Solved PDF reader

barman58 · Dec 28, 2021

If you do have a need to produce original documents in PDF format there is one option that I did not mention that is considerably cheaper, ( and is not a "rented" option), is Affinity Publisher which is a fraction of the cost of Adobe or Microsoft options and is usually discounted heavily

Page Layout & Design Software | Affinity Publisher

Affinity Publisher has everything you need to design spectacular layouts ready for publication. Get a free trial of the top page layout software today.

affinity.serif.com

It's currently shown for sale for under GB £50 but I have seen it for less than half that

I've included a sample trial PDF attachment to show some basic processes used, but has full indexing, and other pro functions

Edwin · Dec 28, 2021

Thanks @barman58
I'm gonna try the trial!

Dru2 · Dec 28, 2021

Edwin said:
Thanks @barman58
I'm gonna try the trial!

If you're not looking to sign, edit, or create PDF documents, Adobe DC Reader is free.

As I said, like everything else it depends on what your core use is. I use Acrobat because I sometimes need to edit a PDF file or create PDF versions of a document. You can also password protect PDF files. That's me.

That said, even I think the monthly ask price (14.99) for Acrobat DC subscription is a bit much; but again, needs.

Edwin · Dec 28, 2021

Dru2 said:
If you're not looking to sign, edit, or create PDF documents, Adobe DC Reader is free.

As I said, like everything else it depends on what your core use is. I use Acrobat because I sometimes need to edit a PDF file or create PDF versions of a document. You can also password protect PDF files. That's me.

That said, even I think the monthly ask price (14.99) for Acrobat DC subscription is a bit much; but again, needs.

Not sure yet what I need.
Currently, I'm designing everything in PP then exporting it to PDF.
So far, so good.
If I get any busier, I might need something more powerful!

Dru2 · Dec 28, 2021

For the record, I'm not here to convince anyone to use Adobe's PDF products. I'm simply here to provide info where I can.

My attitude is use the tools that make "your life" easier, not mine

Edwin · Dec 28, 2021

Dru2 said:
My attitude is use the tools that make "your life" easier, not mine

I'm with ya on that one chief!
I'm pretty green when it comes to Adobe Pro products!
Hell, I haven't even got my sh*t together for some Office products!!! :dizzy:

Edwin · Dec 30, 2021

Edwin said:
Not sure yet what I need.
Currently, I'm designing everything in PP then exporting it to PDF.
So far, so good.
If I get any busier, I might need something more powerful!

I've run into somewhat of a hurdle...,
In PowerPoint, I've applied 'Screen Tips' to certain portions of text..., they show on mouse hover in PP and Presentation mode but, when I export the PP to PDF, the Screen Tips don't show on mouse hover!
A bit more specific-
I'm creating a Church Directory, using the aforementioned methods, in PP whereas, when you hover over a members name, the Screen Tip shows their Birthday..., but this doesn't save to the PDF.
Ultimately, I'd also like it if someone opens the PDF on a mobile device, the Screen Tip would show on long press!

I might be biting off more than I can chew, however...,
any thoughts are appreciated.

barman58 · Dec 30, 2021

Is there still a Live mode for the PP you have, where you can create a presentation that will work stand alone without having the full application installed.

I seem to recall it being an option in a Presentation package at one time but can't recall what the package was

I found this ...

How To Create Standalone PowerPoint Presentations

By making it standalone, you can share the presentation files on the go, without any hassle. The receivers do not necessarily need Microsoft Office or PowerPoint installed on their PC.

www.techsling.com

Edwin · Dec 30, 2021

barman58 said:
Is there still a Live mode for the PP you have, where you can create a presentation that will work stand alone without having the full application installed.

I seem to recall it being an option in a Presentation package at one time but can't recall what the package was

I found this ...

How To Create Standalone PowerPoint Presentations

By making it standalone, you can share the presentation files on the go, without any hassle. The receivers do not necessarily need Microsoft Office or PowerPoint installed on their PC.

www.techsling.com

I don't think I'm wanting to go that route..., thanks though!

