Poll: Windows 11 - Love it or Hate It?


Love it or Hate It?


  • Total voters
    331
I'm going to say something controversial. Don't hate me for it. I prefer W10 to W7.:zip:
Not controversial in my world, I just look at it as an your opinion, which is fine, this goes back to my post about MS letting their customers choose.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 LTSB & 11 Pro 23H2 & Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate.
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware PC
    CPU
    Intel i7 4790K
    Motherboard
    ASROCK Z97 EXTREME4
    Memory
    32GB DDR3 1600 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD 7770 2GB GDDR5
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SAMSUNG UE57 Series 28-Inch 4K UHD
    Hard Drives
    SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2
    PSU
    EVGA 850 watt
    Case
    Alienware Area 51 Black Tower Case
    Keyboard
    HyperX - Alloy Elite 2 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard.
    Mouse
    Microsoft Wireless
    Internet Speed
    1.2 GHz
    Browser
    Chrome..Edge..Firefox
100%.

W7 is outdated and so technically inferior, no power menu, no decent vm system, poor driver support, poor security, not particularly UEFI friendly, cannot mount isos, blah blah blah. But hey, you could have a pretty taskbar LOL.

I reckon most of those who have rose coloured specs for W7 have not used ot on years or do not actually use it for technically productive work.

W8 was a major rewrite technically and in many ways far superior, but MS lost the plot when it came to not having a start menu. Once you installed something like Start8 it was actually a good OS in terms of it technical advancements.

W10 was really only W8 with a new gui initially, and now we have W11 which iinitially was W10 with a new gui.

W7 was an evolutionary cul-de-sac like Neanderthals.

A couple of years ago or so (pre Covid), I worked in a company on a job that was still using W7. That was so painful, it was like pulling teeth.


so in summary - W7 - Good riddance.
W7 NT 6.1, W8 was NT 6.2, W8.1 NT 6.3. W10 NT 10.0, and W11 NT 10.0,
The big change was W8.1 to W10 and W11 is just a reskinned W10.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 version 22H2 and W11 Dev.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    i7 7500U
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce 940MX
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Internal 256GB Samsung SSD plus UB3/2 attached 500GB Samsung SSD, 256GB WD SSD, 3TB WD HDD, 2TB WD HDD. 1.5TB Samsung HDD, and 7GB Network storage
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    200Mb/sec
    Browser
    Chrome, FF, Opera, Edgium.
    Antivirus
    MS Defender, Malwarebytes
Me too, although I don't dislike the settings app. It just should be one place for settings.
See this little item on every Settings page? It's saved me lots of hair pulling (down to about 3 strands now). 😉

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My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Multi-boot Windows 11 & 10 - RTM, RP, Beta, Dev and Canary
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware R12
    CPU
    11th Gen i9-11900KF @ 3.50GHz, 8 cores/16 logical proc.
    Motherboard
    Alienware 07HV66 (U3E1)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 w/10GB GDDR5X mem
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" Curved C27F591
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe PM961 NVMe SSD SAMSUNG (Boot),
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164 (SATA),
    1TB Samsung SSD 850 EVO,
    1TB Seagate ST1000DM003-1ER162,
    1TB WD Elements 10A8 USB Device,
    1TB BUFFALO HD-PNTU3 USB Device,
    1TB x4 Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device
    PSU
    850W PSU Liquid Cooled Chassis - CyberPower 1500 UPS
    Case
    Alienware Mid-Tower (Dell)
    Cooling
    Liquid Cooled - 3 fan - Top exhaust
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master Wireless
    Internet Speed
    1 Gigabit
    Browser
    FF, Chrome, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender, MBAM, SuperAntiSpyware
    Other Info
    Blueray R/W Optical,
    Canon MX410 series Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier,
    Altec 5.1 Speakers L-R, Mid Base Boom,

