Why does Windows 11 need secure boot


So true.. and it goes past that. Many users don't know what the BIOS is for and how to modify it let along update it. As more and more people try to upgrade to 11 they'll run into loads of issues.. go to local shops and pay an arm/leg to have the upgrade done.
 

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BunnyJ said:
So true.. and it goes past that. Many users don't know what the BIOS is for and how to modify it let along update it. As more and more people try to upgrade to 11 they'll run into loads of issues.. go to local shops and pay an arm/leg to have the upgrade done.
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Well, we don't charge an arm and a leg. Provided that the user already has a genuine Windows 7 or later license, we charge 20-30€ for the work. If he also wants to upgrade hdd to SSD and RAM he also pays for the components. Not all professionals try to make a fortune from a single customer.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
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    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
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    Acer Extensa 5630
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    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
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    1
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    1280x800
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    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
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    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
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    Custom-built PC
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    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
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    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
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    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
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    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
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    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
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    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
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    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
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    100Mbps
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    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
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    Microsoft Windows Defender
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    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
spapakons said:
professionals
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But a true professional would not advise users to bypass Windows 11 requirements or actually do it for them in a shop even if done for free. Does not matter if the user is aware of the gotchas involved or what the computer is used for.
 

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spapakons said:
Well, we don't charge an arm and a leg. Provided that the user already has a genuine Windows 7 or later license, we charge 20-30€ for the work. If he also wants to upgrade hdd to SSD and RAM he also pays for the components. Not all professionals try to make a fortune from a single customer.
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That's your shop.. many don't price like you do.
 
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Porthos said:
But a true professional would not advise users to bypass Windows 11 requirements or actually do it for them in a shop even if done for free. Does not matter if the user is aware of the gotchas involved or what the computer is used for.
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Many shops that I know of are bypassing the requirements and their installing 11 on non compliant hardware.
 

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    Windows 11 Home(Release Preview) - 24H2 - 26100.3321
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
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    28" ASUS VP28U 4k & 32" Vioek 1080p
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    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
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BunnyJ said:
Many shops that I know of are bypassing the requirements and their installing 11 on non compliant hardware.
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Makes you wonder what other things they do. In the reputable repair business, they are called "Pizza Techs".
I have seen many over the years install bootleg software including Windows and Office. Ignore EULA's and more.
And many forum users encourage it. Not just here.


BunnyJ said:
That's your shop.. many don't price like you do.
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You have to charge what the market in the area will allow. Have to pay expenses like rent, insurance, employee payroll taxes, and more.
 

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Porthos said:
Makes you wonder what other things they do. In the reputable repair business, they are called "Pizza Techs".
I have seen many over the years install bootleg software including Windows and Office. Ignore EULA's and more.
And many forum users encourage it. Not just here.



You have to charge what the market in the area will allow. Have to pay expenses like rent, insurance, employee payroll taxes, and more.
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I took my rig to a local shop.. not a good experience. But when the guy found out that I was using 11 he was just about salivating over the prospects of the money he was going to make helping people go to 11 from 10

Most shops in my area charge 25-40 just to look a PC over and then the cost goes up. And yes... they also installed cracked code etc.. I did have a great shop but the guy went out of business after COVIID hit
 

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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
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    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
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    28" ASUS VP28U 4k & 32" Vioek 1080p
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    4K, 1080p
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    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    Zalman i3 NEO
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BunnyJ said:
I did have a great shop but the guy went out of business after COVIID hit
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Might want to try to find him and see if he just moved the business home/mobile instead of having the expense of a shop.
Many did. Most, enjoy working on computers but alas some either get burnt out or moved to the MSP model of computer service.
The "break/fix business model is not what was it was several years ago.
 

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Porthos said:
Might want to try to find him and see if he just moved the business home/mobile instead of having the expense of a shop.
Many did. Most, enjoy working on computers but alas some either get burnt out or moved to the MSP model of computer service.
The "break/fix business model is not what was it was several years ago.
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I don't think I'm going to need in anytime soon. My PC is working just great and I'm not doing anything to it.
 

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    Banana Junior 5600-G Series
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    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
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    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
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    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
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    28" ASUS VP28U 4k & 32" Vioek 1080p
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    4K, 1080p
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    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
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    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    Zalman i3 NEO
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BunnyJ said:
I don't think I'm going to need in anytime soon. My PC is working just great and I'm not doing anything to it.
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Do your hunting BEFORE the need arises. Good honest LOCAL techs are good to have. I have 20 years of happy clients that followed me home so to speak after shutting down 5 years ago.
 

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    Windows 10
BunnyJ said:
So true.. and it goes past that. Many users don't know what the BIOS is for and how to modify it let along update it. As more and more people try to upgrade to 11 they'll run into loads of issues.. go to local shops and pay an arm/leg to have the upgrade done.
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I personally think you're making this out to be more boogeyman than it is. I also think system builders will have no issues since we're used to dealing with the BIOS in setting up our systems anyway (I am).

