Insider KB5004564 Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 10.0.22000.51 - June 28


UPDATE 7/8: KB5004745 Windows 11 Insider Preview Dev Build 10.0.22000.65 - July 8



KB5004564 Cumulative Update for Windows 11

Hello Windows Insiders, we are excited to release the first Windows 11 Insider Preview build to the Dev Channel, Build 22000.51! As we finalize the product over the coming months, we will work with you to validate the experience. You will get to try many, but not all, of the new features we showed last week in this early preview. We will bring more features such as Chat with Microsoft Teams and Android apps in the Microsoft Store over the coming months as they are ready for you – we are just getting started on this journey together!

If you haven’t yet, be sure to read our blog post on how the Windows 11 hardware requirements may impact flighting on your PC and your options to get started.

We look forward to your feedback on what you love and could love more to help make Windows 11 work best for how you work, learn, and play.

Beautiful, fresh, calm visuals and sounds

From rounded corners to the centering of content and new animations, this new visual design extends across multiple areas of Windows 11. Here are some key highlights that you will see after installing this build:


Start with pinned apps and cloud-powered “Recommendations”.
  • Start: Start puts everything you need on your PC at the center with a set of pinned apps and a cloud powered “Recommended” section that shows your recently opened files from both your PC and across your devices like your smartphone with OneDrive.
  • Taskbar: Taskbar is also centered with beautiful new animations. Try pinning, launching, switching, minimizing, and rearranging your apps on Taskbar to see the beautiful new animations.
  • Notification Center & Quick Settings: The lower right corner of Taskbar has a button for Notification Center (WIN + N) and Quick Settings (WIN + A). Notification Center is the home for all your notifications in the OS and a full-month calendar view. Quick Settings is the place for you to manage common PC settings quickly and easily like Volume, Brightness, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and Focus Assist. Directly above your Quick Settings, you will see media playback controls when playing music or videos in Microsoft Edge or streaming music in apps like Spotify.
  • File Explorer: We made File Explorer modern with a clean look and brand-new command bar. We have also introduced beautifully designed context menus when right-clicking in File Explorer or on your desktop. App developers will be able to extend the new context menus. We are working to publish documentation for app developers on how to do this with their apps soon.
  • Themes: In addition to brand new default themes for Windows 11 for both dark and light mode, it also includes four additional themes so you can make Windows feel the way you want it to. All the new themes were designed to complement the centered Taskbar. We have also added new contrast themes for people with visual impairments such as light sensitivity. To change your theme, just right-click on your desktop and choose “Personalize”.
  • Sounds: The sounds in Windows 11 have been designed to be lighter and more atmospheric. They are also slightly different depending on whether your Windows theme is in dark mode or light mode. The startup sound for Windows also makes its return in which you’ll hear when your PC boots up to the Lock screen and is ready to go for you to login.
Widgets

Widgets bring you closer to information you both want and need. Just click on the widgets icon on the Taskbar, swipe from the left using touch, or hit WIN + W on your keyboard, and your widgets slide out from the left over your desktop. You can personalize your experience by adding or removing widgets, re-arranging, resizing, and customizing the content. The set of widgets we provide currently focus on your calendar, weather, local traffic, your Microsoft To Do lists, your photos from OneDrive, sports and esports, your stock watchlist, and tips.



Widgets in Windows 11.

In addition to your Widgets, you can stay up to date with an integrated feed of personalized news with the latest content from over 4,500 global brands like, The New York Times or BBC. The news feed will adapt to show stories of interest to you, and you can tune it to see more of the content you care about.

Multitasking

Increase your productivity and creativity with these new multitasking features:


Animated gif showing Snap layouts with 3 app windows.
  • Snap layouts: Just hover your mouse over a window’s maximize button to see available snap layouts, then click on a zone to snap the window. You’ll then be guided to snap windows to the rest of the zones within the layout with guided snap assist. For smaller screens, you’ll be offered a set of 4 snap layouts. You can also invoke the snap layouts flyout with the WIN + Z keyboard shortcut.
  • Snap groups: Snap groups are a way to easily switch back to your snapped windows. To try this out, snap together at least 2 app windows on your screen. Hover over one of these open apps on the Taskbar to find the snap group and click to quickly switch back.
  • Desktops: Access your Desktops via Task View (WIN + Tab) on the Taskbar. You can reorder and customize the backgrounds for each of your Desktops. You can also mouse-over Task View on the Taskbar for quick access to your existing Desktops or to create a new one!
The new Microsoft Store

With today’s build, you will be able to try out an early preview of the new Microsoft Store. We’ll continue to build and refine the Store. This build reveals a first look at the Store’s all-new design; in the coming months you’ll see us add other features detailed in last week’s blog post from Giorgio Sardo, GM for Microsoft Store.


