Insider KB5052080 Windows 11 Insider Beta and Dev build 26120.3291 (24H2) - Feb. 21

stzan · 2025-03-02T03:25:21-0500

Almighty1 said:
I actually missed one comment, and it seemed like there was only 1 ID needed and not 2 or 3 since atleast @stzan got it working with just 1:

KB5052080 Windows 11 Insider Beta and Dev build 26120.3291 (24H2) - Feb. 21

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but ofcourse in this post in .3281, @stzan also said the other id's don't work:

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@fg2001gf11F - Did you ever lose the icons? Maybe there is a difference between losing it and losing it by doing a in-place repair install? The later may have wiped out whatever MS added before similar to what I thought about the .NET 3.5.

You actually need 3 ids to activate the new battery icon.
At first I said the 2 known ids were not working and then you needed the new additional id. Sorry for the confusion I made.

Almighty1 · 2025-03-02T04:20:39-0500

fg2001gf11F said:
@Almighty,
Which build are you currently running? The whole thing was disabled with 26120.3291 and 26100.3323.
The priority only matters if there are multiple settings for the same Feature ID, then the highest priority will take precedence. I don't know exactly what each number from 0 to 14 mean, the Syntax is shown in vivetool
They have priorities from 0 to 15, and some cannot be changed by the users of vivetool. I know 15 cannot be modified.
As for your specific case, 48822452 should be the only one that needs to be enabled to get the battery icons back.

View attachment 127038

On my 26120.3360 that feature id was enabled in the ImageDefault. So, a /reset just puts it back to what it was in the ImageDefault.
View attachment 127039

When I wrote the comment, I was already on 26120.3360 Beta. I actually had the battery with % icon with the Windows Updated 26120.3281 and 26120.3291 but the UUPDump ISO 26120.3291 disabled the battery with % icon. For the Priority and the Type, I did not mean the numbers but the word itself such as safeguard, service, dynic, user, userpolicy, test as the numbers is always 0 disabled and 1 enabled for the basics, not sure about numbers after that. LOL.

I never knew you can have multiple settings for the same feature ID.

Let me see what mines says now as the battery and % did come back with that one ID enabled to add to the existing.

Code:

vivetool /query /id:54237969,48433719,48822452
ViVeTool v0.3.3 - Windows feature configuration tool

[54237969]
Priority        : Service (4)
State           : Enabled (2)
Type            : Experiment (1)

[48433719]
Priority        : Service (4)
State           : Enabled (2)
Type            : Experiment (1)

[48822452]
Priority        : User (8)
State           : Enabled (2)
Type            : Override (0)

Compared to your Dev 26120.3360:

for the last 48822452, my Priority is User(8) while yours is ImageDefault (0), what's the difference between User and ImageDefault?

As for Hyper-V, when I was still on 26120.3291 Beta and saw the new Canary build came out, I started Hyper-V Manager but before that happened, it showed something briefly for like 5 seconds and my Hyper-V Manager looks different as that box on the buttom of Automatic Checkpoint used to be on the right hand side.

Even the Checkpoint section had a upgrade version button next to it which is not there now after I upgraded.

and as you can see, my Hyper-V Canary does have the battery % icon:

I do have a question for you, on the machines you have with the battery % icons, are those desktops or laptops because I thought only laptops was supposed to show a battery? My physical machine is a notebook and does have a battery.

stzan · 2025-03-02T04:56:53-0500

Almighty1 said:
for the last 48822452, my Priority is User(8) while yours is ImageDefault (0), what's the difference between User and ImageDefault?

The ImageDefault (0) is what option Microsoft is rolling out. The option can be eather enabled or disabled and can be different on each pc. It can be enabled on your pc and disabled on mine. User(8) is when you enforce the option with vivetool. For battery icon which has 3 ids you need to enforce 1 or more options with vivetool.

Crow · 2025-03-02T11:42:41-0500

IS anyone having issues with Call of Duty BO6 after installing kb5052080 ? i install it the game won't load . no errors, nothing. have updated/rolled back drivers, and DirectX and and and. Only way to get the game to work is to uninstall the kb5052080.

fg2001gf11F · 2025-03-02T13:04:44-0500

Almighty1 said:
When I wrote the comment, I was already on 26120.3360 Beta. I actually had the battery with % icon with the Windows Updated 26120.3281 and 26120.3291 but the UUPDump ISO 26120.3291 diabled the battery with % icon. For the Priority and the Type, I did not mean the numbers but the word itself such as safeguard, service, dynic, user, userpolicy, test as the numbers is always 0 disabled and 1 enabled for the basics, not sure about numbers after that. LOL.