Edwin · Dec 30, 2021

I may have found a solution..., here's an example:

As in the screenshot, I originally wanted a user to be able to hover over a name to reveal the birthday/anniversary info in the ScreenTip..., however, the Screen Tip doesn't transfer to the exported PDF.
Furthermore, I doubt a touch device would reveal that Screen Tip on long press, or some other way, anyway! All the other colored links open in the associated app when pressed and show the url or tel: link on hover...
I need users to know that the names are links of some sort...,
So..., long story short, in the rear pages of the directory, I've created birthday calendars so that, when names are clicked, the in-document hyperlink brings them to the appropriate calendar page, without hover info.
Kind of a goofy way of doing it but, I think I can make it work nicely.
I'm still open to suggestions!

Haydon · Dec 30, 2021

A bit OT, but did you clear with the rest of the congregation about privacy issues? It is always an issue with personal directories, but with churches it is worse. Some may be older people, and lack of privacy can lead to lack of security. You never know who will be reading the directory. May be ask for advice from the local police :eek:

Edwin · Dec 30, 2021

Haydon said:
A bit OT, but did you clear with the rest of the congregation about privacy issues? It is always an issue with personal directories, but with churches it is worse. Some may be older people, and lack of privacy can lead to lack of security. You never know who will be reading the directory. May be ask for advice from the local police

It's not going to be a posted Directory.
And yes, my committee liaison is hammering out the legal issues with the Com of Admin and Church Council.

Haydon · Dec 30, 2021

OK, directories are always tricky, but with a committee looking into it, chances are that it will be done right, with a well-published option to opt out, etc.

Edwin · Dec 30, 2021

Haydon said:
OK, directories are always tricky, but with a committee looking into it, chances are that it will be done right, with a well-published option to opt out, etc.

We talked briefly about password encrypting the document and making it available to members only from a secure source, etc.
I asked him to look into it and get back to me.
The thing that concerns me is, if people are careless about their app permissions on their phone or device, how much data can certain apps read/harvest!

If it seems too sketchy, our Editor's just gonna print up a good ole fashioned paper booklet! :)
And, what I'm workin on will be the editable template.

Haydon · Dec 31, 2021

Edwin said:
If it seems too sketchy, our Editor's just gonna print up a good ole fashioned paper booklet! :)

That's what I went back to (paper) especially after someone used one of my electronic files, changed my name to his, and took the credit for my work! I still consider myself lucky, because I did not hear about him leaving my name and maliciously introducing errors in the content! Note, that the net amplifies certain things a million times!

Anyway, I don't want to get involved, especially since it appears that the issue is in good hands

Good luck!

cereberus · Dec 31, 2021

Edwin said:
Acrobat Pro is still the best but pricey...

View attachment 16972

Bluebeam is a far superior editing tool. Sort of halfway to CAD level of editing capability. Adobe is so clunky by comparison.

imanlien2020 · Dec 31, 2021

nightowl17 said:
I would like to recieve recommendation for a free PDF reader and editior

I use XODO Reader from Microsoft store. Works perfect for PDF. I use Sumatra reader for EPUB. or I also use Alfa Ebook Reader Pro which not only reads both but is a sort/organize/ read and visually all my books are placed on screen with different backgrounds and books are on shelves look etc. that ones my favorite but its a paid app. XODO and Sumatra are both 100 percent free. Ive tried tons out there. (MY OPINION) But Adobe ..lol..DO NOT install it. Many reasons why. Very invasive and almost impossible to remove from your computer should you want to. Didnt say impossible just hard too.

imanlien2020 · Dec 31, 2021

nightowl17 said:
I would like to recieve recommendation for a free PDF reader and editior

Now as far as Editor..Nitro is good, Adobe if you really want it, and Foxit Pdf reader slash Editor is great as well.

Edwin · Oct 29, 2023

Sumatra PDF beta now supports Tab drag-n-drop to new window, plus a whole bunch of other cool enhancements!

Wynona · Oct 29, 2023

BunnyJ said:
I got it from Adobe...

Good morning.

There is a pretty big space between the Download link for Acrobat Reader; "Included with your download" that has a link to "Install McAfee Security Scan Plus" that's already checked. If you're not paying attention, you get the Reader and Mcafee!

If you click on the first Download link, you're going to get McAfee; however, if you scroll down a bit to see the whole thing, you can uncheck McAfee, then click the Download Acrobat link.

Also, there's a small app called Unchecky that is programmed to uncheck PUPs. I have it installed on all of my computers and it works pretty much as advertised and is free.

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