Windows XP?

Berton · Nov 4, 2024

namitutonka said:
Went through MS-DOS 3.31 & 5.0, Windows (3.1 The install falsely promised lifetime updates)-95-98SE-2000-XP(remember Black Viper's services list?)-7-10 and 11. Skipped Vista and Windows 8. Past CPUs: 8086,8088,skipped 80286,80386SX,skipped 80486,Pentium,Athlon,Core i5.
Wow, I guess I have a few 'carbon footprints' getting here.

They just forgot to specify whose lifetime. I got started in '92 with MS-DOS 5 and Windows 3.1.

neemobeer · Nov 4, 2024

Windows will be 'the best' when it's written in a memory safe language such as Rust and not c and c++. This would elimate whole classes of vulnerabilities and other issues. That's my 2 cents

jimbo45 · Nov 4, 2024

Hi folks

Try this on a VM !!!

Windows XP Unofficial Service Pack 4 : harkaz : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Windows XP official support has ended. Many users - including me - who won't be able to upgrade their old machines to a newer OS would like to easily install...

archive.org

cheers
jimbo

Marcus Vinicus · Nov 4, 2024

Anyone here still sentimental about Windows 1.0?

pseymour · Nov 4, 2024

Marcus Vinicus said:
Anyone here still sentimental about Windows 1.0?

No.

antspants · Nov 4, 2024

Marcus Vinicus said:
Anyone here still sentimental about Windows 1.0?

I want to squirt lighter fluid on that guys suit jacket and set it alight. Sure, he can take it off first, if he has to.

namitutonka · Nov 4, 2024

jimbo45 said:
Hi folks

Try this on a VM !!!

Windows XP Unofficial Service Pack 4 : harkaz : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Windows XP official support has ended. Many users - including me - who won't be able to upgrade their old machines to a newer OS would like to easily install...

archive.org

cheers
jimbo

I remember Harkaz. DL'ing the .iso now!

namitutonka · Nov 4, 2024

cereberus said:
Huh - only reason for staying on XP is to run very old games. Only masochists would stay on it.

Try running MS Office since 2013.

I know for sure many of my works apps will not run on anything since Windows 8.

I love how people look at old OSs with rose coloured glasses conveniently forgetting how often they used to crash.

I remember XP crashing every day (BSOD equivalent).

Personally, I cannot remember last time W10/11 crashed with BSOD.

XP cannot run things like Hyper-V.

XP is simply not man enough to cope with modern systems.

No point in saying "ah but if..." as that is pure speculation.

In my opinion, XP should remain in dustbin of history, along with Vista, Windows 7/8.

Of course, nobody is stopping people using it but if they want to delude themselves XP is great, that is their prerogative.

On my Win11 box, I use Microsoft Office 2010, activated and with all updates. I never install Outlook or Powerpoint though. I mostly use Word, some Excel, and rarely (or notat all) Access. I've saved all the updates..SP2, security, etc., and two add-ins for Word (Mathematics,Chemistry). Would be glad to share the updates, and the whole Office 2010 suite, but not my Office 2010 license. I also have WinXPSP3, but you can't have my license for that either. :)

glasskuter · Nov 4, 2024

Nah, I'm not a sentimental gal and I don't miss XP. WU was always getting hosed up in XP and a PITA. It wasn't the updates themselves. Then in 7 it wasn't much better , but somewhat, but I loved everything else about 7 so if I had a sentimental bone in my body it would be for 7.
The update process got much better in 10, and so far my WU hasn't needed reset once in 11 so MS has gotten that part right. Now, if MS could only get their stuff together and get back to releasing updates that don't fail for everyone or send systems into a tailspin.

Berton · Nov 4, 2024

I have a Win7 Pro Desktop with Office 2007 on my LAN and also a couple Win10 Notebooks with Office 2000 with the Compatibility Pack added.

pparks1 · Nov 4, 2024

Yeah, xp was okay, but 7 and 10 are far better systems.

