Windows 12's Minimum Requirements: 16 GB RAM?


Someone thinks Windows 11 24H2 will be what people believe is 12, IIRC. An article I saw. Anyone heard of something like that?

Just worried that even my new powerhouse PC will get banned in possibly only 1.5-2 years!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 23H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    ASRock B550 PG Velocita (UEFI-BIOS P3.40)
    Memory
    32 GB G.Skill F4-3200C16D-32GVR
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sparkle Titan Arc A770 16 GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Alienware AW3423DWF OLED ultrawide
    Hard Drives
    Western Digital Black SN850 1 TB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 750 G3
    Case
    Corsair 275R
    Internet Speed
    VTel FTTH 1 Gb down and 1 Gb up
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Ryzen 7 5800X3D
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (UEFI-BIOS version 3607)
    Memory
    32 GB (2x16 GB G.Skill TridentZ Neo)
    Graphics card(s)
    Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 6750 XT
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro 512 GB NVMe SSD
    PSU
    eVGA Supernova 650 GQ
    Case
    Fractal Focus G
One of those i'll believe it when i see it. If it turns out to be the case, which again i still highly highly doubt, then it is what it is.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom
    CPU
    10700k@5.2
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Gaming X Z490
    Memory
    Viper Steelseries 32gb@ 3600mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte 2070 Super 8GB, +200 core + 600 memory
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS 4k HDR, Two 1080p Benq and Samsung
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160/2560x1440/1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Adata XPG SX8200 PRO 1tb
    Samsung EVO 870 500GB
    PSU
    Corsair RX 650
    Case
    NZXT h510
    Cooling
    CM HYPER 212 RGB
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata Chroma
    Mouse
    Steelseries Rival 710
I'm going to wait for MS to make an official statement before I believe what is posted about the next version of Windows. If they do go that route, I hope they either continue to update Windows 11 or release a version for those of us who don't need or want to use AI.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
For anybody who needs a computer for serious work (or serious gaming), Linux is useless.

So what if you use inferior tools like Libreoffice?

Linux will never take off as a serious desktop OS until it can natively run major mainstream Windows programs.

Anyway, Linux does not really exist ‐ it is just a generic name covering dozens of different sub versions.

In summary, use Linux - yawnnnnnnnn!
Nice rant. ;-)

I've never been a Linux user. But there is a Linux core. (Apparently still overseen by Linus Torvalds.) The various distributions are built on that. I can't speak to the compatibility of software across the vast number of distros.

The main issue that I have with Linux now is I worry about driver support. Application support is a more minor concern. (That would have been different before I retired. I used a Windows-only program. I stopped using it because it was subscription only, $800 per month. I was pretty sure I couldn't get enough consulting gigs to cover that.)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 26100.3025
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Amd Threadripper 7970X
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte TRX50 Aero D
    Memory
    128GB (4 X 32) G.Skill DDR5 6400 (RDIMM)
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 4090 OC
    Sound Card
    none (USB to speakers), Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 27E1N8900 OLED
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    Crucial T700 2TB M.2 NVME SSD
    WD 4TB Blue SATA SSD
    Seagate 18TB IronWolf Pro
    PSU
    BeQuiet! Straight Power 12 1500W
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo XL
    Cooling
    SilverStone Technology XE360-TR5, with 3 Phanteks T30 fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Internet Speed
    2000/300 Mbps (down/up)
  • Operating System
    windows 11 26100.3025
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    homebuilt
    CPU
    Intel I9-13900K
    Motherboard
    Asus RoG Strix Z690-E
    Memory
    64GB G.Skill DDR5-6000
    Graphics card(s)
    Gigabyte RTX 3090 ti
    Sound Card
    built in Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Asus PA329C
    Screen Resolution
    3840 X 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    WDC SN850 1TB
    8TB Seagate Ironwolf
    4TB Seagate Ironwolf
    PSU
    eVGA SuperNOVA 1300 GT
    Case
    Lian Li 011 Dynamic Evo
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech M500s (wired)
    Keyboard
    Logitech K120 (wired)
I'm going to wait for MS to make an official statement before I believe what is posted about the next version of Windows. If they do go that route, I hope they either continue to update Windows 11 or release a version for those of us who don't need or want to use AI.
Yup, I'll keep my powder dry until MS chimes in with the plans for Windows 12. Right now I don't have any need/use for AI, but who knows, in the future I might.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home(Release Preview) - 24H2 - 26100.3321
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Banana Junior 5600-G Series
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 5 5600G
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Strix B550-F
    Memory
    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 64GB 4x16
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN X
    Monitor(s) Displays
    28" ASUS VP28U 4k & 32" Vioek 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    4K, 1080p
    Hard Drives
    Primary SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
    Case
    Zalman i3 NEO
    Cooling
    ARCTIC Freezer 7 X
    Keyboard
    Corsair
    Mouse
    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Internet Speed
    Download: 295.11 mbps Upload: 65.35 mbps T-Mobile Internet
    Browser
    Firefox and Edge
    Antivirus
    MS - Defender
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch ProMedia 2.1
Makes sense to me -- who'd buy a modern PC with less than 16GB of RAM in it. Not sure about "The neural processing unit". Who'd build their own rig or buy a desktop with less than 16GB RAM too and a decently powerful CPU.

