New Build - CPU temperature shoots up to 93c


bobkn said:
I just run the pump at "extreme" (full speed). Not the fans. The fans are much too noisy at full speed on my Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX. (Which is why I replaced them with quieter ones.)
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Yeah, I don't run the pump there either. Ironically my first AIO went bad on me because the pump failed. I actually did run it on Extreme, and probably why it burned out (also why I stayed away from iCUE for a while). Anway my AIO's after, and with iCUE, are now always Balanced or Quiet.

I'm running the stock Corsair fans with the AIO, also have a rear case fan. I promise if you were sitting next to my PC at this moment, you wouldn't hear any fans. And this is with Corsair's iCUE Balanced setting; front case fans run half its RPMs. The fans ramp when I game but they don't max.

bobkn said:
I don't overclock, but I found that the I9-13900K tended to come close to thermal throttling under heavy, continuous load. I didn't like that.
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I also don't overclock; I run as few fans as possible, and as low as possible. I need a quiet system since it's part of my desktop audio setup.
 

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    Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme
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    32gig (4 x 8) Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3600Mhz (B-Die)
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    Radeon XFX Merc 7900XT (20gig)
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I'm not an extreme over clocker but I do overclock occasionally. Even if you don't overclock if you're experiencing thermal issues or crashing with this generation of i9 CPU this video may be of some help.

 

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    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
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    Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
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    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
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    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
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    RAID arrays included:

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    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
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I’ve sent it back to scan, as they said it looks as if the cooler is faulty, will keep thread updated.
 

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    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit (24H2)
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    AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D
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    ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Hero
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    Corsair Vengeance 96GB @ 5600 MHz
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    MSI MAG 275CQRXF 27" WQHD Curved Gaming
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    Corsair RM1200X Shift 80+ Gold
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    Corsair Link 5000T LX Black Mid-Tower
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Mister.T said:
I’ve sent it back to scan, as they said it looks as if the cooler is faulty, will keep thread updated.
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Certainly, my suspicion. Good luck.
 

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    Intel Core 9 Ultra 285K
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    Gigabyte Aorus Z890 Xtreme AI Top
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    64G (4x16) DDR5 Corsair RGB Dominator Platinum (6400Mhz)
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    Radeon (XFX Mercury) RX 9070XT OC (with Magnetic Fans)
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    Onboard (ESS Sabre HiFi using Realtek drivers)
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    27-inch Eizo Color Edge - CG2700X
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    3840 x 2160
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    4 Samsung NVM 990 Pro drives: 1TB (OS), 2TB, 2 X 4TB.
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    Seasonic TX-1300 (1300 Watts)
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    Cooler Master H500M
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    Corsair Link Titan 280 RX RGB
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    Logitech Craft
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    Intel Core i9-9900K
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    Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Xtreme
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    32gig (4 x 8) Corsair Dominator Platinum DDR4 3600Mhz (B-Die)
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    Radeon XFX Merc 7900XT (20gig)
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    bequiet pure power 11 400CM
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    pentium g5400
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    gigabyte b365m ds3h
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    1x8gb 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450
An update, the PC got lost by the carrier. Scan sent me a new one (different specs), so I had to pay a bit extra (new specs in My Computer), will do a stress test a bit later and post here.
 

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    AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D
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    ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Hero
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    Corsair Vengeance 96GB @ 5600 MHz
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    Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ Vapor-X 24GB
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    MSI MAG 275CQRXF 27" WQHD Curved Gaming
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    2560 x 1440
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    Corsair RM1200X Shift 80+ Gold
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    Corsair Link 5000T LX Black Mid-Tower
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    Corsair Link Titan 360 RX
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1. mounted wrong - check for no wobble in aio unit attached to cpu.
2 . add thermalright anti bend plate to cpu.
3. amt of paste - thin bead down center is enough.
4. boot to bios and check pump rpm and cpu fan speed.
5. check that aio pump and fans connected to correct hubs on mobo.
6. return aio and get a different one.
edit 7. for 13th,14th gen assure latest BIOS for latest 12b microcode.
 

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    win 11Pro 24H2 current, Mint Cinnamon 22.1, Mint Xfce 22.1
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    I9-13900k
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    ASUS ROG STRIX Z790-E Gaming wifi-6E, latest AMI BIOS 3001
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    G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32GB Kit DDR5 6000. 6000.
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    GeForce RTX™ 3060 Ti VISION OC 8G (rev. 2.0)
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    "Realtek USB Audio", ROG SupremeFX 7.1 Surround Sound High Definition Audio CODEC ALC4080, Bose Computer Music Monitor/ Desktop Computer Speakers
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    Dell S3221QS
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    4K but I usually display at 1K
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    Sam 980 Pro 1T M.2, 990Pro, WD 570, others(all NVMe)
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    Corsair RM750e fully modular
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    CoolerMaster TD500 mesh white case
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    i7-10510U 1.8-4.9GHz
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    Intel SoC
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    16GB DDR4
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    Nvidia Quadro P520 2GB DDR5 supports 4K external via HDMI or USB-C
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC3287 HD
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    15.6"
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    1K
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    NVMe various
Did a stress test, seems much better with the new build.
 