I never knew you can have multiple settings for the same feature ID.

for the last 48822452, my Priority is User(8) while yours is ImageDefault (0), what's the difference between User and ImageDefault?

As for Hyper-V, when I was still on 26120.3291 Beta and saw the new Canary build came out, I started Hyper-V Manager but before that happened, it showed something briefly for like 5 seconds and my Hyper-V Manager looks different as that box on the buttom of Automatic Checkpoint used to be on the right hand side.

Even the Checkpoint section had a upgrade version button next to it which is not there now after I upgraded.

and as you can see, my Hyper-V Canary does have the battery % icon:

I do have a question for you, on the machines you have with the battery % icons, are those desktops or laptops because I thought only laptops was supposed to show a battery? My physical machine is a notebook and does have a battery.

@Almighty1,
1) The difference in Priority 0 versus 8.
Mine was installed by MS with the last update, they had that ID already enabled in the image that was downloaded.
Yours was enabled by the user with vivetool.

2) If you issue vivetool /query it will list all the ids and you can see if any id has setting with different priorities.
Here is a sample set with 2 priorities, the enable State could be different in the 2 settings.

3) I have no idea about the checkpoint difference. And I don't use HyperV.

4) In Hyperv, please display device manger to see if it shows the batteries device, I guess they can use the one of the Host.

5) Desktops can have batteries if they are connected to a UPS which communicates with the PC via a USB connection.

B.T.W.
You can also use the /Priority: option with the priority of your choices when you enable the feature, just enter it after the ":".
For example /priority:test

These 3 cannot be overwritten.

Here is one has the highest priority, and it is disabled. There is nothing a regular user can do to enable or modify this.

Almighty1 · 2025-03-02T16:43:43-0500

fg2001gf11F said:
@Almighty1,
1) The difference in Priority 0 versus 8.
Mine was installed by MS with the last update, they had that ID already enabled in the image that was downloaded.
Yours was enabled by the user with vivetool.

2) If you issue vivetool /query it will list all the ids and you can see if any id has setting with different priorities.
Here is a sample set with 2 priorities, the enable State could be different in the 2 settings.
View attachment 127148

3) I have no idea about the checkpoint difference. And I don't use HyperV.

4) In Hyperv, please display device manger to see if it shows the batteries device, I guess they can use the one of the Host.
View attachment 127130

5) Desktops can have batteries if they are connected to a UPS which communicates with the PC via a USB connection.

B.T.W.
You can also use the /Priority: option with the priority of your choices when you enable the feature, just enter it after the ":".
For example /priority:test

These 3 cannot be overwritten.
View attachment 127151

Here is one has the highest priority, and it is disabled. There is nothing a regular user can do to enable or modify this.
View attachment 127163

1) What I meant to ask is, for the words before the (), is the number and word always going to be a matching set. Basically ImageOverride is another way to say Priority 15?

2) How do you actually add/remove the additional priorities or can only MSFT do that?

3) Nevermind about that one, when I compared it, it looks the same as what others have online but I know before the Hyper-V Manager showed up. It was doing some sort of database update or something for 5 seconds or less and the Hyper-V Manager screen went back into a smaller window that did not display everything so maybe it's 26120.3291 had a Hyper-V update and that was the first time I ran Hyper-V after it's been out as I usually don't run Hyper-V unless there is a Canary build update and sometimes for PowerToys updates. I usually update the Canary first before doing the host Beta build update which is why it's 26120.3291 and not 26120.3360 as my system slows down until reboot after running Hyper-V. So let's just say Hyper-V was updated since even I can't show what the screen said before as it was brief and there is no way to reproduce it but starting up THE VM as in Canary is way faster now to the Windows login screen. It used to take 5+ minutes, now it does it in seconds. The upgrade version thing is basically option 2 mentioned in this article:

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4)

which is identical to the host running 26120.3360 Beta:

5) Never thought about that one as never had a UPS and never dealt with systems in the last 42 years that had one either, atleast paying attention there were UPSes.

