Solved IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

Scannerman · Aug 30, 2023

zbook said:
Two options to increase C: size with the unallocated space are:

1) use third party software

2) delete the recovery partition > extend the C: partition so that there is no unallocated space > in place upgrade repair to create the new recovery partition

Monitor the computer for one week.

Software that stress test hardware often display pass when there is malfunctioning hardware (false negatives).

When issues are taking more time to repair than a re installation of the OS and all the apps I use would take, I just reinstall the OS. Windows Recovery is not always reliable and System Restore frequently fails. Once I've done all the disc checking and scanning and have finished messing about with msconfig etc. and I'm still not getting results I stop wasting time. I'll just strip off all my personal data files and reinstall the entire OS. These days it's a relatively fast procedure. Once the OS is installed I can then install one app at a time and observe to see which app (if any) is causing the issue. This is a bit like trouble shooting on the fly, but sometimes you can actually save time doing it this way other than running test after test and seemingly getting nowhere. Yes, you want to keep your recovery partitions. You want a complete OS.

I stress the fact that I do this after "system restore", "system recovery", disc chk, sfc scannow, and finally, "reset your computer" options have all been exhausted. Generally speaking, if you have to spend three hours trying to fix an issue at the domestic end user level and you can't isolate the problem by then, a reset or re install are in order. It takes very little time to save personal files to an external drive (normally). Just my opinion, of course. I'm sure exceptions exist.

keredd1010 · Aug 30, 2023

Scannerman said:
When issues are taking more time to repair than a re installation of the OS and all the apps I use would take, I just reinstall the OS. Windows Recovery is not always reliable and System Restore frequently fails. Once I've done all the disc checking and scanning and have finished messing about with msconfig etc. and I'm still not getting results I stop wasting time. I'll just strip off all my personal data files and reinstall the entire OS. These days it's a relatively fast procedure. Once the OS is installed I can then install one app at a time and observe to see which app (if any) is causing the issue. This is a bit like trouble shooting on the fly, but sometimes you can actually save time doing it this way other than running test after test and seemingly getting nowhere. Yes, you want to keep your recovery partitions. You want a complete OS.

I stress the fact that I do this after "system restore", "system recovery", disc chk, sfc scannow, and finally, "reset your computer" options have all been exhausted. Generally speaking, if you have to spend three hours trying to fix an issue at the domestic end user level and you can't isolate the problem by then, a reset or re install are in order. It takes very little time to save personal files to an external drive (normally). Just my opinion, of course. I'm sure exceptions exist.

Yep, makes sense. But how long will it take to weave out the problem driver that way? You install the OS and nothing else and then what? One by one install software and then wait again what? A week? 2 weeks with each software before you decide its fine? That can be quite tedious and your PC is basically out of commission while you are doing this since you can't install anything unless it has passed the whatever week mark.

Scannerman · Aug 30, 2023

keredd1010 said:
Yep, makes sense. But how long will it take to weave out the problem driver that way? You install the OS and nothing else and then what? One by one install software and then wait again what? A week? 2 weeks with each software before you decide its fine? That can be quite tedious and your PC is basically out of commission while you are doing this since you can't install anything unless it has passed the whatever week mark.

Just test the software after you install it. Subject it to as much regular use as you deem reasonable and move on to the next app. Never mind this wait one week nonsense. This isn't realistic. Also a good thing to have on hand is a backup PC to use in the meantime. This is why it's a good thing to hang onto your older PC. I use the Justin Case procedure often. The only time I'm completely out of commission is when I have no power and my internet is gone.

zbook · Aug 30, 2023

Are you available now to troubleshoot?

The clean install method without drivers, applications, and files is a method to indirectly test hardware.

The computer with its
multiple BSOD after clean install and in place upgrade repair and different bugchecks are more often seen with malfunctioning or incompatible hardware.

keredd1010 · Aug 30, 2023

Attached are the verifier settings per your instructions set forth here:

Rebooting now. It undoubtedly will BSOD immediately and I will post the V2 after turning off verifier and restoring.

Scannerman said:
Just test the software after you install it. Subject it to as much regular use as you deem reasonable and move on to the next app. Never mind this wait one week nonsense. This isn't realistic. Also a good thing to have on hand is a backup PC to use in the meantime. This is why it's a good thing to hang onto your older PC. I use the Justin Case procedure often. The only time I'm completely out of commission is when I have no power and my internet is gone.

