Zorin OS 17.1 has been released

johnlgalt · May 20, 2024

I hate to say it, but there are plenty of Windows fanbois who do the same.

This place (and its sister sites listed below) is very good at nipping fanboism in the bud and not allowing it to proliferate.

As a primary user of first Fedora Core (starting with v2) and then Gentoo, I also found folks like that - but I also found just as many people like we have here - folks like @Kari, @Bree, @OAT, @NavyLCDR, and countless others who actually know WTF they are talking about, and give you an answer without being bombastic about it.

If I hadn't, I probably wouldn't have continued to pursue using Gentoo (and a few derivatives of it) as long as I have.

The biggest thing I've found with Linus distros is that I rarely find something being advertised as working and it not work - unlike Windows.

The biggest reason I don't use it as a daily driver is that things that most decidedly don't work are the same things I need to have access to - like the plethora of PC Games that only run in Windows. Though, admittedly, that list is a lot smaller than it used to be, it's still there.

SlicEnDicE · May 21, 2024

Excuse me...but many Linux distributions are more stable than Windows. It's when you add a bunch of stuff in the wrong place, use latest dev releases of libraries and go manually configuring something that you don't have full comprehension about, that makes Linux come down crashing. Same happens with Windows though...

Please note, I am mainly a Windows user, because of certain apps and tools that does not exits on Linux. But in my experience I can go with a Linux distribution online for months and even years without having to reboot, while on Windows the longest I've gone is about 3-4months...then I had to reboot because everything was so slow. Windows has gotten a lot better in this aspect though...HUGELY better.

Neither OS is better...I use both...because each has their strengths and weaknesses. The gap is getting smaller though...so in the future you can use either and be happy as long as your hardware supports the OS.

cereberus · May 21, 2024

SlicEnDicE said:
Excuse me...but many Linux distributions are more stable than Windows. It's when you add a bunch of stuff in the wrong place, use latest dev releases of libraries and go manually configuring something that you don't have full comprehension about, that makes Linux come down crashing. Same happens with Windows though...

Please note, I am mainly a Windows user, because of certain apps and tools that does not exits on Linux. But in my experience I can go with a Linux distribution online for months and even years without having to reboot, while on Windows the longest I've gone is about 3-4months...then I had to reboot because everything was so slow. Windows has gotten a lot better in this aspect though...HUGELY better.

Neither OS is better...I use both...because each has their strengths and weaknesses. The gap is getting smaller though...so in the future you can use either and be happy as long as your hardware supports the OS.

Yeah the gap is now 2.99 light years rather than 3 light years.

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The Pool Man · May 24, 2024

andrew129260 said:
I have had decent success with ubuntu and zorin, but when there is an issue, which def happens more than windows, it's a pain in the you know what to fix. And yes the community is very "off" compared to windows forums which are usually very helpful.

This is the most helpful forum of anything I've ever seen

jimbo45 · May 25, 2024

If you want Linux use a sensible distro - Main ones -- Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE, either as a bootable live option, or as a VM, or using the Linux subsystem for Window, or on a separate partition. As a GUI desktop any of those can have Linux Mint, KDE, or GNOME as good easy to use Windows like desktops.

Things like Zorin OS just confuse even experienced Linux users and probably would put "newbies" off for life.

The sensible option IMO is from Windows is to install Linux as a VM and then you can play with it to your hearts content -- also with VM's you can run different distros concurrently so you can compare to choose what you like -- and if you hose it all up just delete the VM and start again --no harm done or windows system corrupted.

cheers
jimbo

SlicEnDicE · May 25, 2024

jimbo45 said:
As a GUI desktop any of those can have Linux Mint, KDE, or GNOME as good easy to use Windows like desktops.

You probably meant Cinnamon, which is the preferred DE on Mint. Very Windows like experience.

Sqrly · Jul 17, 2024

I installed Zorin 17.1 (with advanced nvidia driver support) on my old Z87, i7 4790K, GTX 1050Ti today.

It looks like Win 7 so far.

I haven't tested it too much because I don't have a long enough cat cable handy LOL

Berton · Jul 17, 2024

I have Linux Mint 21 on a Desktop and a Notebook plus on a Linux Live USB Thumb drive, works good for my needs by including the programs I need. I also have Zorin 17 on a Thumb drive, looks good.

Sqrly · Jul 17, 2024

@Brink

Do you run a Zorinforum?

