Solved CMD format ssd for install

ThrashZone · Dec 5, 2023

Here's the lappy

zebal · Dec 5, 2023

@ThrashZone
I'm not sure if I can help you with non standard partition layout, I always partition my drive prior Windows installment myself but according to docs, only because I want to perform slow format on drive where Windows will be installed.

If you let Windows installer create partitions it will perform quick format which might lead to issues with the new OS, that's why doing it yourself with SHIFT+F10 to open CMD during installment and run your script is better method.

ThrashZone · Dec 5, 2023

hsehestedt said:
Why on earth would you want to put the recovery partition at the beginning? Microsoft's recommendation is to create the Recovery Tools partition immediately AFTER the Windows partition. The reason for this is so that Windows can resize the partition if needed with future Windows upgrades (if you need details on how this works let me know).

In any case, below is a complete diskpart script. You can rearrange the partitions if you want as well as the sizes. This is simply meant to give an example of how to manually partition the drive.

One final note: If you are installing Windows manually (not using an answer file), Windows automatically creates the recovery tools partition last as is suggested.

Code:

REM Wipe disk 0 select disk 0 clean REM Create a 260 MB EFI partition. NOTE: 100 MB is okay, but 260 MB ensure compatibility with all drives since advanced REM format 4k drives will have a 260 MB minimum for a FAT32 partition create partition efi size=260 format fs=fat32 quick label="System" Create an MSR partition. This type of partition does not get formatted. create partition msr size=128 REM Create a Windows partition. Do not specify a size. This cause it to occupy all remaining space on the disk. REM After creating, shrink by 2 GB to make room for the Recovery Tools partition. You can change that size to anything. create partition primary shrink desired=2048 format fs=ntfs quick label="Windows" REM Since we shrank the partition by 2 GB, create the Recovery partition without specifying a size. REM This will cause it to occupy all remaining space (in this case 2 GB). REM Note that for a recovery partition we have to set a specific ID and attribute. create parttion primary set id=de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac GPT ATTRIBUTES=0x8000000000000001 format FS=NTFS quick label="Recovery Tools" REM Type exit to exit from diskpart. If you are using these commands in a diskpart script, REM leave off the exit exit

Hi,
Thanks starting out with the same as Bree posted was pretty unnecessary mate
Praising or stating ms policy when it was them screwing up peoples disks for decades is now some sort of saint for throwing it on the end of a 1-2-4 tb ssd is well insane to say the least !

Second part is all you needed to post which is appreciated 2nd post as well

ThrashZone · Dec 5, 2023

zebal said:
@ThrashZone
I'm not sure if I can help you with non standard partition layout, I always partition my drive prior Windows installment myself but according to docs, only because I want to perform slow format on drive where Windows will be installed.

If you let Windows installer create partitions it will perform quick format which might lead to issues with the new OS, that's why doing it yourself with SHIFT+F10 to open CMD during installment and run your script is better method.

Yep live and learn the processes
I read a little and thought I had it down to give it a try but most weren't the same assortment I see why I failed but since I left the room it is doable now

ThrashZone · Dec 12, 2023

Hi,
@SIW2
Got around to using disk genius :thumbsup:

Little different no clear save on the reserved partition bit but popup messages helped and got it done
Didn't add a clear label as system reserved and just shows other but we'll see if ms uses it soon enough lol

I also extended the efi to 260mb it was this before the clean install so did it before the system reserved

Nice app seems it does everything clones/ system image/.... the interface needs a little updating but all and all system still boots so we'll call a win-win
Thank you for your help !

SIW2 · Dec 12, 2023

I like the ui the other ones are for kids.

Wynona · Dec 12, 2023

POLYSIUS said:
This is stupid! But you refuse to learn s.th.

Sir, we don't insult each other in these forums. Please refrain.

ThrashZone · Dec 13, 2023

Wynona said:
Sir, we don't insult each other in these forums. Please refrain.

Hi,
Yeah easy to ignore children
John was lurking and left it up so
I'm not here enough to care but yes indeed rude to other members is supposed to be an infraction.

ThrashZone · Dec 13, 2023

SIW2 said:
I like the ui the other ones are for kids.

Got the job done so that is all that counts thank you again for the new tool @Wynona you might check it out :thumbsup:

Wynona · Dec 13, 2023

ThrashZone said:
Got the job done so that is all that counts thank you again for the new tool @Wynona you might check it out

Glad you satisfactorily completed your task.

I checked out DiskGenius, and liked what I saw. I won't be doing what you did, but I may learn something new (I always learn when I visit ElevenForum). If there's a way to save time, I'm all for it. I think I'll install it just in case . . .

ThrashZone · Dec 26, 2023

Hi,
Well I'm batting 500 here
I mounted 23h2 on my z490 system and the installer reused the 2gb system reserved I created a while back in front of C using cmd but this is a mbr disk it only has two partitions now so the installer could of created one if it wanted to.