My older PC is currently being used as my Plex server and it doesn't have an adequate graphics card in it as I moved the GPU to my current build and swapping my GPU back over is a huge PITA since it is AIO cooled. I really should have just gotten this PC working first since the CPU has integrated graphics before moving the GPU over but I had no idea it was going to be such a headache. This is my third build and by far has given me the most trouble. Everything worked perfectly fine on my old build, I just got enticed with the new hardware.

Lesson learned.

keredd1010 · Aug 30, 2023

I ran the verifier per these settings and got an immediate BSOD as soon as I logged in. The V2 is attached:

zbook · Aug 30, 2023

These were some of the latest misbehaving drivers:

euimgprt.sys
boomvad.sys
logi_joy_vir_hid.sys
logi_joy_bus_enum.sys

If possible, detach any Logitech hardware and uninstall all Logitech drivers.

logi_joy_bus_enum Logitech G HUB Virtual Bus Enumerator Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\logi_joy_bus_enum.sys

logi_joy_vir_hid Logitech G HUB Virtual HID Device Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\logi_joy_vir_hid.sys

logi_joy_xlcore Logitech G HUB Translation Layer Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\logi_joy_xlcore.sys

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If there were no major performance problems while WDV was on then restart WDV with the same customized test settings.

Code:

    [X] (0x00000010) I/O verification
    [X] (0x00000080) DMA checking
    [X] (0x00000200) Force pending I/O requests
    [X] (0x00000400) IRP logging
    [X] (0x00002000) Invariant MDL checking for stack
    [X] (0x00004000) Invariant MDL checking for driver
    [X] (0x00008000) Power framework delay fuzzing
    [X] (0x00010000) Port/miniport interface checking
    [X] (0x00040000) Systematic low resources simulation
    [X] (0x00200000) NDIS/WIFI verification
    [X] (0x00800000) Kernel synchronization delay fuzzing
    [X] (0x01000000) VM switch verification
    [X] (0x02000000) Code integrity checks

If there is no immediate BSOD > post a new querysettings share link into the newest post

If there is at any time a BSOD > post a new V2 share link into the newest post

zbook · Aug 30, 2023

About 55 minutes passed without a reply.

I've got things to do and will sign off soon.

If you want to troubleshoot now then comment into this thread.

keredd1010 · Aug 30, 2023

I uninstalled G-HUB but when I went to configure the verifier again, sure enough the mentioned drivers are listed there. I guess those are the actual drivers for the M&K. I'm not exactly sure how I would go about uninstalling the drivers for that anyway since those are plug and play. Plus, I would be stuck without a M&K.

All my other mice are also Logitech, albeit different models, but I am sure they probably use the same driver.

I ran the verifier and got no immediate crash. I did not include the logitech drivers in the list to be verified. Here are the querysettings results:

Code:

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PS C:\Users\Derek> verifier /querysettings

Verifier Flags: 0x0395e690

  Standard Flags:

    [ ] 0x00000001 Special pool.
    [ ] 0x00000002 Force IRQL checking.
    [ ] 0x00000008 Pool tracking.
    [X] 0x00000010 I/O verification.
    [ ] 0x00000020 Deadlock detection.
    [X] 0x00000080 DMA checking.
    [ ] 0x00000100 Security checks.
    [ ] 0x00000800 Miscellaneous checks.
    [ ] 0x00020000 DDI compliance checking.

  Additional Flags:

    [ ] 0x00000004 Randomized low resources simulation.
    [X] 0x00000200 Force pending I/O requests.
    [X] 0x00000400 IRP logging.
    [X] 0x00002000 Invariant MDL checking for stack.
    [X] 0x00004000 Invariant MDL checking for driver.
    [X] 0x00008000 Power framework delay fuzzing.
    [X] 0x00010000 Port/miniport interface checking.
    [X] 0x00040000 Systematic low resources simulation.
    [ ] 0x00080000 DDI compliance checking (additional).
    [ ] 0x00200000 NDIS/WIFI verification.
    [X] 0x00800000 Kernel synchronization delay fuzzing.
    [X] 0x01000000 VM switch verification.
    [X] 0x02000000 Code integrity checks.

  Internal Flags:

    [X] 0x00100000 Extended Verifier flags (internal).

