Supports Intel trusted execution
SKINIT - Supports AMD SKINIT
SGX * Supports Intel SGX

NX * Supports no-execute page protection
SMEP * Supports Supervisor Mode Execution Prevention
SMAP * Supports Supervisor Mode Access Prevention
PAGE1GB * Supports 1 GB large pages
PAE * Supports > 32-bit physical addresses
PAT * Supports Page Attribute Table
PSE * Supports 4 MB pages
PSE36 * Supports > 32-bit address 4 MB pages
PGE * Supports global bit in page tables
SS * Supports bus snooping for cache operations
VME * Supports Virtual-8086 mode
RDWRFSGSBASE * Supports direct GS/FS base access

FPU * Implements i387 floating point instructions
MMX * Supports MMX instruction set
MMXEXT - Implements AMD MMX extensions
3DNOW - Supports 3DNow! instructions
3DNOWEXT - Supports 3DNow! extension instructions
SSE * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions
SSE2 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 2
SSE3 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 3
SSSE3 * Supports Supplemental SIMD Extensions 3
SSE4a - Supports Streaming SIMDR Extensions 4a
SSE4.1 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.1
SSE4.2 * Supports Streaming SIMD Extensions 4.2

AES * Supports AES extensions
AVX * Supports AVX instruction extensions
AVX2 * Supports AVX2 instruction extensions
AVX-512-F - Supports AVX-512 Foundation instructions
AVX-512-DQ - Supports AVX-512 double and quadword instructions
AVX-512-IFAMA - Supports AVX-512 integer Fused multiply-add instructions
AVX-512-PF - Supports AVX-512 prefetch instructions
AVX-512-ER - Supports AVX-512 exponential and reciprocal instructions
AVX-512-CD - Supports AVX-512 conflict detection instructions
AVX-512-BW - Supports AVX-512 byte and word instructions
AVX-512-VL - Supports AVX-512 vector length instructions
FMA * Supports FMA extensions using YMM state
MSR * Implements RDMSR/WRMSR instructions
MTRR * Supports Memory Type Range Registers
XSAVE * Supports XSAVE/XRSTOR instructions
OSXSAVE * Supports XSETBV/XGETBV instructions
RDRAND * Supports RDRAND instruction
RDSEED * Supports RDSEED instruction

CMOV * Supports CMOVcc instruction
CLFSH * Supports CLFLUSH instruction
CX8 * Supports compare and exchange 8-byte instructions
CX16 * Supports CMPXCHG16B instruction
BMI1 * Supports bit manipulation extensions 1
BMI2 * Supports bit manipulation extensions 2
ADX * Supports ADCX/ADOX instructions
DCA - Supports prefetch from memory-mapped device
F16C * Supports half-precision instruction
FXSR * Supports FXSAVE/FXSTOR instructions
FFXSR - Supports optimized FXSAVE/FSRSTOR instruction
MONITOR * Supports MONITOR and MWAIT instructions
MOVBE * Supports MOVBE instruction
ERMSB * Supports Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB
PCLMULDQ * Supports PCLMULDQ instruction
POPCNT * Supports POPCNT instruction
LZCNT * Supports LZCNT instruction
SEP * Supports fast system call instructions
LAHF-SAHF * Supports LAHF/SAHF instructions in 64-bit mode
HLE - Supports Hardware Lock Elision instructions
RTM - Supports Restricted Transactional Memory instructions

DE * Supports I/O breakpoints including CR4.DE
DTES64 * Can write history of 64-bit branch addresses
DS * Implements memory-resident debug buffer
DS-CPL * Supports Debug Store feature with CPL
PCID * Supports PCIDs and settable CR4.PCIDE
INVPCID * Supports INVPCID instruction
PDCM * Supports Performance Capabilities MSR
RDTSCP * Supports RDTSCP instruction
TSC * Supports RDTSC instruction
TSC-DEADLINE * Local APIC supports one-shot deadline timer
TSC-INVARIANT * TSC runs at constant rate
xTPR * Supports disabling task priority messages

EIST * Supports Enhanced Intel Speedstep
ACPI * Implements MSR for power management
TM * Implements thermal monitor circuitry
TM2 * Implements Thermal Monitor 2 control
APIC * Implements software-accessible local APIC
x2APIC * Supports x2APIC

CNXT-ID - L1 data cache mode adaptive or BIOS

MCE * Supports Machine Check, INT18 and CR4.MCE
MCA * Implements Machine Check Architecture
PBE * Supports use of FERR#/PBE# pin

PSN - Implements 96-bit processor serial number

PREFETCHW * Supports PREFETCHW instruction

Maximum implemented CPUID leaves: 00000016 (Basic), 80000008 (Extended).
Maximum implemented address width: 48 bits (virtual), 39 bits (physical).

