ASUS motherboards Ready for Windows 11

Zardoc · Aug 27, 2021

People are confused because bios updates are enabling TPM and users are asking if they need that update to run Windows. Others are rushing out to buy a chip because board makers said that their board would not be supported, now the info is changing and that's what's causing confusion.

And yes, a full tutorial is the best way to make sure users have this information clearly spelled out for them. Now, if the info would stop changing it would be easier to understand

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It also didn’t help that Microsoft originally had a second webpage with contradictory information, one which it changed a couple hours after we published this story. According to the original version of the page, the true minimum requirements were TPM 1.2 and a 64-bit dual-core CPU that’s 1GHz or greater, but the new page now clarifies it requires TPM 2.0 and a processor that Microsoft has explicitly certified as compatible

Why Windows 11 is forcing everyone to use TPM chips

You probably already have one, but it may not be enabled.

www.theverge.com

BunnyJ · Aug 27, 2021

Zardoc said:
People are confused because bios updates are enabling TPM and users are asking if they need that update to run Windows. Others are rushing out to buy a chip because board makers said that their board would not be supported, now the info is changing that's what's causing confusion.

I doubt that's causing confusion. The BIOS update simply enables TPM 2 and secure boot. I did it so I know what it did. I don't see any information changing. All I see is more click bait by publications to stir the pot.

Zardoc · Aug 27, 2021

BunnyJ said:
I doubt that's causing confusion. The BIOS update simply enables TPM 2 and secure boot. I did it so I know what it did. I don't see any information changing. All I see is more click bait by publications to stir the pot.

You and I know that but in the Rog forum the question was asked. And you don't need a bios update to turn it on, you need a bios update if you don't know how to turn it on and want it turned on (Asus called Win 11 ready bios update). I haven't installed a bios update for that and won't either because my PTT is enabled in BIOS.

SlicEnDicE · Aug 27, 2021

@Zardoc if you own an Asus Z270 motherboard it should already have PTT but it is disabled by default. The BIOS updates that are coming from Asus now are just to enable PTT/fTMP by default, not to add that feature.

Zardoc · Aug 27, 2021

SlicEnDicE said:
@Zardoc if you own an Asus Z270 motherboard it should already have PTT but it is disabled by default. The BIOS updates that are coming from Asus now are just to enable PTT/fTMP by default, not to add that feature.

Yes you are right. I stand corrected. And for those who wanted to know what happens if you have a chip and PTT in your bios, well you will have a choice between dPTM (chip) and PTT (firmware)

larc919 · Aug 27, 2021

Zardoc said:
Yes you are right. I stand corrected. And for those who wanted to know what happens if you have a chip and PTT in your bios, well you will have a choice between dPTM (chip) and PTT (firmware)

I'm wondering whether the chip or bios version is better or if it matters. I have a chip my main PC can use, but haven't put it in yet. Now using the bios TPM setting instead.

Zardoc · Aug 27, 2021

larc919 said:
I'm wondering whether the chip or bios version is better or if it matters. I have a chip my main PC can use, but haven't put it in yet. Now using the bios TPM setting instead.

It was discussed here.

ASUS motherboards Ready for Windows 11

A diverse range of ASUS motherboards are ready for the latest Windows 11 Insider Preview build. Users can enable Windows 11 support on their motherboard by following one of the two methods below: Update to the latest BIOS to get Windows 11 support Click on the below support list to download...

www.elevenforum.com

If it's just to run Win 11, PTT firmware is all you need.

Zardoc · Aug 27, 2021

Rahulji said:
So, how to setup this two items in Asus AMD BIOS? on is enable CPU TPM 2.0 and the second for RESET TPM, this second has to be Disabled, then? thx

I dont know for amd boards, but I posted for Intel a few posts above. Post #85.

barman58 · Aug 27, 2021

I think that the initial issues with the BIOS was that some motherboard manufacturers used the chipset that contained PTT or fTPM firmware but never made the ability to switch it on available in the BIOS.

The majority who fitted the PTT / fTPM made it available in the bios but defaulted to not enabled.

The first group of motherboards require a new BIOS to activate the PTT / fTPM,

The second group can be manually switched on, [although ASUS are updating the BIOS on their boards for Windows 11 Compatibility, by defaulting to ON]

PerpetualCycle · Aug 27, 2021

geneo said:
??? What I posted were CVE for chips.

larc919 said:
I'm wondering whether the chip or bios version is better or if it matters. I have a chip my main PC can use, but haven't put it in yet. Now using the bios TPM setting instead.

I think the PTT TPM is in all probability just as good/secure as the discrete plug-in chips.

erpster4 · Sep 1, 2021

SlicEnDicE said:
@Zardoc if you own an Asus Z270 motherboard it should already have PTT but it is disabled by default. The BIOS updates that are coming from Asus now are just to enable PTT/fTMP by default, not to add that feature.

for Z270 motherboards yes, the PTT option should be there in BIOS setup
for Z170 boards, on the other hand, no - PTT is not available (or not listed in BIOS setup) for many of those boards
Asus did not provide bios updates for the Z170s

clam1952 · Sep 1, 2021

erpster4 said:
for Z270 motherboards yes, the PTT option should be there in BIOS setup
for Z170 boards, on the other hand, no - PTT is not available (or not listed in BIOS setup) for many of those boards
Asus did not provide bios updates for the Z170s

My Asus Z170 P does have the bios setting and the PTT in the bios, had to enable Intel Virtualisation Technology before the entry appeared though. As I posted elswhere on here that was a lucky guess as nothing in the Manual or from Asus. Pointless exercise though as my i7-6700K isn't supported passes the TPM2 test though.

i486 · Sep 1, 2021

clam1952 said:
My Asus Z170 P does have the bios setting and the PTT in the bios, had to enable Intel Virtualisation Technology before the entry appeared though. As I posted elswhere on here that was a lucky guess as nothing in the Manual or from Asus. Pointless exercise though as my i7-6700K isn't supported passes the TPM2 test though.