New acer, disk genius failed multiple times to create one the 23h2 installer would reuse
Guess it needs this stuff after all so I'll try it on the next large update, off chance i get bored and mount 23h2 again before new years.

Code:

REM After creating, shrink by 2 GB to make room for the Recovery Tools partition. You can change that size to anything.

create partition primary
shrink desired=2048
format fs=ntfs quick label="Windows"

REM Since we shrank the partition by 2 GB, create the Recovery partition without specifying a size.
REM This will cause it to occupy all remaining space (in this case 2 GB).
REM Note that for a recovery partition we have to set a specific ID and attribute.

create parttion primary
set id=de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac
GPT ATTRIBUTES=0x8000000000000001
format FS=NTFS quick label="Recovery Tools"

REM Type exit to exit from diskpart. If you are using these commands in a diskpart script,
REM leave off the exit

exit

hsehestedt · Dec 26, 2023

If you have more than one Recovery Tools partition on your Windows drive, you can force Windows to use a specific partition. Here is how:

1) Disable the recovery partition by running reagentc /disable within Windows from an elevated command prompt.

2) Assign a drive letter to the Recovery Tools partition that you want Windows to use (this is only temporary).

3) Run the command reagentc /setreimage /path R:\Recovery\WindowsRE /target C:\Windows

NOTE: Replace the R: with the drive letter that you assigned to the Recovery Tools partition.

4) Run reagentc /enable.

5) Verify that this worked by running reagentc /info

6) You can now remove the drive letter that you assigned to the Recovery Tools partition.

ThrashZone · Dec 26, 2023

Hi,
Thanks for the entries I did try and didn't go well hehe
I restored with the original at the end of 400gb +- to see if you can give further details how to complete my task

Disk genius, I said it before it made a weird hidden/ looks full reserved partition maybe that's why installer ignored it ?
But if you can get the original installer recovery into the disk genius partition that would be really

of you.
You can lecture me a little to if you want :lmao:

Scott · Dec 26, 2023

SIW2 said:
I like the ui the other ones are for kids.

There is one feature MTPW has that DG doesn't, Partition Explorer...unless I missed it.

Berton · Dec 26, 2023

Just a note, my Dell Vostro 3400 Notebook default install 256GB NVMe:

SIW2 · Dec 26, 2023

Scott said:
There is one feature MTPW has that DG doesn't, Partition Explorer...unless I missed it.

View attachment 82409

View attachment 82410

Select a partition and Click the Files tab

then all is revealed and you can do fun things with rt click context menu

Scott · Dec 26, 2023

SIW2 said:
Select a partition and Click the Files tab

SIW2 said:
then all is revealed and you can do fun things with rt click context menu

Thanks, I would have never found that Files tab.

ThrashZone · Jan 10, 2024

hsehestedt said:
If you have more than one Recovery Tools partition on your Windows drive, you can force Windows to use a specific partition. Here is how:

1) Disable the recovery partition by running reagentc /disable within Windows from an elevated command prompt.

2) Assign a drive letter to the Recovery Tools partition that you want Windows to use (this is only temporary).

3) Run the command reagentc /setreimage /path R:\Recovery\WindowsRE /target C:\Windows

NOTE: Replace the R: with the drive letter that you assigned to the Recovery Tools partition.

4) Run reagentc /enable.

5) Verify that this worked by running reagentc /info

6) You can now remove the drive letter that you assigned to the Recovery Tools partition.

Hi,
Looks like parts of both instructions worked I guess
Find out for sure if the new picky winRE update installs or errors :lmao:

Thanks for the help on this ! :crossed

Only quirk is it shows no content but does show about 16mbs with free minitool

hsehestedt · Jan 11, 2024

Wow, that's an interesting configuration that you have with the Recovery Environment as the first partition. Not optimal, but at least it is large enough that you should not have to worry about it.

cereberus · Jan 11, 2024

hsehestedt said:
Follow-up: Putting this in a separate post because I want to avoid confusion...

With a little tweaking you can configure your drive however you want. As an example, I have laptop with a single NVMe drive. I like to have a separate data partition so that when I backup the Windows partitions using disk imaging software, I end up with a smaller backup by eliminating the data partition from the backups.

So, it looks like this:

EFI partition
MSR partition
Windows partition
Recovery Tools partition
Data partition.

Take note that the recovery tools partition is still created AFTER the Windows partition, but it is NOT the last partition in this type of configuration.

The key to making this all so easy to do is to remember that anytime you create a partition without specifying a size, it will use all remaining space on the disk. You can then shrink the partition by a specific amount to make exactly that amount of space available after that partition.

This is exactly how I set up my drive 0. Like you, I only image backup 1st four partitions (3 hidden and C drive). The data partition is backed up separately.

IMO, this is the optimum layout unless you have a second data drive in which case, it is rather optional to have a data drive on drive 0.

I note the OPs layout is an mbr drive which is just asking for update troubled as Windows 11 is nominally designed for UEFI/GPT.

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