Microsoft Store Preview on Windows 11.

Docking

When you undock your laptop, the windows on your external monitor will be minimized. When you re-dock your computer to your monitor, Windows puts everything back exactly where you had it before! You can find the settings for these features under System > Display > Multiple Displays.



Animated gif showing the docking/undocking experience in Windows 11.

Input (touch, inking and voice)
  • Touch Keyboard personalization: To personalize your Windows experience, we have designed 13 new themes for the touch keyboard including three hardware matching themes that match the Surface colors. We have also built in a brand-new theme engine that allows you to create a fully customized theme including background images. Based on your feedback we have also introduced a setting to resize the touch keyboard.
Custom theme on Windows 11’s touch keyboard.
  • Voice typing launcher: Our new voice typing launcher is a quick and easy way for you to start voice typing in a selected text field. It is off by default, but you can turn it on within the voice typing settings (WIN + H to start voice typing) and then place it anywhere you would like on your screen.
  • Improved Touch Gestures: Check out these new on-screen touch gestures for you to easily switch among apps and desktops with smooth transitions. The gestures are like the touchpad gestures but have thoughtful improvements designed specifically for touch. Here’s a list you can try:
Three-finger gestures:
  1. Swiping left/right – quickly switch to the last used app window.
  2. Swiping down – go back to the desktop (if you follow it with a swiping up, you can restore the app windows).
  3. Swiping up – open Task View to browse all app windows and desktops.
Four-finger gestures:
  1. Swiping left/right – switch to the previous/next desktop
  2. Swiping up/down – (same with three-finger ones).
  • Pen menu: If you’re using a digital pen, you can open pen menu by clicking the pen icon at the lower right on your Taskbar. (If the pen icon isn’t there, you can enable it by right-clicking on Taskbar and going to Taskbar settings to enable it. By default, it contains two apps which can be customized by clicking the gear button and selecting “edit pen menu”. In the flyout, you can add up to four of your favorite drawing or writing apps in the pen menu, to open them quickly when you’re using your pen.
  • Language/Input switcher: You can quickly switch between additional languages and keyboards via a switcher a switcher will show up at the lower right on your taskbar next to Quick Settings. You can also use the keyboard shortcut WIN + [Spacebar] to toggle between input methods. To add additional languages and keyboards, go to Settings > Time & Language > Language & Region.
Display improvements
  • Dynamic Refresh Rate: Dynamic Refresh Rate allows your PC to automatically boost the refresh rate when you’re inking or scrolling (which means you’ll get a smoother experience) and lower when you don’t need it so that your laptop can save power. You can try out DRR on your laptop via Settings > System > Display > Advanced display, and under “Choose a refresh rate” select a “Dynamic” refresh rate. DRR is being rolled out to select laptops running the latest Windows 11 Insider Preview builds and only on laptops with the right display hardware and graphics driver will have the feature available. For more details, check out this blog post.
  • Other display improvements coming in Windows 11: Auto HDR, Content adaptive brightness control (CABC) disabling, HDR support to color managed apps, and HDR certification.
Settings

We designed Settings to be beautiful, easy to use and inclusive of all your Microsoft experiences in Windows 11. Settings has left-handed navigation that persists between pages, and we have added breadcrumbs as you navigate deeper into Settings to help you know where you are and not lose your place. Settings pages are also all new, with new hero controls at the top that highlight key information and frequently used settings for you to adjust as you need. These new hero controls span across several category pages like System, Bluetooth & devices, Network & Internet, Personalization, Accounts, and Windows Update. We also have added expandable boxes for pages with a lot of settings.



The new Power & battery settings page showing battery usage patterns.

The new Windows 11 setup experience

The Windows 11 setup experience (often referred to as the “out of box experience” or OOBE for short) has been redesigned with brand new colorful animated iconography and more modern light theme. This new setup experience is designed to build excitement for Windows 11 right from the moment you first turn on a new Windows 11 PC for the very first time. Based on your feedback, we have added the ability to name your PC during the setup experience.