What to me is utterly pointless is on W11 insisting on the TPM -- a piece of hardware that's easily over 6 years old (a geological era ago in terms of electronics and technology) and I'd bet 99% of W11 installs don't use it nor does Windows 11 on their systems do anything with it especially on domestic systems.

If an OS requires the use of specific hardware then that hardware should be modern and the OS should use it.

Running a NAS server (at least 8 years old) with 2 physical Xeon processors in it and 64GB RAM I've no problem running several W11 VM's -- in fact I almost rarely run W11 on a physical system --usually only on a work supplied laptop -- but even then my gigs are often remote where I use my own system to connect to their cloud VDI system using any OS at my end.

Some might switch to Linux, some won't - but W11 EOL is still a long way off and I can't see what's wrong with a commercial OS making use of the most modern hardware available and not having to be backward compatable with older hardware.

Don't forget Linux is open source so people can write specific routines for all sorts of hardware whereas Windows is a commercial product and having to ensure that it runs on everything is an expensive business. The insistence of a 64 bit CPU for W11 was far too long delayed -- even W10 should have insisted on it.

For me the best future for Windows would be to have it built into a chip while just having proper api's for hardware to be connected to it.
That way no messing around with updates etc -- would be even better if the OS was read only with drivers etc loadable into RAM at boot as well as 3rd party software. Or 3rd party software could be licensed to Ms (as per Apple) and the CMOS chip containing the OS would be updated by a special Ms program.

Maybe this might upset people who like to tinker and customise systems -- perhaps Ms should also offer a "Developers edition" which would be the traditional OS -- give it away free but with no support other than urgent security fixes -- rather like IBM/Redhat does with RHEL Enterprise server -- you can get it free as an individual but for support "You are on your own".

@AK6DN

Agree on linux -- on my main laptop I run Arch Linux with KDE desktop and W11 as a VM under KVM/QEMU.

Note you CAN run W11 on older systems easily enough.
1) create a VM under KVM/QEMU. Use an external device for the VM's hard disk. GUI available if you install virt-manager. Ensure for TPM packages swtpm and swtpm-tools (or whatever it's called in your distro). This is the IBM TPM emulator and it works for Windows VM's.
2) ensure package for secure boot for VM installed -- usually called something like OVMF - although might be installed automatically when you install KVM/QEMU.
3) in the virtual machine set the TPM to emulated -->hypervisor default -->CRB or TIS 2.0 -- either will do
4) set the cpu to hypervisor default (uncheck the cpu -> use host configuration)
5) boot the vm with the windows iso install -- get one from UUPDUMP for the version you want.
6) boot ->repair system>command prompt
7) diskpart
8) create a small efi partition on the virtual disk and a windows standard ntfs partition.
9) use dism /Apply-Image to install windows.
10) use bcdboot to install the windows boot loader to the main windows partition.
11) after installing the VM boot it up and install some sort of disk cloning software -- macrium free will still work currently.
12) add your actual target disk for your Windows installation - but add as a PHYSICAL hard disk not as a Virtual hard disk

e.g add to the xml file in devices : (change /dev/sdc to what's approp[riate for your machine)