And those who buy a vendor-built system should have no issues either as their system's BIOS has already been setup. The only people who "may" have issues are those who venture into something they're unfamiliar with.

That's me.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.4391)
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    Custom built
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    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
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    Radeon (XFX MERC 310) RX 7900XT
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    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
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    27-inch Eizo Color Edge - CG2700X
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    3840 x 2160
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    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
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    Corsair H115i Elite Capellix XT
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    Logitech Craft
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    2880 x 1800
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    Vapor Chamber Cooling
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    202. Build Your Own laptop.
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Technicians who discourage customers to upgrade to Windows 11 just because of some stupid system requirements are going to be beaten by the competition. It is a perfect chance to have more business as these customers cannot rely on Microsoft for official support and they are going to ask you for small price. And I never mentioned installing Windows 11 illegally. I always use a valid license and activate Windows with Microsoft, either online or by phone. Please don't spread false news. I don't want legal troubles. I post here to help. Thanks.
 

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    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
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    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
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    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
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    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
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    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
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    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
This thread is very US centric. Even in the UK (and most of Europe), it costs an arm and a leg to go to a computer repair shop, and they are not common either.

I think most users will just read message pc is not compatible and just not bother and will wait until they need a new pc. In my experience most people would not have a clue how to adjust settings in bios (or even have a clue what the bios even is).

Next time you have a group of (non computer savvy) friends around, ask them what bios is an anacronym for.

Then ask them what UEFI is (in Europe, I bet most people will guess football related LOL).

One of the side effects of modern computer technology is most people do not need to know basics of HOW a computer works, and consequently never learn. When I was a sprog, we had to understand some basics to use them.


The app that changed the world was visicalc. It enabled ordinary peopie to do complicated calculations without understanding how to write conventional computer programs. Of course, peole are programming when they create a spreadsheet but they just do not realise that!
 

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    Windows 11 Pro + Win11 Canary VM.
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    ASUS Zenbook 14
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    I9 13th gen i9-13900H 2.60 GHZ
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    Yep, Laptop has one.
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    16 GB soldered
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    Integrated Intel Iris XE
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    Realtek built in
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    laptop OLED screen
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    1 TB NVME SSD (only weakness is only one slot)
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    Internal + 65W thunderbolt USB4 charger
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    Yep, got one
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    Stella Artois (UK pint cans - 568 ml) - extra cost.
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    Built in UK keybd
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    Bluetooth , wireless dongled, wired
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    900 mbs (ethernet), wifi 6 typical 350-450 mb/s both up and down
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    Edge
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    Defender
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    TPM 2.0, 2xUSB4 thunderbolt, 1xUsb3 (usb a), 1xUsb-c, hdmi out, 3.5 mm audio out/in combo, ASUS backlit trackpad (inc. switchable number pad)

    Macrium Reflect Home V8
    Office 365 Family (6 users each 1TB onedrive space)
    Hyper-V (a vm runs almost as fast as my older laptop)
That takes me back in the 80's and 90's. You needed some basic knowledge about PC hardware and MS DOS commands to launch and play games. Almost any game of the era would ask for your graphics card, Hercules (monochrome), CGA (4 colors), EGA (16 colors) or VGA (16-256 colors). If you didn't know the answer, either the game would not run or you would play at a lower graphics quality than your hardware was capable of. Let alone you should know the appropriate MS DOS commands to change from hard disk to floppy, list the contents, detect the game executable and run it. Using the appropriate parameters if needed (such as the R parameter in Taito games used to change configuration). Today all they do is double click on the shortcut to launch the game.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
cereberus said:
One of the side effects of modern computer technology is most people do not need to know basics of HOW a computer works, and consequently never learn. When I was a sprog, we had to understand some basics to use them.
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And that's a problem as many early PC enthusiasts who built then, but don't now are finding things are not as they were yesteryear.