The beginning of the setup experience for Windows 11.

After running through the setup experience, the Get Started app is a new first run experience app that will help you quickly get setup on a new PC. Currently, Get Started has a limited number of pages but over time, we plan to add in more content to further educate and assist people new to Windows 11.


The new Get Started app will help you get started with a new PC.

For Insiders wanting to go the extra mile and try this experience out, you can reset your PC by navigating to Settings > System > Recovery > Reset this PC and choose to “Remove everything”. This will wipe your machine, so we recommend you back up your files before resetting your device.

Wi-Fi 6E Support

We’re excited to bring Wi-Fi 6E to the Windows ecosystem, enabling our Windows OEMs, Wireless IHVs and ecosystem partners to deliver leading edge Wi-Fi on new Windows PCs. Wi-Fi 6E is a revolutionary advancement that enables up to 3x more Wi-Fi bandwidth and will transform Wi-Fi experiences through faster speeds, greater capacity, reduced latency, and better security. Many OEMs are already shipping Wi-Fi 6E capable Windows PCs and the first Wi-Fi 6E capable access points and mesh devices are also commercially available.

Once you’re on this Insider Preview build with a Wi-Fi 6E capable PC and driver, along with a capable Wi-Fi router, it’ll just work.

You’ll need a PC that’s equipped with a Wi-Fi 6E device such as the Intel AX210™ and a capable driver. To obtain the latest driver from Intel, see the following guidance: How to Enable Wi-Fi 6E/ 6GHz Band Using Intel® Wi-Fi 6E AX210.

You’ll also need a Wi-Fi 6E capable router, such as one of these:
Once you’re connected to your Wi-Fi 6E router, go to Windows Settings / Network & Internet / Wi-Fi and choose Adapter properties to see if you’re connected to the 6GHz network band. You can also find the Band from the command line by entering: “netsh wlan show int”.

Note that if you use the mobile hotspot in Windows or Wi-Fi Direct, these features continue to support Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac) only.

Windows 11 + Office

Coinciding with the release of today’s Windows 11 Insider Preview build, the Office Team is releasing a preview for Office Insiders of their Office apps with a new design that will shine on Windows 11! Designed based on your feedback, the new design gives you a natural and coherent experience across all your Office apps. Learn how to be an Office Insider and try the more intuitive Office here.


The new visual design of Office on Windows 11.

Additionally, for Windows Insiders on ARM PCs – you can also try out the 64-bit version of Office for Windows on ARM. For details, see this blog post here.

Inviting you to our Inside Windows 11 website

We are bringing you behind the scenes to learn about why and how we built Windows 11. You will be able to meet our makers from Engineering, Design and Research to share their insights and unique perspectives throughout this journey. We will be posting new inside stories on a bi-weekly basis to share how we made Windows 11 happen.

Watch one of the stories we have that shows how Windows 11 was crafted to feel completely new, yet immediately familiar.


Visit Inside Windows 11.

For developers

You can download the latest Windows Insider SDK at aka.ms/windowsinsidersdk. View the top 10 things you can do to make your app great on Windows 11 including ensuring support for rounded corners in your apps.

You can also use the latest Windows Insider SDK to build apps for Windows 11 on ARM using ARM64EC.

Changes and Improvements
  • We are providing estimates for how long a restart for updates would take. When your PC is pending reboot for a quality update, you will be able to see estimates on your power menu under Start, in restart notifications, on the Windows Update Settings page and inside the Windows Update icon that shows up at the lower right of Taskbar. This feature is rolling out to a subset of Insiders in the Dev Channel at first so not everyone will see this right away.
  • Some Insiders will have the ability to right click on ‘Recommended’ on Start to refresh the content. This is rolling out to a subset of Insiders at first. If you get this experience, let us know what you think.
Important Insider Links

You can check out our Windows Insider Program documentation here, including a list of all the new features and updates released in builds so far. Are you not seeing any of the features listed for this build? Check your Windows Insider Settings to make sure you’re in the Dev Channel, and see the list of builds available in the Flight Hub. Submit feedback here to let us know if things weren’t working the way you expected.