    [X] Indicates flag is enabled.

  Boot Mode:

    Persistent

  Rules:

    All rules are using default settings

  Verified Drivers:

    amdpsp.sys
    hwinfo64a_172.sys
    asio3.sys
    nvlddmkm.sys
    mtkwl6ex.sys
    e2f.sys
    amdkmdag.sys
    amdfendr.sys
    amdgpio2.sys
    amdi2c.sys
    amdgpio3.sys
    nvvad64v.sys
    nvmoduletracker.sys
    nvvhci.sys
    amdfendrmgr.sys
    nvhda64v.sys
    mtkbtfilterx.sys
    mt7612us.sys
    amdryzenmasterdriver.sys
    signalrgbdriver.sys
    dump_dumpstorport.sys
    dump_stornvme.sys
    dump_dumpfve.sys
PS C:\Users\Derek>

Do what you gotta do man. I can wait until tomorrow for the next steps.

zbook · Aug 30, 2023

Indicate whether you can or cannot respond promptly this evening.

keredd1010 · Aug 31, 2023

I can, I am here.

zbook · Aug 31, 2023

The response time was 24 min.

What response time are you willing this evening?

keredd1010 · Aug 31, 2023

I can respond a couple of more times every 15 minutes or so. I can do this until about 1:30AM EST.

zbook · Aug 31, 2023

Another time then.

Scannerman · Aug 31, 2023

keredd1010 said:
Attached are the verifier settings per your instructions set forth here:

View attachment 69428Rebooting now. It undoubtedly will BSOD immediately and I will post the V2 after turning off verifier and restoring.

My older PC is currently being used as my Plex server and it doesn't have an adequate graphics card in it as I moved the GPU to my current build and swapping my GPU back over is a huge PITA since it is AIO cooled. I really should have just gotten this PC working first since the CPU has integrated graphics before moving the GPU over but I had no idea it was going to be such a headache. This is my third build and by far has given me the most trouble. Everything worked perfectly fine on my old build, I just got enticed with the new hardware. Lesson learned.

BTW that is some mighty fine hardware you're running. I had a feeling you were using an ASUS system board so I had a peek. From my experience IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL is almost always a driver related hardware issue. You might need to roll back to one of the original drivers provided by ASUS. Just a thought. Have you tried running it without the GFX card just to see what you get? Admittedly, I haven't read the whole of the thread but it looks as though you are in good hands.

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Will you need to reinstall EaseUS again?

x BlueRobot · Aug 31, 2023

TL;DR Update/Remove boomvad.sys (if you haven't already) and then disable Driver Verifier. Afterwards, please continue to use the system as you normally would and then report any crashes if they occur.

keredd1010 said:
was I not supposed to follow those instructions? It doesn't list to choose Randomized low resources simulation anywhere in those instructions.

The official instructions is the tutorial which I provided. You aren't supposed to enable "* Low Resources Simulation" because it can cause random unrelated crashes to occur. This is has already happened in several threads in which @zbook has suggested it. Additionally, it is not generally recommended by Microsoft either unless you're testing in a specific environment, which is not applicable for most users. This has been outlined in that tutorial as well.

zbook seems to disagree with these instructions, however, despite me asking on countless occasions, has not provided any reason or explanation as to why the instructions are apparently wrong. I backed up each point in that tutorial to try and circumvent this. So, again, I ask @zbook, why are these instructions wrong? Why shouldn't we enable Driver Verifier on a select few Microsoft drivers? Please state your reasons, or better yet, write your own set of instructions so we can all provide constructive criticism and have an open dialogue about it.

keredd1010 said:
Your instructions are very confusing. You say to do two different things in the same post. Only post one set of instructions at a time to avoid confusion.

This is generally what zbook does unfortunately, they're so adamant in undermining any other advice or suggestions given by others, that they often write contradictory and confusing posts.

zbook said:
The computer with its
multiple BSOD after clean install and in place upgrade repair and different bugchecks are more often seen with malfunctioning or incompatible hardware.

Not necessarily, as pointed out earlier, enabling the Driver Verifier options you recommend will often lead to random crashes and before that, the bugchecks were very consistent with each other. Moreover, you mentioned something similar in another thread, when the actual problem was related to two problematic drivers. I mentioned this numerous times in that other thread, yet you were hell bent on suggesting that it was hardware.

zbook said:
About 55 minutes passed without a reply.