As a system builder since 1998 with my last build in 2019 (system specs), I had to learn about all sorts of things hardware, firmware (BIOS/UEFI) and software (Windows, drivers) and how they relate to each other. Extremely useful for troubleshooting and/or maintaining a properly operating PC.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.4391)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom built
    CPU
    Intel i9-9900K
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Aorus Z390 Xtreme
    Memory
    32G (4x8) DDR4 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (3600Mhz)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon (XFX MERC 310) RX 7900XT
    Sound Card
    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27-inch Eizo Color Edge - CG2700X
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2160
    Hard Drives
    5 Samsung SSD drives: 2X 970 NVME (512 & 1TB), 3X EVO SATA (2X 2TB, 1X 1TB)
    PSU
    EVGA Super Nova I000 G2 (1000 watt)
    Case
    Cooler Master H500M
    Cooling
    Corsair H115i Elite Capellix XT
    Keyboard
    Logitech Craft
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3
    Internet Speed
    500mb Download. 11mb Upload
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    System used for gaming, photography, music, school.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (Build 22631.4391)
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon (Gen 12)
    CPU
    Intel Core Ultra 7 165U vPro® Processor
    Motherboard
    Vendor
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz (Soldered)
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Graphics
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    14" 2.8K OLED, Anti Reflection, Touch, HDR 500, 400 nits, 120Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2880 x 1800
    Hard Drives
    1 TB SSD M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 Performance TLC Opal
    PSU
    Vendor
    Case
    Lenovo
    Cooling
    Vapor Chamber Cooling
    Mouse
    Touchpad: Haptic Touchpad
    Keyboard
    Backlit, Black with Fingerprint Reader and WWAN
    Internet Speed
    100MB
    Browser
    Edge Chromium
    Antivirus
    Windows Security
    Other Info
    202. Build Your Own laptop.
    vPro Certified Model: vPro Enterprise
When a user doesn't know how to do things, he reads this forum to find out. At least Windows is far easier than Linux where you have to go to the terminal for anything. In Ubuntu I go to ask ubuntu forum all the time. It is annoying.
 

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  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
spapakons said:
When a user doesn't know how to do things, he reads this forum to find out. At least Windows is far easier than Linux where you have to go to the terminal for anything. In Ubuntu I go to ask ubuntu forum all the time. It is annoying.
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Gee.. and not everyone knows this place exists.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Release Preview) - 24H2 - 26100.3321
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600-G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    28" ASUS VP28U 4k & 32" Vioek 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
spapakons said:
When a user doesn't know how to do things, he reads this forum to find out. At least Windows is far easier than Linux where you have to go to the terminal for anything. In Ubuntu I go to ask ubuntu forum all the time. It is annoying.
Click to expand...
I have to disagree. A user that doesn't even now this forum exist is not going read this forum.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Those that don't know this forum exist pay for our services or ask a friend.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (build 22631.4249) test laptop, Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894) main PC
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Extensa 5630EZ
    CPU
    Mobile DualCore Intel Core 2 Duo T7250, 2000 MHz
    Motherboard
    Acer Extensa 5630
    Memory
    4GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Mobile Intel(R) GMA 4500M (Mobile 4 series)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC268 @ Intel 82801IB ICH9 - High Definition Audio Controller
    Monitor(s) Displays
    1
    Screen Resolution
    1280x800
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 850 EVO 250GB SATA Device (250 GB, SATA-III)
    Internet Speed
    VDSL 50 Mbps
    Browser
    MICROSOFT EDGE
    Antivirus
    WINDOWS DEFENDER
    Other Info
    Legacy MBR installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, no WDDM 2.0 graphics drivers, no SSE4.2, cannot get more unsupported ;) This is only my test laptop. I had installed Windows 11 here before upgrading my main PC. For my main PC I use everyday see my 2nd system specs.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro v24H2 (build 26100.2894)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom-built PC
    CPU
    Intel Core-i7 3770 3.40GHz s1155 (3rd generation)
    Motherboard
    Asus P8H61 s1155 ATX
    Memory
    2x Kingston Hyper-X Blu 8GB DDR3-1600
    Graphics card(s)
    Gainward NE5105T018G1-1070F (nVidia GeForce GTX 1050Ti 4GB GDDR5)
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD audio (ALC887)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia KDL-19L4000 19" LCD TV via VGA
    Screen Resolution
    1440x900 32-bit 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB SSD as system disk, Western Digital Caviar Purple 4TB SATA III (WD40PURZ) as second
    PSU
    Thermaltake Litepower RGB 550W Full Wired
    Case
    SUPERCASE MIDI-TOWER
    Cooling
    Deepcool Gamma Archer CPU cooler, 1x 8cm fan at the back
    Mouse
    Sunnyline OptiEye PS/2
    Keyboard
    Mitsumi 101-key PS/2
    Internet Speed
    100Mbps
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge, Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Legacy BIOS (MBR) installation, no TPM, no Secure Boot, WDDM 3.0 graphics drivers, WEI score 7.4
So, what's the answer to the question? :unsure:
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
    Memory
    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ASUS ROG Zephyrus M GM501GS
    CPU
    Core i7-8750H
    Motherboard
    Zephyrus M GM501GS
    Memory
    SK Hynix 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) HMA82GS6CJR8N-VK 16 GB DDR4-2666 DDR4 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC294
    Monitor(s) Displays
    AU Optronics B156HAN07.1 [15.6" LCD]
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung MZVKW512HMJP-00000 512 GB, PCI-E 3.0 x4
    Samsung SSD 860 QVO 4TB 4 TB, SATA-III
    PSU
    N/A
    Case
    N/A
    Cooling
    N/A
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Keyboard
    PC/AT Enhanced PS2 Keyboard (101/102-Key)
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    USB2.0 HD UVC Webcam
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