Almighty1 · Nov 5, 2024

I still run a Windows XP 32bit machine for one reason only, Symantec WinFax Pro as I still do send faxes regularly and that was the last version of Windows it supported.

cereberus · Nov 5, 2024

Almighty1 said:
I still run a Windows XP 32bit machine for one reason only, Symantec WinFax Pro as I still do send faxes regularly and that was the last version of Windows it supported.

The only places I know that use faxes still are emergency reponse centres where analogue phones still work when everything digital has gone down the pan.

Having said that, the UK analogue phone network is due to shut very soon.

lunatk · Nov 5, 2024

That is actually a wallpaper addin (a theme). It still keeps Windows 11 features

If you do this you will get Windows 7 Basic/Aero(??) theme. For some reason it works that way, and DWM is what does it. It still works!

Code:

taskkill /f /im DWM.exe

jimbo45 · Nov 5, 2024

Almighty1 said:
I still run a Windows XP 32bit machine for one reason only, Symantec WinFax Pro as I still do send faxes regularly and that was the last version of Windows it supported.

I run it too -- to cut Vinyl records from bespoke music and make album covers (LP / 45's) - the hardware only runs on XP = newer hardware costs around €30,000 plus those hideous subscription fees for using the software / licenses etc etc. Not viable since my old hardware works a treat and have perpetual licenses and with a resurgence in vinyl sourcing blank disks is not a problem any more !!!.

Cheers
jimbo

50ShadesOfDirt · Nov 5, 2024

Sure ... run XP to your heart's content.

If you are licensed (or can get at license keys), just run it forever in a VM (as suggested above). My copy runs just fine, and I can bring it up whenever I need to explore old tools, office xp or nearby, or whatever. MS abandoned it, but that never means we have to abandon it.

The HostOS (win or linux) and a virtualization package (VMware workstation, VirtualBox) provides all the modern access to things (hardware, printing, filesystems, etc.) you could ever want. XP can access all of that from within the VM. Your 32-bit XP giving you grief at 4GB of ram or less? Run two of them from within the HostOS, and now you effectively have up to 8GB ram for XP. Is it running a tad slow for you, on some older hardware? In a VM, on top of SSD and such, it now flies ...

HostOS provides the security, so from within the VM for XP, you need not worry about virii and whatnot ...

It just works, and you can do this anytime you want or need it ...

Almighty1 · Nov 6, 2024

cereberus said:
The only places I know that use faxes still are emergency reponse centres where analogue phones still work when everything digital has gone down the pan.

Having said that, the UK analogue phone network is due to shut very soon.

Not for that, in my case, it is for submitting credit card billing inquiries and disputes as they do not have a email option, everything is either postal which can easily get loss or fax.

jimbo45 · Nov 6, 2024

Almighty1 said:
Not for that, in my case, it is for submitting credit card billing inquiries and disputes as they do not have a email option, everything is either postal which can easily get loss or fax.

faxes are actually still quite useful since emailtends to be in 1000's a day for large businesses and often gets overlooked plus a fax is a hard copy and it's very hard to hack into old analog technology !!!

cheers
jimbo

Catnip · Nov 6, 2024

XP was OK, I suppose. I preferred the look and feel of Windows 7, but I have grudgingly accepted the clunky, ugly GUI of Win 11 because it is more powerful. Or at least seems to be.

I have XP running on an old PC that I use for burning EPROMS and as a logic analyzer. Both programs for these things won't work on anything but XP no matter what compatibility setting I select, and they won't run from a VM as they require a hardware interface that can't be seen from within the VM.

So I guess I will have XP in my life for a while yet.

spapakons · Nov 7, 2024

Ghot said:
It would be nice if it were real. ^^

Windows XP x64, supporting 128GB of RAM.

View attachment 83433

Smile, it IS possible, see here:

GitHub - evgen-b/PatchPAE3: PAE patch for Windows 2K/XP - 10

PAE patch for Windows 2K/XP - 10. Contribute to evgen-b/PatchPAE3 development by creating an account on GitHub.

github.com

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