Known issues with Build 2200.51
  • When upgrading to Windows 11 from Windows 10 or when installing an update to Windows 11, some features may be deprecated or removed. See details here.
  • Taskbar:
    • Taskbar will not be shown across multiple monitors but will return in an upcoming build.
    • The preview window may not display the entire window when hovering over Task View on the taskbar.
  • Settings:
    • When upgrading a device with multiple user accounts to Windows 11, Settings will fail to launch.
    • A small set of Settings legacy pages as well as fit and finish bugs will be addressed in future releases.
    • The ‘Power mode’ setting does not show up on the Power & battery page.
    • When launching the Settings app, a brief green flash may appear.
    • When using Quick Settings to modify Accessibility settings, the settings UI may not save the selected state.
  • Start:
    • In some cases, you might be unable to enter text when using Search from Start or the taskbar. If you experience the issue, press Win + R on the keyboard to launch the Run dialog box, then close it.
    • We’re working on fixing an issue that’s preventing unpinning apps from Start, making the command bar in File Explorer disappear, or hiding snap. To work around these, restart your PC.
  • Search:
    • App icons in the Search panel may do not load, and instead appear as gray squares.
    • When hovering your mouse over the Search icon on the taskbar, the third recent search does not load and remains blank.
    • After clicking the Search icon taskbar, the Search panel may not open. If this occurs, restart the “Windows Explorer” process, and open the search panel again.
    • When you hover your mouse over the Search icon on the taskbar, recent searches may not be displayed. To work around the issue, restart your device.
    • Search panel might appear as black and not display any content below the search box.
  • Widgets:
    • System text scaling will scale all widgets proportionally and may result in cropped widgets.
    • Launching links from the widgets board may not invoke apps to the foreground.
    • When using screen reader/Narrator in widgets may not properly announce content
    • Widgets board may appear empty. To work around the issue, you can sign out and then sign back in again.
    • When using the Outlook client with a Microsoft account, Calendar, and To Do changes may not sync to the widgets in real time.
    • Widgets may be displayed in the wrong size on external monitors. If you encounter this, you can launch the widgets via touch or WIN + W shortcut on your actual device monitor first and then launch on your secondary monitors.
    • After adding multiple widgets quickly from the widgets settings, some of the widgets may not be visible on the board.
  • Store:
    • The install button might not be functional yet in some limited scenarios.
    • Rating and reviews are not available for some apps.
We are so excited to share this and future Windows 11 Insider Previews with our Windows Insiders as we finalize the product.

We look forward to your feedback on what you love and could love more to help make Windows 11 work best for how you work, learn, and play.

Thanks,
Amanda & Brandon


Source: Announcing the first Insider Preview for Windows 11


See also: Preparing for Insider Preview Builds of Windows 11

 
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So is there an official way to do a clean install of the Win 11 preview build on an empty hard drive (can't be an update if there is no previous OS)?

Edit: MS allows me to download the ISO for build 21354, but there was no 22000 ...
 
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So is there an official way to do a clean install of the Win 11 preview build on an empty hard drive (can't be an update if there is no previous OS)?
Use UUPDump to create the ISO, Rufus or other means to get a bootable thumb or DVD, boot it and install. That's not "official" in the strictest terms, but no means would be "official" at this point.
 

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    Macrium Home Premium, Revo Pro, Screenspresso Pro
So is there an official way to do a clean install of the Win 11 preview build on an empty hard drive (can't be an update if there is no previous OS)?

Edit: MS allows me to download the ISO for build 21354, but there was no 22000 ...
I just saw your edit. Yes, that is a way also. Double work, almost. You could install the 21354, then update to 22051. It would take a while for all that, but it would be pure Vanilla MS, no 3rd party. Your choice.
 

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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 w/10GB GDDR5X mem
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Samsung 27" Curved C27F591
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe PM961 NVMe SSD SAMSUNG (Boot),
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164 (SATA),
    1TB Samsung SSD 850 EVO,
    1TB Seagate ST1000DM003-1ER162,
    1TB WD Elements 10A8 USB Device,
    1TB BUFFALO HD-PNTU3 USB Device,
    1TB x4 Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device
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    850W PSU Liquid Cooled Chassis - CyberPower 1500 UPS
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    Alienware Mid-Tower (Dell)
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    Liquid Cooled - 3 fan - Top exhaust
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    Logitech K800 Wireless
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    Logitech MX Master Wireless
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    1 Gigabit
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    FF, Chrome, Opera, Edge
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    Defender, MBAM, SuperAntiSpyware
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    Blueray R/W Optical,
    Canon MX410 series Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier,
    Altec 5.1 Speakers L-R, Mid Base Boom,