<disk type="block" device="disk">
<driver name="qemu" type="raw"/>
<source dev="/dev/sdc"/>
<target dev="vdb" bus="virtio"/>
</disk>

13) clone to this disk
14) power off and boot the windows disk
15) update drivers -- you'll need video / audio etc etc. Te TPM from the VM is fine as it's designed to run on Windows -

16) enjoy !!!

17) You don't need to - because this won't be a "daily use VM" but to get proper Video / mouse / audio etc you can install the virtio-tools for windows on the VM -- iso available from the fedora site - drivers are signed on latest iso so no probs with Windows install.

19) to update the target W11 after install - if it fails on unsupported hardware simply clone back to the VM, update and clone back again.

For the dism and bcdboot windows commands there's plenty of examples on the Forum.

@Sammy888

KDE desktop on Arch Linux -- just as easy to use as Windows.



Modern Linux distros have GUI's - some of which are almost more Windows than Windows -- KDE is a desktop that most windows users would have absolutely no problems in using. Linux Mint is another "Very Windows like" system too. Just download a live distro and try it out - it boots from a USB drive and won't mess your installed system - it doesn't even keep changes you make to the system while using it - everything is done in RAM and these are all discarded at shutdown.

Cheers
jimbo

Just installed Windows 11 Pro on my Windows 10 Pro (incompatbile Win11 h/w: Xeon CPU, TPM1.2) using VirtualBox 7.0.12.
Followed these instructions: How to install Windows 11 on VirtualBox VM - Pureinfotech
And it installed perfectly. So now I have a Windows 11 running via VM on my Windows 11 incompatible Windows 10 hardware.

I did a lot of work to make my Windows 10 look and act like Windows 7 / XP (ClassicShell/OpenShell/etc).
Don't know yet if I can make Windows 11 behave the same way. The native Win 11 user interface is not to my liking. At all.