ASUS's policy is weird. My Z170-Deluxe is part of the same family of white & blue branded boards, yet there's no PTT setting. It has a physical slot for TPM but I suspect yours does too. Is the P-model part of the high-end of this lineup or did it simply replace one of them? Pointless musings though, as you wrote.

clam1952 · Sep 2, 2021

i486 said:
ASUS's policy is weird. My Z170-Deluxe is part of the same family of white & blue branded boards, yet there's no PTT setting. It has a physical slot for TPM but I suspect yours does too. Is the P-model part of the high-end of this lineup or did it simply replace one of them? Pointless musings though, as you wrote.

It has the pinout where the TPM slot should be marked as TPM but no physical socket, Z170-P is probably mid range Z170-Deluxe would be at the high end.

i486 · Sep 6, 2021

clam1952 said:
It has the pinout where the TPM slot should be marked as TPM but no physical socket, Z170-P is probably mid range Z170-Deluxe would be at the high end.

I just checked and there's no TPM/PTT option where it should be in "Advanced/PCH Configuration", or anywhere in "Advanced". Intel Virtualization Technology is enabled, but so is CSM despite secure boot also being so. They can't both be enabled, and since Windows and other applets report that secure boot is on, then it must be enabled and CSM isn't fully supported.

I wonder if the state of that CSM setting is still keeping the TPM/PTT settings hidden, I doubt it but some have reported that fully disabling CSM makes the settings appear. One thing is certain, plugging a TPM module into the motherboard should force the TPM setting to appear. I suppose ASUS was just lazy with these boards, implementing PTT support in BIOS depending on whether they have a physical slot or not.

DianaXO · Sep 6, 2021

Mine MB is Asus H110M-CS , and already supports TPM and i can fully activate it, but due to i3 7100 , Micro$oft is saying that my PC is not compatible because of CPU , really ? :)))

clam1952 · Sep 6, 2021

i486 said:
I just checked and there's no TPM/PTT option where it should be in "Advanced/PCH Configuration", or anywhere in "Advanced". Intel Virtualization Technology is enabled, but so is CSM despite secure boot also being so. They can't both be enabled, and since Windows and other applets report that secure boot is on, then it must be enabled and CSM isn't fully supported.

I wonder if the state of that CSM setting is still keeping the TPM/PTT settings hidden, I doubt it but some have reported that fully disabling CSM makes the settings appear. One thing is certain, plugging a TPM module into the motherboard should force the TPM setting to appear. I suppose ASUS was just lazy with these boards, implementing PTT support in BIOS depending on whether they have a physical slot or not.

Boot > CSM (Compatibilty Support Module) > Launch CSM > Auto which is what mine is on.

Advanced > CPU Configuration > Intel Virtulization Technology > Enable

Then the TPM should appear under - Advanced
Advanced - Trusted Computing > Security Device > Enable

That should do it in theory.

Zardoc · Sep 6, 2021

The Z170-P is the startup model for the mid range Prime series.
Some reports from Reddit and Win-raid forums say that it can be activated with bios mod

Cannot enable Intel PTT (TPM 2.0) at ASUS motherboard

I have an ASUS Z170-A motherboard with an Intel Core i7-6700K CPU (latest BIOS 3802 and IME firmware); I just can’t figure where and how to enable Intel PTT: Intel Platform Trust Technology - PRESENT/DISABLED There is no PTT setting anywhere in the BIOS. I never had any use for it, so I never...

www.win-raid.com

Mind you that second article is for the Z170-A which is a bit higher end in the family but I suspect the fix is the same.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ASUS/comments/owbuf3

but I would only test this theory on my own machine not someone else's rig

Dru2 · Sep 7, 2021

Please be aware not all BIOS settings or layouts re going to read or look the same. It is always best to find the instructions for your specific board or PC and follow those instructions.

@Zardoc not sure what those instructions are but you certainly don't need to do all of that. To be quite frank I'm not sure the author of those instructions understood what they were doing.

Yeah, they may have "round-about" their way into some fix, but there's no need to do all of that just to toggle a BIOS switch (enable PTT/TPM). Its also unclear on why they did what they did and why others need to do it.

Those instructions aren't going to do anything but get a novice lost and frustrated. I'm experienced and I'm confused

clam1952 · Sep 7, 2021

My Z170-P does have the setting in the bios although I had to jump through hoops to get it to appear, Bios 3805 if that helps anyone anywhere. I had assumed that higher spec boards would have the settings also, not that it's going to really help as you can't stick an 8th gen or higher CPU in a Z170.
Not a bios hacking enthusiast, some things are best left to the manufacturer.
Those instructions don't even appear to say what bios version is being hacked, bioses can change between updates, extremely risky IMO.

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