Processor signature: 000906E9

Logical to Physical Processor Map:
**------ Physical Processor 0 (Hyperthreaded)
--**---- Physical Processor 1 (Hyperthreaded)
----**-- Physical Processor 2 (Hyperthreaded)
------** Physical Processor 3 (Hyperthreaded)

Logical Processor to Socket Map:
******** Socket 0

Logical Processor to NUMA Node Map:
******** NUMA Node 0

No NUMA nodes.

Logical Processor to Cache Map:
**------ Data Cache 0, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
**------ Instruction Cache 0, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
**------ Unified Cache 0, Level 2, 256 KB, Assoc 4, LineSize 64
******** Unified Cache 1, Level 3, 8 MB, Assoc 16, LineSize 64
--**---- Data Cache 1, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
--**---- Instruction Cache 1, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
--**---- Unified Cache 2, Level 2, 256 KB, Assoc 4, LineSize 64
----**-- Data Cache 2, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
----**-- Instruction Cache 2, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
----**-- Unified Cache 3, Level 2, 256 KB, Assoc 4, LineSize 64
------** Data Cache 3, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
------** Instruction Cache 3, Level 1, 32 KB, Assoc 8, LineSize 64
------** Unified Cache 4, Level 2, 256 KB, Assoc 4, LineSize 64

Logical Processor to Group Map:
******** Group 0
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 vmware
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI GT83VR 7RF Titan SLI
    CPU
    i7 7820HK
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1080 2x SLI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Nahimic 3
I found out why Microsoft is setting much high requirements, they are planning to enable Device Guard and Credential Guard.

This is why probably all CPUs prior to the 7th gen will be excluded.

I run the test on a VM, the VM doesn't have TPM, (EDIT: I added fake TPM) while my laptop does, and here are the result.
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I will not explain how to run the test cause this will slow down your PC a lot, like a lot, but if anyone interested, try to figure out yourself here is the link Download Device Guard and Credential Guard hardware readiness tool from Official Microsoft Download Center NOT RECOMMENDED, Don't enable or try to run the test it will slow down your PC

I believe that the 6th gen will not be supported sorry @i486 these features were first introduced to the 7th gen (page 50 EPT and dirty bits)
 
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 vmware
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI GT83VR 7RF Titan SLI
    CPU
    i7 7820HK
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1080 2x SLI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Nahimic 3
If I replace a motherboard and cpu to meet Windows 11 requirements will I have to buy a new Windows and office license? If I have to buy new licenses then I see this as a big ripoff more than an security issue.

I would love to see communication between Microsoft and hardware manufacturers to see if a deal has been made.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Martian made
    CPU
    Ryzen 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570 Pro
    Memory
    16 GBytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1050 TI
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 27e
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080
    Hard Drives
    C: Intel M.2 1TB
    D: Intel M.2 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair 650
    Case
    Corsair C700
    Cooling
    Corsair water
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    @% Mb
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows security
If I replace a motherboard and cpu to meet Windows 11 requirements will I have to buy a new Windows and office license? If I have to buy new licenses then I see this as a big ripoff more than an security issue.

I would love to see communication between Microsoft and hardware manufacturers to see if a deal has been made.
If things don't change and you have retail version, you can transfer it to new MB.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    W11 Pro and Insider Dev
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home brewed
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 7900x
    Motherboard
    ASROCK b650 PRO RS
    Memory
    2x8GB Kingston 6000MHz, Cl 32 @ 6200MHz Cl30
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Rx 6600XT Gaming OC 8G Pro
    Sound Card
    MB, Realtek Ac1220p
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x 27"
    Screen Resolution
    1080p
    Hard Drives
    Kingston KC3000. 1TBSamsung 970 evo Plus 500GB, Crucial P1 NVMe 1TB, Lexar NVMe 2 TB, Silicon Power M.2 SATA 500GB
    PSU
    Seasonic 750W
    Case
    Custom Raidmax
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360mm
    Internet Speed
    20/19 mbps
If things don't change and you have retail version, you can transfer it to new MB.

