Can I install 24H2 without being an Insider?


IanMosley said:
I think you will find that it is Build(26100.1724)
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Sorry. I posted redundantly in a different thread.

Do you know how to find the build number without installing it?

Regardless, I assume that it'll go to 1882 via Windows Update.
 

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I am having a bit of difficulty changing resolution in 1742. stuck on max res in winpe

2024-09-29_201545.jpg
 

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    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

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bobkn said:
Do you know how to find the build number without installing it?
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Download the 'Create Windows 11 Installation Media' tool.
Run as far as this window -
1.png

DO NOT ACCEPT THE TERMS

In the root of your OS drive, select $Windows.~WS folder => Sources => products.xml and click on this file

It should open a window in your browser thus

1.png
 

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Thanks.

If it's 1742, things are a bit academic. I have that ISO already from uupdump.net (from 10 September).
 

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Kees said:
No, downloading an 'official' 24H2 ISO is not possible without a rather complicated way around.
That way around I used several times, you find it here:
uupdump.net

UUP dump

UUP dump lets you download Unified Update Platform files, like Windows Insider updates, directly from Windows Update.
uupdump.net

But why don't you just wait until MS publices the official 24H2 to all users?
Expectation is end of October, any way before the end of the year.
My opinion: if you don't have a test environment, better not update to a none-official version of any software with your main system.
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Thanks. I'll probably wait for the official release.
 

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glasskuter said:
I'm known as the old lady around here so my 2 cents can be takn for what its worth.
To each his own for what anyone wants to do with what belongs to him, but I'm more a proactive user. I like having the latest and greatest just as much as the next user...on a test machine. But for one's daily driver, jumping the gun just for the sake of it makes absolutely no sense to me unless one actually wants to deal with unforseen issues or downtime.

Common sense tells me for my working machine, to leave it alone. I get my updates through normal channels and in normal time. I mean, at this point, in your case what do you gain...taking a gamble rather than waiting for less than a month.

If I get a wild hair to be experimental, I may put a test machine through its paces by running an insider build, but never the machine I use for daily use. My advise to anyone is and will always be to not take any risk that might leave you without a computer where your have to borrow one or be at the mercy of having to use a cell phone for troubleshooting as we see many users here doing. It boggles my mind that people do that.
Lord knows there are enough Windows problems we have to deal with anyway that we have no control over without making problems for ourselves.

If one does choose to be adventurous, go for it. Hope for the best, but PLEASE always prepare for the worst. Image your system before you start.
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100%. I was on Canary using it as daily until it just got so unstable I had to reformat. Bad habit from the good ol' XP SP Betas days!
I'll just wait for the official release.
 

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ultimate99 said:
100%. I was on Canary using it as daily until it just got so unstable I had to reformat. Bad habit from the good ol' XP SP Betas days!
I'll just wait for the official release.
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It‘s already here, yesterday.

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antspants said:
It‘s already here, yesterday.

www.elevenforum.com

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What is new in Windows 11 version 24H2

Microsoft Learn: Windows 11, version 24H2 is a feature update for Windows 11. It includes all features and fixes in previous cumulative updates to Windows 11, version 23H2. This article lists the new and updated features IT Pros should know. Looking for consumer information? See Windows 11 2024...
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No problem - you can also get the ISO via UUPDUMP.

even the language thing works OK

Screenshot_20241002_131137.png


(If you do an Update with some languages - the whole languge thing gets hosed up - but that's fixable too -- simply UNINSTALL the added language you had before, re-boot, and then re-install the lang pack and set the various things like admin setting etc and then it works again OK --)

Cheers
jimbo
 

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I still don't see it in the "Update", how long will it take until it will be visible to those who can't see it?
 

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cecticalli said:
I still don't see it in the "Update", how long will it take until it will be visible to those who can't see it?
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Update for 24H2 will be phased (don't know details) you can certainly download the ISO and mount it as shown above and it will check if its compatible. I did that to one of my PC's yesterday - it's a simple process and fairly risk free if you make a backup first.
Interestingly, having installed the MS 24h2 running update found a cumulative update was available.
 

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