I guess when/if I need to get new hardware that only runs WIn 11 or Win 12 I'll just package my Win 10 into a VM on Linux, I guess.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 in VirtualBox
  • Operating System
    Win10 on Xeon
Yup, I'll keep my powder dry until MS chimes in with the plans for Windows 12. Right now I don't have any need/use for AI, but who knows, in the future I might.
I just found something I may use Copilot for. I can use it to write any letters I may need written. As a test I just had it write a short love letter to my wife and it came out good. Not going to spend thousands of dollars on a new computer to do it though. :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
The 11th generation of Intel processors includes a GNA.
The Intel Gaussian and Neural Accelerator (GNA) is a hardware accelerator developed by Intel for processing artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) algorithms at the device level.
This is the minimum level of CPU support for Windows 12?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Microsoft Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI MS-7D98
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-13490F
    Motherboard
    MSI B760 GAMING PLUS WIFI
    Memory
    2 x 16 Patriot Memory (PDP Systems) PSD516G560081
    Graphics Card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G (GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD)
    Sound Card
    Bluetooth Аудио
    Monitor(s) Displays
    INNOCN 15K1F
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    WD_BLACK SN770 250GB
    KINGSTON SNV2S1000G (ELFK0S.6)
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 1000W
    Case
    CG560 - DeepCool
    Cooling
    ID-COOLING SE-224-XTS / 2 x 140Mm Fan - rear and top; 3 x 120Mm - front
    Keyboard
    Corsair K70 RGB TKL
    Mouse
    Corsair KATAR PRO XT
    Internet Speed
    100 Mbps
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Microsoft Defender Antivirus
    Other Info
    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/66553205
As a test I just had it write a short love letter to my wife and it came out good.
Don't need AI for that.
I just walk down (my computer room is at the first floor) and tell her I love her...:love:
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.4890
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Build by vendor to my specs
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
    Motherboard
    MSI PRO B550M-P Gen3
    Memory
    Kingston FURY Beast 2x16GB DIMM DDR4 2666 CL16
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GeForce GT 730 2GB LP V1
    Sound Card
    Creative Sound Blaster Audigy FX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung S24E450F 24"
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    1. SSD Crucial P5 Plus 500GB PCIe M.2
    2. SSD-SATA Crucial MX500-2TB
    PSU
    Corsair CV650W
    Case
    Cooler Master Silencio S400
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper H412R with Be Quiet Pure Wings 2 PWM BL038 fan
    Keyboard
    Cherry Stream (wired, scissor keys)
    Mouse
    Asus WT465 (wireless)
    Internet Speed
    70 Mbps down / 80 Mbps up
    Browser
    Firefox 130.0
    Antivirus
    F-secure via Internet provider
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZBox 7490
    Oracle VirtualBox 7 for testing software on Win 10 or 11
Make Windows 12 work on any PC, but the AI stuff limited to hardware that can support it...
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (RP channel)
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    MSI
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 8-core
    Motherboard
    MEG X870E Godlike
    Memory
    64GB Corsair Titanium 6000/CL30
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI Suprim X 3080 Ti
    Sound Card
    Soundblaster AE-5 Plus
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS TUF Gaming VG289Q
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 990 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 980 Pro 2TB
    Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1TB
    Samsung 870 Evo 4TB
    Samsung T7 Touch 1TB
    PSU
    Seasonic PX-2200
    Case
    Bequiet! Dark Base Pro 901
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S
    Keyboard
    Logitech G915 X (wired)
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 with PowerPlay charger
    Internet Speed
    900Mb/sec
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Winuser - Get your gun. Kees is living in your house.

Denis
Hmm, My computers are one on the first floor. Guess I'm going to have to apologies to my wife. I've been accusing her of drinking my beer. ;-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Windows 11 will be the last version of Windows I run. I do not game any more and I am not into any of This AI. Mostly all I do is Watch Videos and try to keep up with The News.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 26100.3323
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Alienware Aurora R16
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 14900F (24 -Core, 68 MB Total Cache)
    Motherboard
    Dell Alienware
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    RTX 4080 Super
    Sound Card
    Realtec
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Corsair XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    1-2TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    1-4TB Samsung 990 Pro PCIe NVMe M2 SSD
    PSU
    1000 Watt Platinum Dell
    Case
    Alienware
    Cooling
    Liquid Closed Loop
    Keyboard
    Corsair Strafe RGB MK.2
    Mouse
    Corsair M65 Pro
    Internet Speed
    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
    Browser
    Firefox 136.0
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Very Quiet And Fast
    CyberPower UPS CP1500PFCLCD
  • Operating System
    Optimum 11 24H2 Build 26100.2454 & Linux Mint 22.1
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuypower
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 1315u
    Motherboard
    ASRock
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    PNY RTX 4017
    Sound Card
    onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell 2419HGCF
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    Kingston 2TB SNV2S20006 PCIe 4.0 M.2.2280
    SAMSUNG 980 PRO SSD 2TB, PCIe 4.0 M.2 2280
    PSU
    850Watt
    Case
    Small
    Cooling
    Closed loop Liquid
    Mouse
    IBP
    Keyboard
    IBP
    Internet Speed
    1GB
    Browser
    Firefox 133.0
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
    Other Info
    Noisy but fast
A comment on the talk about Linux. I have a Linux Mint computer, mainly because it does 2 things for me better than Windows. One is running the GPARTED program [GNU Partition Editor] and the other is it can format drives larger than 32GB as FAT32. All the USB Thumb/Flash drives I've seen up to 256GB have been factory-formatted as FAT32 and I've done a 500GB HDD as FAT32. Only downside is still the 4GB single-file-size limit. Linux also works with many more formats than Windows and Mac.