Thanks Count Mike. I do have retail versions of Windows and office. I don't mind swapping out hardware in this deal as long as MS doesn't force me to buy new licenses too.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Martian made
    CPU
    Ryzen 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570 Pro
    Memory
    16 GBytes
    Graphics Card(s)
    GTX 1050 TI
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP 27e
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080
    Hard Drives
    C: Intel M.2 1TB
    D: Intel M.2 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair 650
    Case
    Corsair C700
    Cooling
    Corsair water
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70
    Mouse
    Logitech
    Internet Speed
    @% Mb
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Windows security
I believe that the 6th gen will not be supported sorry @i486 these features were first introduced to the 7th gen (page 50 EPT and dirty bits)

We'll see. If they hold on to those requirements there will be some backlash, time will tell if that's enough to change their minds. This is a time of chip shortage and elevated prices after all. Windows 10 getting 4½ more years won't change the reception Windows 11 gets if nothing changes.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
We'll see. If they hold on to those requirements there will be some backlash, time will tell if that's enough to change their minds. This is a time of chip shortage and elevated prices after all. Windows 10 getting 4½ more years won't change the reception Windows 11 gets if nothing changes.

Not supported doesn't mean can't run it. So many devices are not supported by Windows 10 and they are running Windows 10.

Unless Microsoft is planning to block updates for the unsupported devices, which I believe most likely Microsoft will not do it.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 vmware
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI GT83VR 7RF Titan SLI
    CPU
    i7 7820HK
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1080 2x SLI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Nahimic 3
Not supported doesn't mean can't run it. So many devices are not supported by Windows 10 and they are running Windows 10.
According to Microsoft, Windows 10 is not supported on any Intel processor earlier than 5th gen. If that were strictly enforced than more than half my PCs running 21H1 would not be allowed to do so - certainly not my Pentium B960 that the 'Get Windows 10' app was perfectly happy to upgrade to 10 back in 2015.

 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
If I replace a motherboard and cpu to meet Windows 11 requirements will I have to buy a new Windows and office license? If I have to buy new licenses then I see this as a big ripoff more than an security issue.

I would love to see communication between Microsoft and hardware manufacturers to see if a deal has been made.

If things don't change and you have retail version, you can transfer it to new MB.

I had Windows 10 licensed on my old rig. I built a new rig last year, all new HDs, mobo, CPU, RAM, and when I logged in to my Microsoft account after performing a clean install of Win10, it automatically made the install licensed and activated it.

I don't see Microsoft doing anything differently for Win 11.

According to Microsoft, Windows 10 is not supported on any Intel processor earlier than 5th gen. If that were strictly enforced than more than half my PCs running 21H1 would not be allowed to do so - certainly not my Pentium B960 that the 'Get Windows 10' app was perfectly happy to upgrade to 10 back in 2015.


Not supported doesn't mean can't run it. So many devices are not supported by Windows 10 and they are running Windows 10.

Unless Microsoft is planning to block updates for the unsupported devices, which I believe most likely Microsoft will not do it.
This.

I ran Windows 10 on an 'unsupported' CPU for years. Even ran Windows Insider builds live on it for a few of those years, as well. Well documented at the tenforums site.

Even if they attempt to enforce it, we already have workarounds to get around the installer through several methods, notable the WIM copy to Win10 ISO, and others.

And the techeads and geeks around the world won't let it sit there if Microsoft starts enforcing it's installer to verify hardware - they'll continue to find workarounds.