    Macrium Home Premium, Revo Pro, Screenspresso Pro
Donno if its Windows 11 thing or something else. Played some Destiny 2 for two days ago worked like a charm under Win11 but today i got 2 wierd crashed one almost directly and secound was like 5min into the game, and third time it workt well. So donno if it has something with Win 11 beta to do or not. Gonna try out few more games and see how it act
 

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    G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series 16GB 3200Mhz
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    LG 27GL83A-B 27"
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    Samsung SSD 500GB
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    Corsair RM850W
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    Phanteks Eclipse P400S
    Keyboard
    Logitech PRO X
    Mouse
    Logitech G Pro Wireless
    Browser
    Brave
Received a new Surface laptop today with W10 installed.
Managed to Update to W11 by just changing to Insider DEV which installed in just under an hour, a Microsoft account helped as all settings and passwords were all carried over......saved me having to install with an ISO.
Looking different took a bit of getting used to.
Did find configuring Fingerprint Start up located in Accounts rather strange, took some finding.....could not find CMD so used POWERSHELL Otherwise nothing appeared insurmountable including mounting APPS on Taskbar until becoming more familiarised with this system.
Much more exploring to be done.
 

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Good news, indeed!

Winuser pegged that one correctly! I had thought from reading the description Microsoft penned about various things in this Win11 build, that restricting it to the bottom was intentional! Glad to see that is not so!

Except the news that you quoted doesn't exist. The deprecation was definitely intentional since it's in the deprecated feature list.

This is the entirety of the response in the Feedback item in question:

"We'll be continuing to evolve Windows 11 and its features based on feedback like this, so thank you so much for taking the time to give us your feedback!"

We can't make it say things that it doesn't. But if we're going to play that, I would counter with this:

"Everyone who has been put out by the taskbar location restrictions in Windows 11 will be paid $1,000,000 USD. Just email billg@microsoft.com to specify your preference of PayPal, Venmo, or Microsoft Rewards. Allow 48 hours for processing."

There it is, clear as day. Very exciting!
 

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Received a new Surface laptop today with W10 installed.
Managed to Update to W11 by just changing to Insider DEV which installed in just under an hour, a Microsoft account helped as all settings and passwords were all carried over......saved me having to install with an ISO.
Looking different took a bit of getting used to.
Did find configuring Fingerprint Start up located in Accounts rather strange, took some finding.....could not find CMD so used POWERSHELL Otherwise nothing appeared insurmountable including mounting APPS on Taskbar until becoming more familiarised with this system.
Much more exploring to be done.
Tap Win Key, type cmd. Should be at top, options on right.
 

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    Multi-boot Windows 11 & 10 - RTM, RP, Beta, Dev and Canary
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    11th Gen i9-11900KF @ 3.50GHz, 8 cores/16 logical proc.
    Motherboard
    Alienware 07HV66 (U3E1)
    Memory
    32GB
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    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 w/10GB GDDR5X mem
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" Curved C27F591
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe PM961 NVMe SSD SAMSUNG (Boot),
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164 (SATA),
    1TB Samsung SSD 850 EVO,
    1TB Seagate ST1000DM003-1ER162,
    1TB WD Elements 10A8 USB Device,
    1TB BUFFALO HD-PNTU3 USB Device,
    1TB x4 Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device
    PSU
    850W PSU Liquid Cooled Chassis - CyberPower 1500 UPS
    Case
    Alienware Mid-Tower (Dell)
    Cooling
    Liquid Cooled - 3 fan - Top exhaust
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master Wireless
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    1 Gigabit
    Browser
    FF, Chrome, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender, MBAM, SuperAntiSpyware
    Other Info
    Blueray R/W Optical,
    Canon MX410 series Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier,
    Altec 5.1 Speakers L-R, Mid Base Boom,

    Macrium Home Premium, Revo Pro, Screenspresso Pro
Have you confirmed that TLB will not run in (at least the current version of) W11?

