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I am not doing a fresh windows install. I am building out the supported system and then installing the SATA SSD from my current computer. It runs 10 and has all my apps and files. Microsoft will upgrade it to 11 on line happily. I didn't buy an SSD for the rebuild. I have two spare SATA SSD's and will put one of them in what will become our backup system.
Up to a point, I totally agree with this statement. Where I disagree is, while most everything in 11 is either better or as acceptable as to the way it is in 10, a few changes to the interface are way worse when it comes to productivity, specifically:
Dead right about the lack of help from Microsoft, without lots of help from this forum and the W10 sister forum I would have had no idea.
I can't either but I can't say anything negative about it either. It is about the same thing.
Just my personal opinion: I thought that Microsoft did a good job clearly laying out the details...
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Reading the requirements MS posted, The systems has to be Secure Boot capable. It doesn't say Secure Boot has to be turned on. My new desktop came preloaded with Windows 10 Pro. When the Windows 11 Insider builds were released I Upgrade to Windows 11 Pro. Recently I found out that Secure Boot was never turned on. I don't know about clean installs but I do know it doesn't have to be turned on to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11. I did turn on Secure Boot once I found out it was off. I'm going to check my laptop later today when I fire it up to do the build update.
Not true in general, maybe true in some cases. I use regularly boot UFD based on Linux, which work perfectly with Secure Boot enabled. One example is a UFD with TeraByte IFL (Image for Linux).
11 runs just fine without TPM and secure boot. It just won't install without them. I have 10 year old computer running 11. TPM and secure boot didn't exist in those days.
Actually, it's rather trivial to install without either, especially if you are doing a clean install. Lots of discussions about that on this Forum.
That is funny :) the only thing I changed was the right click menu.What I find especially humorous is the users that upgrade to Windows 11 and then install all kinds of hacks and apps to make it look like/act like Windows 10
The trivial methods require hacks which are beyond what most windows users should do, I think. Possible, sure. Trivial, not in my view. I finished ugrading all my systems to 11 using an OS that I generated on a supported system and then added our software. I cloned it to the drive in each system and then changed the key. That isn't trivial either because it requires having at least one supported system. I have 11 everywhere except for one Linux machine and my wife's computer. My wife won't let me touch it. :)
I've got them both, only thing I don't have is the CPU. i5 CORE 7000U@2,50 Hz. It's installed and been running for 6 months now with no problems. Lots of discussions about THIS topic also on this Forum too. No one has been able to convince me to uninstall. It's running better than Win 10 was and faster. CPU doesn't seem to hinder it's performance. I know it's a borderline case (March 2017).
Well I tried to do what you say and failed. Since I am pretty knowledgeable about computers and once owned and operated a computer company, that makes it something other than trivial for me. I've read several posts explaining the process and not one worked for me. What worked for me was setting up 11 on a supported system and cloning drives from it. I can chalk it up to age, I suppose. I don't do things as well as I did as a young man.
C:\windows\system32>diskpart
Microsoft DiskPart version 10.0.22000.1
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.
On computer: RAIDER
DISKPART> list disk
Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
Disk 0 Online 953 GB 0 B *
Disk 1 Online 465 GB 0 B *
Disk 3 Online 127 GB 0 B
DISKPART> list volume
Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
Volume 0 F ESD-ISO UDF DVD-ROM 4327 MB Healthy
Volume 1 D Data NTFS Partition 945 GB Healthy
Volume 2 R RECOVERY FAT32 Partition 8191 MB Healthy
Volume 3 C Windows NTFS Partition 443 GB Healthy Boot
Volume 4 FAT32 Partition 100 MB Healthy System
Volume 5 WinRE tools NTFS Partition 980 MB Healthy Hidden
Volume 6 BIOS_RVY NTFS Partition 21 GB Healthy Hidden
Volume 7 E NTFS Partition 126 GB Healthy
DISKPART>DISKPART> select disk 3
Disk 3 is now the selected disk.
DISKPART> clean
DiskPart succeeded in cleaning the disk.
DISKPART> create part pri size=100
DiskPart succeeded in creating the specified partition.
DISKPART> active
DiskPart marked the current partition as active.
DISKPART> format fs=ntfs quick label="System Reserved"
100 percent completed
DiskPart successfully formatted the volume.
DISKPART> assign letter=s
DiskPart successfully assigned the drive letter or mount point.
DISKPART> create part pri
DiskPart succeeded in creating the specified partition.
DISKPART> format fs=ntfs quick label="Win11"
100 percent completed
DiskPart successfully formatted the volume.
DISKPART> assign letter=t
DiskPart successfully assigned the drive letter or mount point.
DISKPART> exit
Leaving DiskPart...
C:\windows\system32>f:
F:\>cd sources
F:\sources>dism /get-wiminfo /wimfile:install.esd
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 10.0.22000.1
Details for image : install.esd
Index : 1
Name : Windows 11 Home
Description : Windows 11 Home
Size : 15,918,540,541 bytes
Index : 2
Name : Windows 11 Home N
Description : Windows 11 Home N
Size : 15,229,765,223 bytes
Index : 3
Name : Windows 11 Home Single Language
Description : Windows 11 Home Single Language
Size : 15,921,439,394 bytes
Index : 4
Name : Windows 11 Education
Description : Windows 11 Education
Size : 16,201,186,274 bytes
Index : 5
Name : Windows 11 Education N
Description : Windows 11 Education N
Size : 15,500,722,223 bytes
Index : 6
Name : Windows 11 Pro
Description : Windows 11 Pro
Size : 16,198,033,078 bytes
Index : 7
Name : Windows 11 Pro N
Description : Windows 11 Pro N
Size : 15,515,196,102 bytes
The operation completed successfully.
F:\sources>dism /apply-image /imagefile:install.esd /index:6 /applydir:T:\
Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 10.0.22000.1
Applying image
[==========================100.0%==========================]
The operation completed successfully.
F:\sources>bcdboot T:\Windows /s S: /f BIOS
Boot files successfully created.
F:\sources>