I've found the Zorin support pages useless thus far. I'm trying and failing to connect to a windows shared folder. I tried 'smb://192.168.xx.xxx.local/Shared Media', that pops up the ui to enter the name/pass. I keep getting invalid argument after entering name, domain, password.

Not sure about domain, my pc's do use a unique workgroup name, I put that in too.

One thing that gave me trouble before was that the windows share has a space in the name. I can mount it with my Raspberry Pi4 using the following info.

Code:

Manual mount

sudo mount -t cifs -o username=xxxxx,password=xxxxx "//192.168.xx.xxx/Shared Media" /mnt/Media

Auto-mount at boot (server must be awake)

To Auto mount the network shares on boot edit the /etc/fstab file:

sudo nano /etc/fstab

Append the following to the /etc/fstab file. For password protected log in:

//192.168.77.104/Shared\040Media/ /mnt/Media cifs username=xxxxx,password=xxxxx 0 0

To unmount sudo umount "//192.168.xx.xxx/Shared Media"

Brink · Jul 17, 2024

Sqrly said:
@Brink

Do you run a Zorinforum?

I've found the Zorin support pages useless thus far. I'm trying and failing to connect to a windows shared folder. I keep getting invalid argument after entering name, domain, password.

Not sure about domain, my pc's do use a unique workgroup name, I put that in too.

One thing that gave me trouble before was that the windows share has a space in the name. I can mount it with my Raspberry Pi4 using the following info.

Code:

Manual mount sudo mount -t cifs -o username=xxxxx,password=xxxxx "//192.168.xx.xxx/Shared Media" /mnt/Media Auto-mount at boot (server must be awake) To Auto mount the network shares on boot edit the /etc/fstab file: sudo nano /etc/fstab Append the following to the /etc/fstab file. For password protected log in: //192.168.77.104/Shared\040Media/ /mnt/Media cifs username=xxxxx,password=xxxxx 0 0 To unmount sudo umount "//192.168.xx.xxx/Shared Media"

Sorry, but no. You're welcome to post in this forum to see if any may help though.

Sqrly · Jul 17, 2024

Brink said:
Sorry, but no. You're welcome to post in this forum to see if any may help though.

Update: I changed to computer name and workgroup instead of ip and workgroup and it worked.

smb://PC-Name/Shared Media/

XxXxX · Jul 18, 2024

i used Ubuntu from 04.10 up until 24.04 they have now moved Ubuntu in to realms i dont wish to go.
snaps and making difficult to install independent deb files. i found Ubuntu to just work, well it did for me.
so i come back to Windows after 20 years and have found Windows 11 very good. a vast improvement on the past apart from data collection, but thats easy enough to put a stop to and i had forgotten about all the programs, past and present, that can run on Windows.

so i will stick with Windows until Microsoft gets really silly, again.
best of luck. Steve ..

Silvio · Jul 18, 2024

I'm originally a UNIX Developer from back in the 90s, who moved over to Linux.

In my decades of experience, I've learned, happiness is, separate bare metal machines, for running Linux, and Windows.

Hazel123 · Jul 20, 2024

Sqrly said:
I installed Zorin 17.1 (with advanced nvidia driver support) on my old Z87, i7 4790K, GTX 1050Ti today.

It looks like Win 7 so far.

I haven't tested it too much because I don't have a long enough cat cable handy LOL

Didnt you find it very slow? I did.

Berton · Jul 20, 2024

Silvio said:
In my decades of experience, I've learned, happiness is, separate bare metal machines, for running Linux, and Windows.

Me, too, but just a couple decades. I'm running Linux Mint 21 on an Intel i7 Desktop I was given for parts. I have Zorin 17 on a USB Thumb drive and didn't see much in slowness but that's to be expected with USB.

cereberus · Jul 21, 2024

Silvio said:
I'm originally a UNIX Developer from back in the 90s, who moved over to Linux.

In my decades of experience, I've learned, happiness is, separate bare metal machines, for running Linux, and Windows.

Happiness is a cigar called Hamlet

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Sqrly · Aug 7, 2024

Hazel123 said:
Didnt you find it very slow? I did.

It does the same thing windows does when cold booted. It puts the screen and start menu up before everything is running in the background and the check for updates is finished to give the illusion of fast start up.

Once fully 'warmed up' or woke from suspend, I don't really notice a difference in speed between it and windows. Which saying is alot because I'm comparing win11 on a new i9-14900K powered PC to Zorin on my old i7-4790K system. I supposes if I look for it the Windows system is faster, windows pop open faster, but that's hardware, it's the same with the old PC running win10.

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