It will break my heart to have to say goodbye to TLB after two decades of enjoying its richness and flexibility.
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Use the STANDALONE version. It won't be on the taskbar anymore, but all of your set-up will be there :)
 

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    ASUS Rog Strix Z690-F Gaming
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    64GB
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    ASUS TUF RTX 4090 OC card
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    none Headphones ASUS 7.1 Surround
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    Gigabyte M32U 32 inch 4k IPS 144Hz monitor
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    3340 by 2160 144 Hz with HDR 10
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    2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME, 3X Samsung 4TB 860 EVO
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    EVGA 850 Modular
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    Corsair Graphite 780T
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    Cooler Master Hyper air
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    Corsair K95 RGB
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    Logitech G502 wired
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    990Mbps up/down Fiber to the home
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    Chrome
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    MS Defender
Tap Win Key, type cmd. Should be at top, options on right.
Thanks for tip Tomcat......tried fingerprint, that worked too....is that the equivalent of search in W10?

PS. Now that I have installed W11.... I will read the Lead Article, plus all posts.....have only had this computer a few hours so have lots of catching up to do.
 
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"Hi there
Agreed !!!!! - if the apps run efficiently - always assuming those apps are easily accessible either from desktop or command line and the apps themselves are easy enough to run without needing a University doctorate in computer science or physics to run them. !!!"

Sense some sarcasm there. :ROFLMAO:
 

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    Nvidia RTX 3090FE @ Core 2200 MHZ / Memory 21 GHZ
    Sound Card
    Creative SoundBlaster ZxR
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32GN600 (G-Sync Comp)
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    C: Primary SSD > Samsung 860 PRO 512GB
    G: Gaming SSD > Samsung 860 PRO 1TB
    S: Storage SSD > Samsung 860 EVO 4TB x2 (Windows Storage Spaces = 8TB)
    X: Ext Backup > IcyBox+WD Red 4TB x4 (Raid 10)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1600i
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 (Black)
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Logitech G613
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 LS (Hero)+PowerPlay Wireless Charge Pad
    Internet Speed
    VM 1Gb/s
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Eset
After installing Win11, I ran the Update checker, and it pulled up KB5004034, which was the .net update for Win10--I pressed the update button before noticing it was for Win10...;) 4034 installed just fine, 4564 does not appear available, so it looks like it's basically the same .net update which wouldn't surprise me. I suppose though that I'll remove 4034 and see if 4564 will come up and install.

Edit: It appears that 4564 did indeed install on top of 4034...;) Odd that 4564 does not show up under Quality Updates history, but does appear when I select "Uninstall Updates"! So I had it after all.
I just check and you are correct. It is listed under uninstall updates. It was installed on the 28th of June along with 3 other updates.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB
    Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Canary Channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec G156
    CPU
    Intel Core i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Motherboard
    AsusTeK Prime B360M-S
    Memory
    16 MB DDR 4-2666
    Monitor(s) Displays
    23" Speptre HDMI 75Hz
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 EVO 500GB NVMe
    Mouse
    Logitek M185
    Keyboard
    Logitek K270
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge and Edge Canary
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
Updated fine (had to reinstall Windows 10 from scratch - my bad not due to Windows 11).

Had an issue with closing office app that had frozen with Task Manager and the taskbar icons referring to the wrong application (reported to feedback).