I figured the priroties can be changed but that should only be needed if there were multiple profiles for that feature.

fg2001gf11F · 2025-03-02T17:10:08-0500

Almighty1 said:
1) What I meant to ask is, for the words before the (), is the number and word always going to be a matching set. Basically ImageOverride is another way to say Priority 15?

2) How do you actually add/remove the additional priorities or can only MSFT do that?

3) Nevermind about that one, when I compared it, it looks the same as what others have online but I know before the Hyper-V Manager showed up. It was doing some sort of database update or something for 5 seconds or less and the Hyper-V Manager screen went back into a smaller window that did not display everything so maybe it's 26120.3291 had a Hyper-V update and that was the first time I ran Hyper-V after it's been out as I usually don't run Hyper-V unless there is a Canary build update and sometimes for PowerToys updates. I usually update the Canary first before doing the host Beta build update which is why it's 26120.3291 and not 26120.3360 as my system slows down until reboot after running Hyper-V. So let's just say Hyper-V was updated since even I can't show what the screen said before as it was brief and there is no way to reproduce it but starting up THE VM as in Canary is way faster now to the Windows login screen. It used to take 5+ minutes, now it does it in seconds.

4)

5) Never thought about that one as never had a UPS and never dealt with systems in the last 42 years that had one either, atleast paying attention there were UPSes.

I figured the priorities can be changed but that should only be needed if there were multiple profiles for that feature.

@Almighty1 ,
1) Yes, I think the number in the priority matches the wording.

2) You can add a higher priority, for the ones that are allowed, I showed earlier the 3 that cannot be written to.

4) Looks like HyperV is allowed to deal with the same batteries controlled by the Host.

I don't use virtual machines simply because they require an extra license.

I have plenty of real machines for testing.

5) I have UPS with batteries on my desktops. Also have 2 laptops that clearly have batteries on their own.

You can change only the priorities that are allowed to be changed by a user.
But you can always add a higher priority if you want precedence, except for 15 which is the highest and cannot be overwritten by the user.

Almighty1 · 2025-03-02T17:29:02-0500

fg2001gf11F said:
@Almighty1 ,
1) Yes, I think the number in the priority matches the wording.

2) You can add a higher priority, for the ones that are allowed, I showed earlier the 3 that cannot be written to.
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4) Looks like HyperV is allowed to deal with the same batteries controlled by the Host.
I don't use virtual machines simply because they require an extra license.
I have plenty of real machines for testing.

5) I have UPS with batteries on my desktops. Also have 2 laptops that clearly have batteries on their own.

You can change only the priorities that are allowed to be changed by a user.
But you can always add a higher priority if you want precedence, except for 15 which is the highest and cannot be overwritten by the user.

2) I know you can change the priority but I mean if there is only one priority, can you add it so there are now two priorities listed and if there were two, can you actually delete it so only one exists? In a way, I am confused why two priorities would exist in the first place because for a feature, wouldn't it only care if it was enabled or disabled since how does it determine which priority would be used since whether you have 1 or 10, the one with the highest will always be used anyways? Unless the profiles is meant because the MSFT assigned profiles cannot be changed and then you wanted your own setting to be used instead of MSFT's.

4) I don't have machines because I still have my stuff packed in boxes and will be doing a whole teardown of the house and rebuilding it so any new machines will be collecting dust for the 1.5-2 years I won't be here. I mean I have a couple of Microsoft Surface Pro x64 machines from probably 2016 or 2017 that is still in the sealed packaging that ships with Windows 10. Not sure if I can even upgrade it to Windows 11 but those are still considered notebooks and not really real machines. My real machine besides the Dell XPS 15 9570 on Windows 24H2 Beta still runs Windows XP 32bit SP3 which is only used for WinFax Pro to send faxes.