As was mentioned earlier one doesn't have to do command line computing, out of the nearly 100 versions/editions of free Linux Operating Systems are a high number of GUI/Windows-type displays and functions such as games, multi-media, office-type suites, etc. Some of the programs such as LibreOffice and VLC are cross-platform, usable on Windows, Linux and even Mac.

And with things included such as Software Manager it's easy to get more of what a person wants.

Bottom line? Linux is a great choice for hardware that won't work with Windows.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win11 Pro RTM
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 3400
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 11th Gen. 2.40GHz
    Memory
    12GB
    Hard Drives
    256GB SSD NVMe M.2
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro RTM x64
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Vostro 5890
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 10th Gen. 2.90GHz
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics card(s)
    Onboard, no VGA, using a DisplayPort-to-VGA adapter
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24" Dell
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD NVMe, 4TB Seagate HDD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender/Microsoft Security
I just found something I may use Copilot for. I can use it to write any letters I may need written. As a test I just had it write a short love letter to my wife and it came out good. Not going to spend thousands of dollars on a new computer to do it though. :-)
Please post the best love letter, I'm in the doghouse.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
Please post the best love letter, I'm in the doghouse.
Why not put Copilot to the test? Ask Copilot for the best way to get out of the doghouse. :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I'm interested in the ones you got!
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Pro 24H2 26100.2894
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Swift SF114-34
    CPU
    Pentium Silver N6000 1.10GHz
    Memory
    4GB
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Cooling
    fanless
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot Secure Anywhere
    Other Info
    System 3

    ASUS T100TA Transformer
    Processor Intel Atom Z3740 @ 1.33GHz
    Installed RAM 2.00 GB (1.89 GB usable)
    System type 32-bit operating system, x64-based processor

    Edition Windows 10 Home
    Version 22H2 build 19045.3570
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro 23H2 22631.2506
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Mini 210-1090NR PC (bought in late 2009!)
    CPU
    Atom N450 1.66GHz
    Memory
    2GB
    Browser
    Brave
    Antivirus
    Webroot
I'm interested in the ones you got!
To get my love letter I asked Copilot to write a short love letter to my wife Mrs. Winuser. I was only testing to see what Copilot would write so I didn't keep it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I had Copilot write it again.

"My dearest Mrs. Winuser,



I wanted to take a moment to express how much I love and appreciate you. You are the light of my life, and I feel so lucky to have you by my side. Your unwavering support, kindness, and love have made me a better person, and I am forever grateful for that.



I cherish every moment we spend together, and I look forward to making many more memories with you in the future. You are my soulmate, my partner, and my best friend, and I can't imagine my life without you.



Thank you for being my rock, my confidant, and my everything. I love you more than words can express.



Forever and always,"

Mr. Winuser
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    #1. LG ULTRAWIDE 34" #2. AOC Q32G2WG3 32"
    Screen Resolution
    #1. 3440 X 1440 #2. 1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
4GB, 8GB, 12GB none of that will matter. Windows 12 will require TPM3.0 and an AI enabled processor.
So you will need to buy ANOTHER system to replace your aging 2023 system that can't be upgraded from Windows 11 or 10 anyway.
Microsoft is a marketing firm now and not a software development house.

Me, I'm stuck on Windows 10 because my system only has TPM1.2 and an unsupported CPU.
I have a 3.7GHz 4core/8thread XEON with 128GB of main memory but that is not good enough for Windows 11 it appears.

If I need to upgrade my hardware some day it will run Linux and maybe I'll do Windows XX in VirtualBox or whatever.
I read that, and all I can do is shake my head, and say, "NO! NO! NO!" ain't so McGee!
Get your b*** off of the MS train, and download your Windows ISO from a more progressive source, and say Goodby to all that TPM Crap. The Windows Core program does not require TPM anything!

I'm running Windows 11/Pro/64 on an OLD PC, Bios date 2008, with none of the Stipulations imposed by MS. I've simply got 16GB of RAM and a 500GB SSD. And, it runs GREAT with no problems. I don't understand why Y'alls can't do that. ???
 

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