    Macrium Home Premium, Revo Pro, Screenspresso Pro

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 version 22H2 and W11 Dev.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    i7 7500U
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce 940MX
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Internal 256GB Samsung SSD plus UB3/2 attached 500GB Samsung SSD, 256GB WD SSD, 3TB WD HDD, 2TB WD HDD. 1.5TB Samsung HDD, and 7GB Network storage
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    200Mb/sec
    Browser
    Chrome, FF, Opera, Edgium.
    Antivirus
    MS Defender, Malwarebytes
I use it if I don't know where I'm going.
Exactly. Same here. IMO the Settings are not always clear what section what is in. So a quick search. Fortunately, the search field is AI friendly and will suggest as you type.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Multi-boot Windows 11 & 10 - RTM, RP, Beta, Dev and Canary
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware R12
    CPU
    11th Gen i9-11900KF @ 3.50GHz, 8 cores/16 logical proc.
    Motherboard
    Alienware 07HV66 (U3E1)
    Memory
    32GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 w/10GB GDDR5X mem
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" Curved C27F591
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
    Hard Drives
    1TB NVMe PM961 NVMe SSD SAMSUNG (Boot),
    2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164 (SATA),
    1TB Samsung SSD 850 EVO,
    1TB Seagate ST1000DM003-1ER162,
    1TB WD Elements 10A8 USB Device,
    1TB BUFFALO HD-PNTU3 USB Device,
    1TB x4 Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device
    PSU
    850W PSU Liquid Cooled Chassis - CyberPower 1500 UPS
    Case
    Alienware Mid-Tower (Dell)
    Cooling
    Liquid Cooled - 3 fan - Top exhaust
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800 Wireless
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master Wireless
    Internet Speed
    1 Gigabit
    Browser
    FF, Chrome, Opera, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender, MBAM, SuperAntiSpyware
    Other Info
    Blueray R/W Optical,
    Canon MX410 series Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier,
    Altec 5.1 Speakers L-R, Mid Base Boom,

    Macrium Home Premium, Revo Pro, Screenspresso Pro
See this little item on every Settings page? It's saved me lots of hair pulling (down to about 3 strands now). 😉


Yep. Only difference is that I just use the Taskbar search box.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
I'm going to say something controversial. Don't hate me for it. I prefer W10 to W7.:zip:
I moved from W7 to W8 within the first week after the official release. W8 had better security, was a bit more responsive, the missing Start Menu wasn't a problem because of Classic Shell, and pleasantries like booting to the Start Screen and the Charms were possible to be disabled. Last but not least, the official (and documented by Microsoft) registry setting to keep it from nagging about upgrading to W10 worked 100% flawlessly─very unlike all the various hacks for W7 that were supposed to do the same. Then finally, telemetry became no longer possible to fully be disabled on W7, and serious bugs started to appear as a result of Windows updates on W7, and W8.1. But, compared to W8.1, overall these bugs were significantly worse on W7. You had to really love Botch Tuesdays during those times. I am talking about the kind of bugs that weren't possible to be fixed right away and that broke important functionality, stuff that got you stuck with a half baked workaround for a prolonged period of time, in some cases AFAIK actually no workaround would even exist in any way at all. You know, Ballmer sickness... lol Eventually those problems went away, for the most part.

When W10 came out, I waited until New Year 2018 before moving to it─by getting myself another new laptop. (Essentially, usually, these days moving to the next Windows is the equivalent of paying another visit to the local grocery store... lol) I witnessed W10 early troubles first hand (on my dad's desktop PC). I did manage to get them all easily fixed simply by googling for explanations like I always do. But, compared to fixing W10 early troubles, staying on W8.1 (until after W10 Fall Creators Update wrinkles had been ironed out at least) was an overall much smoother─or overall less bumpy─"experience" type thing, or kind of affair. IMO and IME anyway.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
I moved from W7 to W8 within the first week after the official release. W8 had better security, was a bit more responsive, the missing Start Menu wasn't a problem because of Classic Shell, and pleasantries like booting to the Start Screen and the Charms were possible to be disabled. Last but not least, the official (and documented by Microsoft) registry setting to keep it from nagging about upgrading to W10 worked 100% flawlessly─very unlike all the various hacks for W7 that were supposed to do the same. Then finally, telemetry became no longer possible to fully be disabled on W7, and serious bugs started to appear as a result of Windows updates on W7, and W8.1. But, compared to W8.1, overall these bugs were significantly worse on W7. You had to really love Botch Tuesdays during those times. I am talking about the kind of bugs that weren't possible to be fixed right away and that broke important functionality, stuff that got you stuck with a half baked workaround for a prolonged period of time, in some cases AFAIK actually no workaround would even exist in any way at all. You know, Ballmer sickness... lol Eventually those problems went away, for the most part.

When W10 came out, I waited until New Year 2018 before moving to it─by getting myself another new laptop. (Essentially, usually, these days moving to the next Windows is the equivalent of paying another visit to the local grocery store... lol) I witnessed W10 early troubles first hand (on my dad's desktop PC). I did manage to get them all easily fixed simply by googling for explanations like I always do. But, compared to fixing W10 early troubles, staying on W8.1 (until after W10 Fall Creators Update wrinkles had been ironed out at least) was an overall much smoother─or overall less bumpy─"experience" type thing, or kind of affair. IMO and IME anyway.
I did similar to you. I didn't fully commit tom W10 until 2016 but I had been running Insider builds in a VM from the first Technical Preview so was abreast of its early problems. I skipped W8/8.1 completely except for VMs.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 version 22H2 and W11 Dev.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    i7 7500U
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce 940MX
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Internal 256GB Samsung SSD plus UB3/2 attached 500GB Samsung SSD, 256GB WD SSD, 3TB WD HDD, 2TB WD HDD. 1.5TB Samsung HDD, and 7GB Network storage
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    200Mb/sec
    Browser
    Chrome, FF, Opera, Edgium.
    Antivirus
    MS Defender, Malwarebytes
these days moving to the next Windows is the equivalent of paying another visit to the local grocery store... lol
In my case it's a visit to my local pawn shop to see what they have on offer....
I skipped W8/8.1 completely except for VMs.
I avoided W8/8.1 like the plague. When my only PC died, a trusty old XP laptop, new PCs were all W8 ones, So I got an emergency replacement used W7 laptop from Cash Converters. That then took the free upgrade to W10 in August 2015.