And? Why are you complaining that the user didn't respond immediately? People are free to respond as when they so wish; I find this very rude and condescending of you, but then again, this one of the reasons why no other helpers who are well-versed in BSOD analysis post in this subforum anymore.

*rant over*

@keredd1010 Please accept my apologises regarding the long rant but I've become increasingly frustrated with their improper use of Driver Verifier which often leads to the random bugchecks you've experienced.

Let's leave Nord VPN (tapnordvpn) be for now, especially since we seem to have crashed on the possible culprit of your earlier crashes. I only suggested this a possibility at the beginning of the thread based on the findings from your first two crashes.

Rich (BB code):

14: kd> lmvm boomvad
Browse full module list
start             end                 module name
fffff80a`3c450000 fffff80a`3c45e000   boomvad  T (no symbols)         
    Loaded symbol image file: boomvad.sys
    Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\boomvad.sys
    Image name: boomvad.sys
    Browse all global symbols  functions  data
    Timestamp:        Thu Mar  9 11:21:09 2023 (6409C125)
    CheckSum:         00018D5D
    ImageSize:        0000E000
    Translations:     0000.04b0 0000.04e4 0409.04b0 0409.04e4
    Information from resource tables:

If you haven't already done so, then please update or remove the above driver. I'm not completely sure what is related to but it seems that it is an audio driver. This driver was involved in the Stop 0xD1 crash which is pretty much identical to the Stop 0xA crashes you've been experiencing.

The Ease US driver was because of "Code Integrity" option in Driver Verifier (Stop 0xC4), it is often debatable wherever you actually have to enable this option, but you can remove the program or update it to the latest version if you wish.

I'm not sure where @zbook got the Logitech drivers from, other than probably running !thread; dps <Limit> <Base> and then looking for any third-party drivers. I highly doubt that they are the issue here.

Addendum: The Stop 0x74 crash was very likely due to the result of Low Resources Simulation "starving" the system of memory so it failed to load one of your registry hives.

keredd1010 · Aug 31, 2023

No apology necessary. I understand and feel your frustrations.

Back to the issue at hand, I have since removed the Boomvad which was the driver for a audio equalizer called Boom3D . I only insert the link so that it can be recalled for future reference in case someone else has an issue with it. It seems that audio drivers have been the bane of my PC builds as it is not the first time I have had issues with other audio drivers (ASUS provided ones).

NordVPN has been removed since it was first suggested many posts so and I have not put it back yet. But since the crashes persisted, I tend to think it is not the problem but I can leave it off for now. WDV has been disabled since last night because it was causing a horrendous stutter in my games and well, I wanted to play games! :winkt:

Let's see how it fairs without Boom3D. I also would like to eventually put back EaseUS back up as that tool has saved me countless times. Been using it for years without any issues.

Scannerman · Aug 31, 2023

keredd1010 said:
Back to the issue at hand, I have since removed the Boomvad which was the driver for a audio equalizer called Boom3D . I only insert the link so that it can be recalled for future reference in case someone else has an issue with it. It seems that audio drivers have been the bane of my PC builds as it is not the first time I have had issues with other audio drivers (ASUS provided ones).

Ditto. Please get back to us if you solved the issue or not. Our household uses mostly ASUS PCs on a regular basis and audio has always been the bane in this regard here, on the home front. I recall getting so fed up with ASUS audio drivers I put a Creative SoundBlaster card in the wife's Sabertooth. Come to think of it, she was getting the same BSOD you were. Mind, that's a common one so I'm not about to conclude it's your audio drivers. . . At least not yet. By all means, get back to us.

x BlueRobot · Aug 31, 2023

keredd1010 said:
NordVPN has been removed since it was first suggested many posts so and I have not put it back yet. But since the crashes persisted, I tend to think it is not the problem but I can leave it off for now.

I agree, however, the driver package and the actual VPN part of Nord VPN still seems to exist on your system which is what I was referring to earlier. However, let's see if the system remains stable for now.

keredd1010 said:
I also would like to eventually put back EaseUS back up as that tool has saved me countless times. Been using it for years without any issues.

I would do, maybe wait a few days to a week and then if no crashes have occurred, then install EaseUS again, then wait another few days and then install the application part of Nord VPN. At least this way, we can say with certainty, that the only issue was with Boom3D.

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