Plus, 10 is supported through 2025 (14 October is the supposed date for now).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 23H2 Current build
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HomeBrew
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3950X
    Motherboard
    MSI MEG X570 GODLIKE
    Memory
    4 * 32 GB - Corsair Vengeance 3600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti XC3 ULTRA GAMING (12G-P5-3955-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek® ALC1220 Codec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    2x Eve Spectrum ES07D03 4K Gaming Monitor (Matte) | Eve Spectrum ES07DC9 4K Gaming Monitor (Glossy)
    Screen Resolution
    3x 3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    3x Samsung 980 Pro NVMe PCIe 4 M.2 2 TB SSD (MZ-V8P2T0B/AM) } 3x Sabrent Rocket NVMe 4.0 1 TB SSD (USB)
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling’s Silencer Series 1050 Watt, 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 XL Dark ATX Full Tower Case
    Cooling
    Arctic Liquid Freezer III 420 RGB + Air 3x 140mm case fans (pull front) + 1x 120 mm (push back) and 1 x 120 mm (pull bottom)
    Keyboard
    SteelSeries Apex Pro Wired Gaming Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S | MX Master 3 for Business
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
    Browser
    Nightly (default) + Firefox (stable), Chrome, Edge , Arc
    Antivirus
    Defender + MB 5 Beta
  • Operating System
    ChromeOS Flex Dev Channel (current)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E5470
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6300U CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2501 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
    Motherboard
    Dell
    Memory
    16 GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520
    Sound Card
    Intel(R) HD Graphics 520 + RealTek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell laptop display 15"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 * 1080
    Hard Drives
    Toshiba 128GB M.2 22300 drive
    INTEL Cherryville 520 Series SSDSC2CW180A 180 GB SATA III SSD
    PSU
    Dell
    Case
    Dell
    Cooling
    Dell
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3S (shared w. Sys 1) | Dell TouchPad
    Keyboard
    Dell
    Internet Speed
    AT&T LightSpeed Gigabit Duplex Ftth
Personally, I just find this whole "minimum PC requirement" thing a good excuse to update my system. :)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    500GB Adata SSD (OS Only)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna :)
If I replace a motherboard and cpu to meet Windows 11 requirements will I have to buy a new Windows and office license? If I have to buy new licenses then I see this as a big ripoff more than an security issue.

I would love to see communication between Microsoft and hardware manufacturers to see if a deal has been made.
No. You don't need a new license. It will fall under "hardware upgrade" where you can re-activate your windows OS and transfer your office license into your new computer or hardware.
I just upgraded 2 computers yesterday (changed motherboard, CPU and RAM on both PC) and I was successfully able to re-activate my Windows 10 OS and Office. Except for one machine where there was an error transferring the license for the Office. A microsoft agent connected remotely to the PC to fix the license transfer issue and it is okay now.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
    Motherboard
    MSI MPG Gaming Edge Wifi (X570)
    Memory
    32GB Adata XPG DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS GTX 1070 8GB ROG
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    Main Boot Drive : 512GB Adata XPG RGB Gen3x4 NVMe M.2 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA 600 Watts Gold
    Case
    Deepcool Genome II
    Cooling
    Deepcool Fryzen
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    "Moderna"
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    i7-4790K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Xtreme6 Z97
    Memory
    16GB Corsair Vengeance Pro
    Graphics card(s)
    MSI R9 290
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Ultrawide 34"
    Screen Resolution
    3440x1440
    Hard Drives
    500GB Adata SSD (OS Only)
    PSU
    Thermaltake 475 Watts 80 Bronze
    Case
    Thermaltake Commander I Snow Edition
    Cooling
    Deep Cool Archer Air Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Armageddon MKA-5R RGB-Hornet
    Internet Speed
    1Gbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Moderna :)
No. You don't need a new license. It will fall under "hardware upgrade" where you can re-activate your windows OS and transfer your office license into your new computer or hardware.
(snip)

"Looey" didn't state what sort of Windows license is on the machine.

The licenses in pre-built machines (HP, Dell, etc.) may not be. Some even use keys embedded in the BIOS of the machine. I have no personal experience with that; haven't bought a pre-built since 1995.

The machine I'm typing this on had a digital license for Windows 10. The Win11 22000.51 clean install activated online.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 26100.3025
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Amd Threadripper 7970X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D
    Memory
    128GB (4 X 32) G.Skill DDR5 6400 (RDIMM)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC
    Sound Card
    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27E1N8900 OLED
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Crucial T700 2TB M.2 NVME SSD
    WD 4TB Blue SATA SSD
    Seagate 18TB IronWolf Pro
    PSU
    BeQuiet! Straight Power 12 1500W
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo XL
    Cooling
    SilverStone Technology XE360-TR5, with 3 Phanteks T30 fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Internet Speed
    2000/300 Mbps (down/up)
  • Operating System
    windows 11 26100.3025
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
    Memory
    64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PA329C
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB
    8TB Seagate Ironwolf
    4TB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
According to Microsoft, Windows 10 is not supported on any Intel processor earlier than 5th gen. If that were strictly enforced than more than half my PCs running 21H1 would not be allowed to do so - certainly not my Pentium B960 that the 'Get Windows 10' app was perfectly happy to upgrade to 10 back in 2015.