5) I didn't get a UPS because I am trying to look for something with decent runtimes if there was a power outage and it's hard to figure out what the VA is needed as CyberPower for example seems to have high VA output compared to the APC but hard to say if they really have longer runtimes and I don't like paying for batteries every 5 years as that can get expensive in the long run. That's why I have notebooks should there be a power outage. LOL.

fg2001gf11F · 2025-03-02T17:37:47-0500

Almighty1 said:
2) I know you can change the priority but I mean if there is only one priority, can you add it so there are now two priorities listed and if there were two, can you actually delete it so only one exists? In a way, I am confused why two priorities would exist in the first place because for a feature, wouldn't it only care if it was enabled or disabled since how does it determine which priority would be used since whether you have 1 or 10, the one with the highest will always be used anyways? Unless the profiles is meant because the MSFT assigned profiles cannot be changed and then you wanted your own setting to be used instead of MSFT's.

4) I don't have machines because I still have my stuff packed in boxes and will be doing a whole teardown of the house and rebuilding it so any new machines will be collecting dust for the 1.5-2 years I won't be here. I mean I have a couple of Microsoft Surface Pro x64 machines from probably 2016 or 2017 that is still in the sealed packaging that ships with Windows 10. Not sure if I can even upgrade it to Windows 11 but those are still considered notebooks and not really real machines. My real machine besides the Dell XPS 15 9570 on Windows 24H2 Beta still runs Windows XP 32bit SP3 which is only used for WinFax Pro to send faxes.

5) I didn't get a UPS because I am trying to look for something with decent runtimes if there was a power outage and it's hard to figure out what the VA is needed as CyberPower for example seems to have high VA output compared to the APC but hard to say if they really have longer runtimes and I don't like paying for batteries every 5 years as that can get expensive in the long run. That's why I have notebooks should there be a power outage. LOL.

2) You can add a priority, and it will show the one that already existed plus the one added. If you use vivetool /query (to see the whole list).
I showed an example earlier.

Almighty1 · 2025-03-02T17:45:03-0500

fg2001gf11F said:
2) You can add a priority, and it will show the one that already existed plus the one added. If you use vivetool /query (to see the whole list).
I showed an example earlier.

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I think what I am confused about is why would someone want to add a priority instead of just replacing the existing single priority setting or is it more to keep the existing priority there just for reference? I mean even in your screenshot, they are both enabled so the end result would be the same regardless which priority it uses since both of them basically would be enabled for that feature id. I know multiple priorities exist in your example but they have the same result of the state being enabled. as the type(0) is the same.

fg2001gf11F · 2025-03-02T17:54:17-0500

Almighty1 said:
I think what I am confused about is why would someone want to add a priority instead of just replacing the existing single priority setting or is it more to keep the existing priority there just for reference? I mean even in your screenshot, they are both enabled so the end result would be the same regardless which priority it uses since both of them basically would be enabled for that feature id. I know multiple priorities exist in your example but they have the same result of the state being enabled. as the type(0) is the same.

You can replace the ones that are allowed to be changed, or add one with a higher priority, your choice.

0 cannot be changed by the user as I already showed earlier, so you will have to add one if you want to modify the state.
Here is another example showing 3 different ones.
Keep in mind that the priority Service can be modified during a windows update or when MS decides to change it,
using a higher priority like User or Test may prevent that.

I also use the option /store:both to make sure it is saved in both stores.

If you are happy with the existing setting in ImageDefault you can just issue vivetool /reset /id:48822452 and it will clear the extra ones and leave only the ImageDefault if it was already there.

Almighty1 · 2025-03-02T18:05:18-0500

fg2001gf11F said:
You can replace the ones that are allowed to be changed, or add one with a higher priority, your choice.
0 cannot be changed by the user as I already showed earlier, so you will have to add one if you want to modify the state.
Here is another example showing 3 different ones.
Keep in mind that the priority Service can be modified during a windows update or when MS decides to change it,
using a higher priority like User or Test may prevent that.
I also use the option /store:both to make sure it is saved in both stores.

View attachment 127188

If you are happy with the existing setting in ImageDefault you can just issue vivetool /reset /id:48822452 and it will clear the extra ones and leave only the ImageDefault if it was already there.