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    Custom Built (Self)
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Crosshair X870E Hero
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance 96GB @ 5600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Sapphire Radeon RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ Vapor-X 24GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    MSI MAG 275CQRXF 27" WQHD Curved Gaming
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1440
    Hard Drives
    Corsair MP700 Pro 2TB M.2 NVMe SSD / Corsair MP700 Pro 4TB M.2 NVMe SSD (OS / DATA) / Synology DS720+ NAS 16TB (BACKUP 1) / Seagate One Touch HUB 12TB (BACKUP 2)
    PSU
    Corsair RM1200X Shift 80+ Gold
    Case
    Corsair Link 5000T LX Black Mid-Tower
    Cooling
    Corsair Link Titan 360 RX
    Keyboard
    Corsair K100 Air Wireless RGB Ultra-Thin Mechanical Gaming
    Mouse
    Corsair Darkstar RGB Wireless MMO Gaming
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    Edge 64-bit / Firefox 64-bit / Octo 64-bit
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    Sophos Endpoint (Intercept X) Protection / Bitdefender Total Security 2025
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    Headset: Razer Kraken V4 Pro
    Controller: Razer Wolverine V3 Pro
    Webcam: Razer Kiyo Pro
    Speakers: Razer Leviathan V2 Gaming
i play heavy vr with i-7 13900k and it never gets hot... 150F/160F for the cpu or in 3DMark tests... so, if you are getting anything near 200F something is wrong. IMHO
 

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  • OS
    Win11
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    Asus Home built
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    i9-13900
    Motherboard
    ASUS Strix Z790-H
    Memory
    64 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Nvidia RTX 5070 TI OC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony 55"
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    PSU
    850 watt EVGA
    Case
    Cooler Master Haf 932
    Cooling
    CoolerMaster
    Keyboard
    RedDragon
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    CoolerMaster
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    300/300
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    Defender
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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.4061, Experience Pack 1000.26100.84.0
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    Home Brew
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    Intel Core i5 14500
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M G P WIFI
    Memory
    64GB DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060
    Sound Card
    Chipset Realtek
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    LG 45" Ultragear, Acer 24" 1080p
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    5120x1440, 1920x1080
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    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 3D NAND NVMe M.2 SSD (O/S)
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    Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 750W
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    LIAN LI LANCOOL 216 E-ATX PC Case
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    Lots of fans!
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    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
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    Logitech G305
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    Verizon FiOS 1GB
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    Firefox
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    Malware Bytes & Windows Security
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    Windows 11 Pro 24H2, Build 26100.4061, Experience Pack 1000.26100.84.0
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Home Brew
    CPU
    Intel Core i5 14400
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte B760M DS3H AX
    Memory
    32GB DDR5
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel 700 Embedded GPU
    Sound Card
    Realtek Embedded
    Monitor(s) Displays
    27" HP 1080p
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Crucial P310 2TB 2280 PCIe Gen4 eD NAND PCIe SSD
    Samsung EVO 990 2TB NVMe Gen4 SSD
    Samsung 2TB SATA SSD
    PSU
    Thermaltake Smart BM3 650W
    Case
    Okinos Micro ATX Case
    Cooling
    Fans
    Mouse
    Logitech G305
    Keyboard
    Microsoft Comfort Curve 2000
    Internet Speed
    Verizon FiOS 1GB
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    Malware Bytes & Windows Security

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    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Scannerman said:
Yes. This is part of the reason I'm sticking with the older architecture.
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I don't follow the logic here. A simple BIOS upgrade in most cases will solve the problem. Probably most newer motherboards already have the patch installed. I am getting great performance with my 13700KF and no heating or instability issues.

Why deny yourself better performance if it is a simple fix? Compared to 11th and 12 generation CPUs, the 13th and 14th are better and more powerful. I was considering the 12th gen when I bought my new rig due to cost, then I said screw it and went with the 13700KF. I was advised by my dealer about the BIOS patch and it was available. Easy peasy.
 

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  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Intel i7 13700KF
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z790 UD AC
    Memory
    32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER 34 inch
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
Catnip said:
I don't follow the logic here. A simple BIOS upgrade in most cases will solve the problem. Probably most newer motherboards already have the patch installed. I am getting great performance with my 13700KF and no heating or instability issues.

Why deny yourself better performance if it is a simple fix? Compared to 11th and 12 generation CPUs, the 13th and 14th are better and more powerful. I was considering the 12th gen when I bought my new rig due to cost, then I said screw it and went with the 13700KF. I was advised by my dealer about the BIOS patch and it was available. Easy peasy.
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Well, as I stated, it is only part of the reason. There are other factors for me to take into consideration. That said when brand new system boards start catching fire after release that's when I have to ask myself if it is worth the risk. If quality control missed this what else did they miss? For an old guy like me 3666 MHz RAM is plenty fast. If I can clock my CPU over 4GHz I'm happy with that too. One thing about older architecture is that it has been tried and tested. If it can pass the test of time then it is likely worth keeping.