If you are running VM using 6th gen, can you please enable enable Device Guard and Credential Guard and provide the result of the script Download Device Guard and Credential Guard hardware readiness tool from Official Microsoft Download Center and provide screenshots

You can disable them later, I just want to check if Device Guard and Credential Guard can be enable ith the 6th gen. If so I want to send a feedback to Microsoft.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 vmware
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI GT83VR 7RF Titan SLI
    CPU
    i7 7820HK
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1080 2x SLI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Nahimic 3
If you are running VM using 6th gen, can you please enable enable Device Guard and Credential Guard and provide the result of the script Download Device Guard and Credential Guard hardware readiness tool from Official Microsoft Download Center and provide screenshots

You can disable them later, I just want to check if Device Guard and Credential Guard can be enable ith the 6th gen. If so I want to send a feedback to Microsoft.
I hope this gives you what you need, as I took a Macrium image before testing and am about to restore it ;)

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My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 vmware
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI GT83VR 7RF Titan SLI
    CPU
    i7 7820HK
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1080 2x SLI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Nahimic 3
Thanks, I hope you didn't restore yet, the -capable needed a restart to get the info if the your hardware can support it, you need to enable both "-Enable -HVCI" and "-Enable -CG "

If you have restored your VM, it is ok, thanks for doing it, I was thinking that the 6th gen can enable it.
Any CPU can run it, but it will be so slow without hardware support.
This was tested on a physical machine, a Dell Latitude E7240 on which I run my VMs. After using -capable it was restarted, the last part at the bottom of the composite screenshot was taken after the restart.

I have restored its image and the machine is currently busy building the 22000.65 ISO courtesy of UUPDump. When it's done I could run further tests if it helps.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro.

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds (and a few others) as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM SIX is a Dell Latitude 5550, Core Ultra 7 165H, 64GB RAM, 1TB NVMe SSD, supported device, Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Hyper-V host machine.
This was tested on a physical machine, a Dell Latitude E7240 on which I run my VMs. After using -capable it was restarted, the last part at the bottom of the composite screenshot was taken after the restart.

I have restored its image and the machine is currently busy building the 22000.65 ISO courtesy of UUPDump. When it's done I could run further tests if it helps.

I edited my post, 2015, 2016 2017, they require additional qualifications each year check the link Windows Defender Credential Guard Requirements (Windows 10) - Microsoft 365 Security


But I checked the requirement and the 6th gen should be fine, but maybe they are working on something new.

So even if they support 7th gen now, it maybe removed in the next release of windows 11.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 vmware
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI GT83VR 7RF Titan SLI
    CPU
    i7 7820HK
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1080 2x SLI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Nahimic 3
Are these high qualifying standards partly just to frighten us? At the museum where I am a volunteer, in our workshop, the old pc we use is running W10 20H2 with a core 2 duo with no problems. My laptop has the TPM embedded in the motherboard, but only has a gen 6 Intel processor,should I try updating to W11? The pc which I use daily is AMD which seems to have left out of this discussion
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    W11 pro beta
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    home built
    CPU
    Athlon 3000G
    Motherboard
    Asrock A320M-HDV r4.0
    Memory
    16Gb Crucial DDR4 2400
    Graphics Card(s)
    onboard cpu
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 22EA53
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD black SN750 M2 500Gb
    PSU
    500W Seasonic core 80+gold non modular
    Case
    Fractal Design Define R2
    Cooling
    front 2 x 120mm rear 100mm stock psu
    Internet Speed
    135/20
    Browser
    Firefox and edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Security and free Malwarebytes
  • Operating System
    W11 pro 64 beta (from W10 pro system builder pack)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI B450 tomahawk max II
    Memory
    4 x 8Gb Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000 DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    onboard cpu
    Sound Card
    motherboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AOC 27
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    WD 1Tb Black M2 SN850X on Asus hyper M2 X16 max V2 card
    PSU
    Be Quiet 400 semi modular 80+gold
    Case
    Coolermaster Silencio 650
    Cooling
    140mm front, 120 rear Akasa Vegas Chroma AM
    Internet Speed
    135/20
    Browser
    edge/Firefox
    Antivirus
    WD plus Malwarebytes free

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