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Fortitude · Dec 26, 2021

SumatraPDF reader and PDFill editor is a nice combination. The first is free and the second one is not too expensive.

ozoffi · Dec 26, 2021

Unfortunately, only the Reader is free at ADOBE, everything else is only available via Adobe Creative Cloud and not for free ... But I don't want the Cloud and all available products. I just want a way to edit, merge, separate PDF files ...
I searched for a long time and finally found PDF24:

Solutions for all PDF problems - 100% free - PDF24

Free solutions for all PDF problems. Online and offline. Merge PDF, Compress PDF, Edit PDF, Convert PDF, ...

www.pdf24.org

TheMystic · Dec 26, 2021

I stopped using Adobe long time back. It was a huge program for what it does, plus all the bloatware. There are far better programs that do pretty much what you need at a minute fraction of size.

Again, I'm talking in relative terms and not absolute terms. What that means is you may have 64 GB ram, but that doesn't mean Adobe can use 5 GB, when other comparable programs use under 100 MB. Numbers used are only to drive home the point.

Sumatra is the simplest pdf reader I have seen, and good enough for just reading pdf.

For some more features like editing, annotations, etc. Xodo and Foxit are great too. I see there are some other interesting recommendations, and that pushes Adobe further away on my list of prefered programs.

barman58 · Dec 26, 2021

I also use SumatraPDF as my reader for PDF.

For creation and modification of my own PDF files I use the free PDFCreator Pseudo Printer Driver and whatever application is appropriate to create the document content, often it's MS Word or Publisher, although a lot of my Graphics processors will directly create PDF output ( as Adobe made PDF an open format quite a while ago. and now Word and other applications can open the format then edit and save.

One other thing about the free PDFCreator is it can output in a good number of common image formats when this is more appropriate for the usage

cereberus · Dec 26, 2021

There are dozens of free readers but very few good annotation tools, and even less good pdf file manipulators e.g. remove page, merge pages, rotate pages etc. The best free file manipulation tool (imo) is PDFSAM.

Of course, the best PDF paid tool that far exceeds anything even paid adobe is Bluebeam software but far too expensive for average domestic use.

Edwin · Dec 26, 2021

It depends what the OP means by Editor.

There are plenty of free tools for signing or annotating etc., but, for proper pdf creation or manipulation you've got to buy it.

I use Sumatra for reading.

I also design Interactive Church Bulletins, and a few other things..., I do so in PowerPoint and export it as PDF.

AndreTen · Dec 26, 2021

cereberus said:
There are dozens of free readers but very few good annotation tools, and even less good pdf file manipulators e.g. remove page, merge pages, rotate pages etc. The best free file manipulation tool (imo) is PDFSAM.

Of course, the best PDF paid tool that far exceeds anything even paid adobe is Bluebeam software but far too expensive for average domestic use.

IMO, PDFSAM was the best, before they took the visual part of of the free version and make it pro (paid).

Check out pdfarranger. It's Open source, visual, can be portable... Working great for splitting, merging, changing page order etc.

For real editor there are very limited free options

MisterEd · Dec 26, 2021

BunnyJ said:
One more thing is you get McAfee installed.

Only if you forget to uncheck the boxes.

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Edwin · Dec 26, 2021

Acrobat Pro is still the best but pricey...

FDretired · Dec 26, 2021

ozoffi said:
Unfortunately, only the Reader is free at ADOBE, everything else is only available via Adobe Creative Cloud and not for free ... But I don't want the Cloud and all available products. I just want a way to edit, merge, separate PDF files ...
I searched for a long time and finally found PDF24:

Solutions for all PDF problems - 100% free - PDF24

Free solutions for all PDF problems. Online and offline. Merge PDF, Compress PDF, Edit PDF, Convert PDF, ...

www.pdf24.org

My needs are modest. I recently had to extract 8 pages from tax return (T1 general) and used "PDF merger and Splitter" from the store.

I tried PDF24 and it did the job with minimal effort.

I hope to use this program in the future for special tasks.

Foxit is my default reader.

davewin11 · Dec 26, 2021

Edwin said:
Acrobat Pro is still the best but pricey...

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I agree. My version is the last that is not rented

Dru2 · Dec 26, 2021

Actually Acrobat 2017 which I have, and which replaced Acrobat X1 (which I had), is also perpetual (as well as Acrobat 2020)

davewin11 · Dec 26, 2021

Dru2 said:
Actually Acrobat 2017 which I have, and which replaced Acrobat X1 (which I had), is also perpetual (as well as Acrobat 2020)

Thanks, I assumed that all Adobe applications had gone thr same way.

Dru2 · Dec 26, 2021

davewin11 said:
Thanks, I assumed that all Adobe applications had gone thr same way.

No problem. Anyway, it appears that only Acrobat "DC" is subscription based - Adobe Acrobat DC PDF software | Adobe Acrobat

Wynona · Dec 26, 2021

geneo said:
Me too. But my experience is it asks you if you want to install mcafee

That has been my experience - opt out working OK. After the first install, with updates there is no issue. Don't consider this a recommendation though

But I usually use the FF or Edge browser viewers for viewing.

I have Unchecky installed. Unchecky - Keeps your checkboxes clear

It will uncheck the extra boxes.

Edwin · Dec 26, 2021

Dru2 said:
as well as Acrobat 2020

Would you happen to know if it's any good? Would cost me over 500 bucks here!

Dru2 · Dec 28, 2021

Edwin said:
Would you happen to know if it's any good? Would cost me over 500 bucks here!

I'm currently still using the 2017 version and I like it. And "any good" would depend on you and what you're looking to do.

As for pricing, as a student, I can get the student/teacher edition 2020 Pro version for $119

Edwin · Dec 28, 2021

Dru2 said:
I can get the student/teacher edition 2020 Pro version for $119

I'd scoop two for that price!!!

Hey, if I PM you my credit card info, could you scoop me up a couple!?!?!?

GCG1000 · Dec 28, 2021

Well, for just PDF reading, I find the in-board PDF reader provided by most major browsers is more than adequate. The PDF function in the Edge Browser even has some manipulative (though limited) capabilities for PDF pages.

Dru2 · Dec 28, 2021

Edwin said:
I'd scoop two for that price!!!

Hey, if I PM you my credit card info, could you scoop me up a couple!?!?!?

It's not that simple. I could buy you 10 copies, but "you" will need to provide the credentials to register the software to get a product key to activate the software. Those keys are sent to "your" .edu email address

Anyway, anyone can buy the $119 verson, it's meeting the qualification to activate. Some online stores like Amazon will make you prove qualification before purchase. Places like Best Buy have the products on the shelves, so... Also, most places will warn there is no refund if you buy the product, open, and don't qualify. This is also listed on the package.

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