The main reason for the big push on the newer "Windows 11 Ready" architecture wasn't TPM2 so much as getting PCs AI ready. Not everyone wants their PC to be completely AI compliant. Admittedly, I am from another time. My focus is on older architecture. I draw the line on 20 years. I've rebuilt 12 year old PCs and given them to children (and seniors) in my community and they're still happy with them. Yes, speed is nice to have but it isn't everything.
 

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  • OS
    WIN 11, WIN 10, WIN 8.1, WIN 7 U, WIN 7 PRO, WIN 7 HOME (32 Bit), LINUX MINT
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    DIY, ASUS, and DELL
    CPU
    Intel i7 6900K and i9-7960X / AMD 3800X (8 core)
    Motherboard
    ASUS X99E-WS USB 3.1 and ASUS X299 SAGE
    Memory
    128 GB CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM (B DIE)
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA 1070 and RTX 3070
    Sound Card
    Crystal Sound (onboard)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    single Samsung 30" 4K and 8" aux monitor
    Screen Resolution
    4K and something equally attrocious. I'll be working on this.
    Hard Drives
    A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, W

    Ports X, Y, and Z are reserved for USB access and removable drives.

    Drive types consist of the following: Various mechanical hard drives bearing the brand names, Seagate, Toshiba, and Western Digital. Various NVMe drives bearing the brand names Kingston, Intel, Silicon Power, Crucial, Western Digital, and Team Group. Various SATA SSDs bearing various different brand names.

    RAID arrays included:

    LSI RAID 10 (WD Velociraptors) 1115.72 GB
    LSI RAID 10 (WD SSDS) 463.80 GB

    INTEL RAID 0 (KINGSTON HYPER X) System 447.14 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 TOSHIBA ENTERPRIZE class Data 2794.52 GB
    INTEL RAID 1 SEAGATE HYBRID 931.51 GB
    PSU
    SEVERAL. I prefer my Corsair Platinum HX1000i but I also like EVGA power supplies
    Case
    ThermalTake Level 10 GT (among others)
    Cooling
    Noctua is my favorite and I use it in my main. I also own various other coolers.
    Keyboard
    all kinds.
    Mouse
    all kinds
    Internet Speed
    360 mbps - 1 gbps (depending)
    Browser
    FIREFOX
    Antivirus
    KASPERSKY (no apologies)
    Other Info
    Gave Dell touch screen with Windows 11 to daughter and got me an OTVOC. Being a PC builder I own many desktop PCs as well. I am a father of five providing PCs, laptops, and tablets for all my family, most of which I have modified, rebuilt, or simply built from scratch. I do not own a cell phone, never have, never will.
Scannerman said:
Well, as I stated, it is only part of the reason. There are other factors for me to take into consideration. That said when brand new system boards start catching fire after release that's when I have to ask myself if it is worth the risk. If quality control missed this what else did they miss? For an old guy like me 3666 MHz RAM is plenty fast. If I can clock my CPU over 4GHz I'm happy with that too. One thing about older architecture is that it has been tried and tested. If it can pass the test of time then it is likely worth keeping.

The main reason for the big push on the newer "Windows 11 Ready" architecture wasn't TPM2 so much as getting PCs AI ready. Not everyone wants their PC to be completely AI compliant. Admittedly, I am from another time. My focus is on older architecture. I draw the line on 20 years. I've rebuilt 12 year old PCs and given them to children (and seniors) in my community and they're still happy with them. Yes, speed is nice to have but it isn't everything.
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I like speed for gaming and compiling code, so that is my main motivation for having a pretty fast CPU. I see your point though, but I haven't heard of any boards catching fire. I am kind of soured on AMD because of the Bulldozer fiasco (falsely advertised cores), and my 5800X pretty much underperformed compared to my similar Intel rig at work. I bought it to future proof my system, replacing an old 2700X. AMDs marketing wing seems to work overtime doing all of these testimonials about the CPUs and GPUs they sell, both of which cannot keep up with my new Intel/Nvidia rig. It's all marketing hype really, from both sides, but I can't argue with the performance boost I am currently seeing. I have been keeping an eye on benchmarks, as well as benchmarking my systems, and I have to say, the comparison is pretty much similar from what I have seen so far.

Now, AMD has a couple of new chips out, and they compare to the i9, which I don't have, so I can't speak to them, but overall, I am pretty satisfied with my build.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Win 11 Pro 24H2
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Self build
    CPU
    Intel i7 13700KF
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte Z790 UD AC
    Memory
    32 GB Team Group DDR5 - 6000 CL 30
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS TUF GAMING RTX 3070 Ti
    Sound Card
    On board Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ACER 34 inch
    Screen Resolution
    4K
    Hard Drives
    1 TB Samsung 980 Pro Nvme, 1 TB Samsung 970 EVO Nvme, 2 x Samsung 970 2TB SSD SATA
    PSU
    EVGA 1000Q
    Case
    Rosewill something or other
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15. A whole schwak of Noctua case fans. $$$
    Keyboard
    Logitech G815
    Mouse
    Logitech G502 Hero
    Internet Speed
    700 up, 600 down
    Browser
    Firefox
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes
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