Biggest gripes
- cant use Mixed Reality. Nvidia drivers not being picked up (Its using the Microsoft Basic Renderer Driver instead)
- Steam Client wont render correctly - none of the tabs work and the Friends window wont appear. But I can use Big Picture Mode fine, go figure.
Were you set to 8 bit or 10bit in NCP?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self Built
    CPU
    Intel i7-4790k @ 5GHZ
    Motherboard
    Asus Maximus VI Extreme
    Memory
    32GB Corsair Dominator Platinum 2400Mhz @ 10-12-11-27-1T
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 3090FE @ Core 2200 MHZ / Memory 21 GHZ
    Sound Card
    Creative SoundBlaster ZxR
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 32GN600 (G-Sync Comp)
    Screen Resolution
    1440p
    Hard Drives
    C: Primary SSD > Samsung 860 PRO 512GB
    G: Gaming SSD > Samsung 860 PRO 1TB
    S: Storage SSD > Samsung 860 EVO 4TB x2 (Windows Storage Spaces = 8TB)
    X: Ext Backup > IcyBox+WD Red 4TB x4 (Raid 10)
    PSU
    Corsair AX1600i
    Case
    NZXT Phantom 630 (Black)
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15S Chromax Black
    Keyboard
    Logitech G613
    Mouse
    Logitech G903 LS (Hero)+PowerPlay Wireless Charge Pad
    Internet Speed
    VM 1Gb/s
    Browser
    Edge
    Antivirus
    Eset
Secound update from gaming now on the dev build, played some Days Gone on steam for like 2h or so, worked really well aswell, have like Resident Evil village left to try and Euro truck simulator if i have time. Prob have some few more games i could try.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11 Beta
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    CPU
    Intel Core I7 9700K
    Motherboard
    Asus Rog Strix Z390-F Gaming
    Memory
    G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series 16GB 3200Mhz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Gigabyte Geforce RTX 3070 8GB GAMING OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG 27GL83A-B 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 500GB
    Samsung SSD NVME 1TB
    Crucial MX500 2TB SATA
    PSU
    Corsair RM850W
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400S
    Keyboard
    Logitech PRO X
    Mouse
    Logitech G Pro Wireless
    Browser
    Brave
going straight to build 10.0.22000.51 is probably why I didn't get the Settings crash. I have a Admin and a User Account on both of my desktops.
Like mine, no Settings crash at all and I have Local Account with admin rights.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus/Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel® Xeon® X5690 3.47GHz Six-Core
    Motherboard
    Asus P6T Deluxe v2
    Memory
    G.Skill PC3-12800 1600MHz 24GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
    Sound Card
    SoundMAX ADI AD2000B HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer T232HL Touch Screen
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    6 Crucial MX500 SSD 1TB each.
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower Gold 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Armor VA8000SWA
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Air Cooling System
    Keyboard
    Illuminated Multimedia LED Keyboard
    Mouse
    M16 Dual Mode Illuminated Mouse - Bluetooth / 2.4 GHz Mode
    Internet Speed
    800 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge / Opera / Vivaldi / Chrome / Firefox / Brave
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender Security
So far, WoW, Subnautica Zero, Valheim, and MFS all have worked without any fuss. Gaming looks good and the new use of HDR works as well as the Win 10 version. HDR in Win 11 makes white screens go from cool white to warm white, not my favorite but it works a treat in wallpapers and games so WTH.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    home built
    CPU
    i7-12700K
    Motherboard
    ASUS Rog Strix Z690-F Gaming
    Memory
    64GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF RTX 4090 OC card
    Sound Card
    none Headphones ASUS 7.1 Surround
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Gigabyte M32U 32 inch 4k IPS 144Hz monitor
    Screen Resolution
    3340 by 2160 144 Hz with HDR 10
    Hard Drives
    2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVME, 3X Samsung 4TB 860 EVO
    PSU
    EVGA 850 Modular
    Case
    Corsair Graphite 780T
    Cooling
    Cooler Master Hyper air
    Keyboard
    Corsair K95 RGB
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 wired
    Internet Speed
    990Mbps up/down Fiber to the home
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    MS Defender
Where did go the "Permanently Delete" option on this build?

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus/Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel® Xeon® X5690 3.47GHz Six-Core
    Motherboard
    Asus P6T Deluxe v2
    Memory
    G.Skill PC3-12800 1600MHz 24GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
    Sound Card
    SoundMAX ADI AD2000B HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer T232HL Touch Screen
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    6 Crucial MX500 SSD 1TB each.
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower Gold 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Armor VA8000SWA
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Air Cooling System
    Keyboard
    Illuminated Multimedia LED Keyboard
    Mouse
    M16 Dual Mode Illuminated Mouse - Bluetooth / 2.4 GHz Mode
    Internet Speed
    800 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge / Opera / Vivaldi / Chrome / Firefox / Brave
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender Security