It was long after getting used to W10 that I revisited W8.1 as a VM. Still don't like it, but with W10 experience at least it now made some sense.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
    CPU
    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    Radeon Graphics
    Monitor(s) Displays
    laptop screen
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
    Hard Drives
    1TB Samsung EVO 870 SSD
    Internet Speed
    50 Mbps
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October 2021 it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. Windows Update offered the 22H2 Feature Update on 20th September 2022. It got the 23H2 Feature Update on 4th November 2023 through Windows Update, and 24H2 on 3rd October 2024 through Windows Update by setting the Target Release Version for 24H2.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Latitude E4310
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i5-520M
    Motherboard
    0T6M8G
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics card(s)
    (integrated graphics) Intel HD Graphics
    Screen Resolution
    1366x768
    Hard Drives
    500GB Crucial MX500 SSD
    Browser
    Firefox, Edge
    Antivirus
    Defender
    Other Info
    unsupported machine: Legacy bios, MBR, TPM 1.2, upgraded from W10 to W11 using W10/W11 hybrid install media workaround. In-place upgrade to 22H2 using ISO and a workaround. Feature Update to 23H2 by manually installing the Enablement Package. In-place upgrade to 24H2 using hybrid 23H2/24H2 install media. Also running Insider Beta, Dev, and Canary builds as a native boot .vhdx.

    My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro (and all my Hyper-V VMs).

    My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 8GB RAM, 256GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro RTM and Insider Dev, Beta, and RP 24H2 as native boot vhdx.

    My SYSTEM FIVE is a Dell Latitude 3190 2-in-1, Pentium Silver N5030, 8GB RAM, 512GB NVMe ssd, supported device running Windows 11 Pro, plus the Insider Beta, Dev, Canary, and Release Preview builds as a native boot .vhdx.
I skipped W8/8.1 completely except for VMs.
I avoided W8/8.1 like the plague.
I still haven't got a clue why everyone except me looks to have been allergic to W8/8.1 so deeply. lol You didn't have to use UWP apps if you didn't want to. Like I said Ivo Beltchev also saved the day, and, IME at least, W8/8.1 ran a bit more stable─and more reliable in terms of Windows updates especially─when compared to W7 (and late W7 especially, as W8 was released on 1 August 2012) and compared to early W10, especially also (all the way until just before the end of 2017 some time after the Fall Creators Update had been released which seemed to be OK finally).
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
I too, steered far clear of Windows 8/8.1
I had the same reaction to Windows ME and Vista for that matter. :-)
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
I too, steered far clear of Windows 8/8.1
I had the same reaction to Windows ME and Vista for that matter. :-)
Vista was just before its time. By and large the hardware wasn't up to it. The change in drivers didn't help either.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 version 22H2 and W11 Dev.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    i7 7500U
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce 940MX
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Internal 256GB Samsung SSD plus UB3/2 attached 500GB Samsung SSD, 256GB WD SSD, 3TB WD HDD, 2TB WD HDD. 1.5TB Samsung HDD, and 7GB Network storage
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    200Mb/sec
    Browser
    Chrome, FF, Opera, Edgium.
    Antivirus
    MS Defender, Malwarebytes
I too, steered far clear of Windows 8/8.1
I had the same reaction to Windows ME and Vista for that matter. :-)
Windows ME was utter crap, but Vista was still possible to be turned into a fairly decent OS by doing the right tweaks and applying a few settings even though I will be the first to admit I completely hated it too, so yeah, I skipped them both. But then, the amount of tinkering that was needed to get Vista to hold a candle against XP was actually rather huge so, I can easily understand that. But to have skipped W8/8.1, again... why? Was it the baseless anti W8 propaganda on the internet, or what was it?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Vista was just before its time. By and large the hardware wasn't up to it. The change in drivers didn't help either.

True. MS released Vista before the manufacturers released the hardware to run it.


Windows ME was utter crap, but Vista was still possible to be turned into a fairly decent OS by doing the right tweaks and applying a few settings even though I will be the first to admit I completely hated it too, so yeah, I skipped them both. But then, the amount of tinkering that was needed to get Vista to hold a candle against XP was actually rather huge so, I can easily understand that. But to have skipped W8/8.1, again... why? Was it the baseless anti W8 propaganda on the internet, or what was it?