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I know what you mean, but I mean it seems to be more of something to look at since unless the one assigned by default can't be changed, then you would add one but if it can be, then you can change it to the enable or disable state and as far as the system is concerned, it will always use the one with the highest priority and ignore the rest so you can list 1 or an ∞ amount of priorities, it will still use whatever has the highest priority and ignore the rest. So basically it seems like it doesn't matter for the 3 priorities one can't change, it's only bad if there is 15 assuming 15 is the highest priority since you can't change that enable to disable or disable to enable. 0 and 9 is not a problem since basically 1-8, 10-14 will already be higher than 0 and for 9, 10-14 would do the same thing. It's only 15 that one has to be worried about and for all we know, maybe there is a way to do it in the registry like setting it to 99 or something. LOL

fg2001gf11F · 2025-03-02T18:34:07-0500

Almighty1 said:
I know what you mean, but I mean it seems to be more of something to look at since unless the one assigned by default can't be changed, then you would add one but if it can be, then you can change it to the enable or disable state and as far as the system is concerned, it will always use the one with the highest priority and ignore the rest so you can list 1 or an ∞ amount of priorities, it will still use whatever has the highest priority and ignore the rest. So basically it seems like it doesn't matter for the 3 priorities one can't change, it's only bad if there is 15 assuming 15 is the highest priority since you can't change that enable to disable or disable to enable. 0 and 9 is not a problem since basically 1-8, 10-14 will already be higher than 0 and for 9, 10-14 would do the same thing. It's only 15 that one has to be worried about and for all we know, maybe there is a way to do it in the registry like setting it to 99 or something. LOL

As I said, it is up to you how you want to handle it.

Most users just omit the priority parameter, and it will be set automatically to User which is already higher than Service.
That should be enough to prevent MS from changing it to a different state during their experiments.
The highest priority that can be set with vivetool is Test(14).
Enough on this subject! It should have a separate thread.

As for UPS I have 3 different APC models, one is 1600VA, one is 750VA, and the last one 500VA.
The electric power company here is not very stable here and had to use UPS for better safety.

The bigger one actually failed, and I had it replaced under warranty.

Almighty1 · 2025-03-02T18:37:24-0500

fg2001gf11F said:
As I said, it is up to you how you want to handle it.
Most users just omit the priority parameter, and it will be set automatically to User which is already higher than Service.
That should be enough to prevent MS from changing it to a different state during their experiments.
The highest priority that can be set with vivetool is Test(14).
Enough on this subject! It should have a separate thread.

LOL, it seems like unless MS put in a 15, you will always be able to set it to the opposite so technically, there can be up to 15 priorities set for a feature id except only 12 are really user definable.
Sorry, just didn't understand how it worked and we were on the Vivetool subject and I guess you were the one who brought up the multiple priroties for a feature. I guess only MS will know.
I know 14 is the highest in Vivetool but I meant someone could figure out a way to directly modify the database wherever it may be.

fg2001gf11F · 2025-03-02T18:45:28-0500

Almighty1 said:
LOL, it seems like unless MS put in a 15, you will always be able to set it to the opposite so technically, there can be up to 15 priorities set for a feature id except only 12 are really user definable.
Sorry, just didn't understand how it worked and we were on the Vivetool subject and I guess you were the one who brought up the multiple priroties for a feature. I guess only MS will know.
I know 14 is the highest in Vivetool but I meant someone could figure out a way to directly modify the database wherever it may be.

There are many IDs with priority 15, looks like MS sets them at 15 when they want to make sure they are not changed by the users.

Almighty1 · 2025-03-02T19:19:04-0500

Eggsactly what I meant, basically saying as long as they do not set the specific feature id to 15, you can change the setting to the opposite from enable to disable or disable to enable. Otherwise you don't have a choice.

fg2001gf11F · 2025-03-02T19:47:14-0500

Almighty1 said:
Eggsactly what I meant, basically saying as long as they do not set the specific feature id to 15, you can change the setting to the opposite from enable to disable or disable to enable. Otherwise you don't have a choice.

Well, except for 15, if I add one in higher priority than the ones set by MS, it should be left alone when they do their experiments.
It all depends on what we want to achieve.

I tried several times changing the ones they set with priority:service, just to find the state changed back after a reboot or after checking for updates.
In the same situations, if I use priority:test, the state is not reverted back.

Almighty1 · 2025-03-02T19:56:28-0500

Interesting.. I'll have to spend some time on reading on ViveTools when I have time. My 24H2 is lagging like crazy ever since 3073 that it's skipping characters even in my posts. Once in while, it will be fast and working like the last 10 seconds. When it's lagging, it's like it's some interrupt conflict or something. 23H2 never had these problems.

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