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 10 & 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iBuyPower (special build)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x370 Pro
    Memory
    64Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon RX 480 8Gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung UHD 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung 1 TB SSD each; 1 Samsung PCIe M.2 at 2 TB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuyPower
    CPU
    AMD 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus x570 ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero WI-FI 6E ARGB
    Memory
    32 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    3D PREMIUM surround sound onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32 inch UHD curved monitor
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 pro 2 tb gen 4 NVMe ssd
    PSU
    850 watt consair RM850X
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL ONE tempered glass RGB gaming case
    Cooling
    DEEPCOOL GAMERSTORM RGB 240 mm CASTLE 240EX liquid cooler
    Mouse
    Ares m.2 gaming optical mouse
    Keyboard
    Ares m.2 gaming keyboard
    Internet Speed
    450
    Browser
    Firefox / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
    Other Info
    With all this gaming rig I am not a gamer!
Yes, really weird for sure. I deleted a bunch of files only to find they were there and asking me if I wanted to copy them…..
Most of the time I use the Permanently Delete option. I use the normal Delete only when I'm doing some testing in case I need to Restore it.
So many options being cut off in W11. Is it this making windows better?
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus/Custom Build
    CPU
    Intel® Xeon® X5690 3.47GHz Six-Core
    Motherboard
    Asus P6T Deluxe v2
    Memory
    G.Skill PC3-12800 1600MHz 24GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
    Sound Card
    SoundMAX ADI AD2000B HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer T232HL Touch Screen
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz
    Hard Drives
    6 Crucial MX500 SSD 1TB each.
    PSU
    Thermaltake Toughpower Gold 850W
    Case
    Thermaltake Armor VA8000SWA
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Air Cooling System
    Keyboard
    Illuminated Multimedia LED Keyboard
    Mouse
    M16 Dual Mode Illuminated Mouse - Bluetooth / 2.4 GHz Mode
    Internet Speed
    800 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge / Opera / Vivaldi / Chrome / Firefox / Brave
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender Security
Most of the time I use the Permanently Delete option. I use the normal Delete only when I'm doing some testing in case I need to Restore it.
So many options being cut off in W11. Is it this making windows better?
I don’t think it’s better, at least right now.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    windows 10 & 11
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    iBuyPower (special build)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7X
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime x370 Pro
    Memory
    64Gb
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon RX 480 8Gb
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung UHD 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    3 Samsung 1 TB SSD each; 1 Samsung PCIe M.2 at 2 TB
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 pro
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    IBuyPower
    CPU
    AMD 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus x570 ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero WI-FI 6E ARGB
    Memory
    32 Gb
    Graphics card(s)
    Nvidia GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    3D PREMIUM surround sound onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32 inch UHD curved monitor
    Screen Resolution
    UHD
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 pro 2 tb gen 4 NVMe ssd
    PSU
    850 watt consair RM850X
    Case
    Lian Li LANCOOL ONE tempered glass RGB gaming case
    Cooling
    DEEPCOOL GAMERSTORM RGB 240 mm CASTLE 240EX liquid cooler
    Mouse
    Ares m.2 gaming optical mouse
    Keyboard
    Ares m.2 gaming keyboard
    Internet Speed
    450
    Browser
    Firefox / Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows defender
    Other Info
    With all this gaming rig I am not a gamer!
Why would any one have taskbar on top. You guys are playing too much with Mate in Linux. I prefer Cinnamon for the bottom taskbar
I've been accustomed to a top-screen taskbar since 1986 when I used C= Amigas running the Workbench OS. At that time, x86 was still MS-DOS, only...;) And with every version of Windows since that time I've always run the taskbar on top--it's just a habit. It feels foreign and awkward on the bottom. So I'm glad that Microsoft isn't killing this flexibility in Win11.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win11 Release Preview channel
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    a cherry-picked assembly
    CPU
    AMD R7 7800X3D
    Motherboard
    x870e Aorus Master Rev 1.0, bios F4i
    Memory
    2x 16GB 6400MT/s
    Graphics Card(s)
    AMD RX-6900 XT
    Sound Card
    Creative Labs G6 USB External Sound device, Gaming DAC, Sound Card & Earphone AMP.. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED, btw. Totally changed my opinion of external USB sound. I like!...;)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Philips 43" Momentum DisplayHDR 1000-certified
    Screen Resolution
    3840x2160
    Hard Drives
    Boot: Samsung 980 Pro PCIe4 2TB NVMe| 980 Pro 500GB NVMe| ST4000DM004 S3 4TB| 8 TB Toshiba X300 S3
    PSU
    Gigabyte 850W Gold, Rev 2
    Case
    Lian Li 216 Lancool
    Cooling
    Air coutesy Lian Li
    Keyboard
    Non-mechanical (mechanicals are too small for my hands)
    Mouse
    Razer Basilisk V2 20k DPI
    Internet Speed
    ~850Mbps down and up!
    Browser
    Firefox x64 DE
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    Great New system. Exceeds my expectations by quite a bit, btw.
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