Windows 8/8.1 was not designed for desktop computers. It was designed for Windows Phone, which failed.
Sure you could change it all back... but that was backwards.
It should have looked like Win 7 with the option to make it look like Win 8.

MS is making the same mistake with Win 11, IMO.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Windows ME was utter crap, but Vista was still possible to be turned into a fairly decent OS by doing the right tweaks and applying a few settings even though I will be the first to admit I completely hated it too, so yeah, I skipped them both. But then, the amount of tinkering that was needed to get Vista to hold a candle against XP was actually rather huge so, I can easily understand that. But to have skipped W8/8.1, again... why? Was it the baseless anti W8 propaganda on the internet, or what was it?
In my case it was just too much of a change from the pretty W7 to the, in my eyes, blocky and ugly W8. I wasn't going to pay good money to upgrade to that.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 version 22H2 and W11 Dev.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    i7 7500U
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce 940MX
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Internal 256GB Samsung SSD plus UB3/2 attached 500GB Samsung SSD, 256GB WD SSD, 3TB WD HDD, 2TB WD HDD. 1.5TB Samsung HDD, and 7GB Network storage
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    200Mb/sec
    Browser
    Chrome, FF, Opera, Edgium.
    Antivirus
    MS Defender, Malwarebytes
Every other MS operating system... sux...

Win 95 = bad
Win 95 OSR = great
Win ME = bad
Win XP = great
Win Vista = bad
Win 7 = great
Win 8/8.1 = bad
Win 10 = great
Win 11 = bad
Win 12 = ???


I honestly believe that MS is trying to push us to a subscription OS, designed for tablets and phones.
I don't believe they will succeed, but i think we are all gonna have to suffer through them trying.

It's sort of like Office 365. Seemed like a good idea at the time, but most Office folks, are deciding against it, it seems.
People and corporations like to buy and own things. Renting them gets to be chains they'd rather do without.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?
Every other MS operating system... sux...

Win 95 = bad
Win 95 OSR = great
Win ME = bad
Win XP = great
Win Vista = bad
Win 7 = great
Win 8/8.1 = bad
Win 10 = great
Win 11 = bad
Win 12 = ???
I wouldn't really classify W11 as bad, just not as good as W10.
 

My Computer

System One

  • OS
    Windows 10 version 22H2 and W11 Dev.
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP
    CPU
    i7 7500U
    Motherboard
    HP
    Memory
    8GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA Geforce 940MX
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080
    Hard Drives
    Internal 256GB Samsung SSD plus UB3/2 attached 500GB Samsung SSD, 256GB WD SSD, 3TB WD HDD, 2TB WD HDD. 1.5TB Samsung HDD, and 7GB Network storage
    Mouse
    Logitech M705
    Internet Speed
    200Mb/sec
    Browser
    Chrome, FF, Opera, Edgium.
    Antivirus
    MS Defender, Malwarebytes
Windows 8/8.1 was not designed for desktop computers. It was designed for Windows Phone, which failed.
Sure you could change it all back... but that was backwards.
It should have looked like Win 7 with the option to make it look like Win 8.
My point was that W8/8.1 had multiple improvements over BOTH W7 AND early W10. Enough to justify the small effort it took to go through "unmetrofication" (IME anyway).
In my case it was just too much of a change from the pretty W7 to the, in my eyes, blocky and ugly W8. I wasn't going to pay good money to upgrade to that.
I like eye candy too, just not enough to justify making all those other sacrifices. So, for me, it just boils down to function over fashion. That's it. It's a thing. :D
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Asus TUF Gaming F16 (2024)
    CPU
    i7 13650HX
    Memory
    16GB DDR5
    Graphics Card(s)
    GeForce RTX 4060 Mobile
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    512GB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Cooling
    2× Arc Flow Fans, 4× exhaust vents, 5× heatpipes
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
  • Operating System
    11 Home
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Medion S15450
    CPU
    i5 1135G7
    Memory
    16GB DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    Intel Iris Xe
    Sound Card
    Eastern Electric MiniMax DAC Supreme; Emotiva UMC-200; Astell & Kern AK240
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Sony Bravia XR-55X90J
    Screen Resolution
    3840×2160
    Hard Drives
    2TB SSD internal
    37TB external
    PSU
    Li-ion
    Mouse
    Logitech G402
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    20Mbit/s up, 250Mbit/s down
    Browser
    FF
Win 95 = bad
Win 95 OSR = great
Win ME = bad
Win XP = great
Win Vista = bad
Win 7 = great
Win 8/8.1 = bad
Win 10 = great
Win 11 = bad
Win 12 = ???
XP was an absolute unstable dog until SP2, which is odd as it was built on 2k, which was rock solid. Also, Vista was a great OS; the only people that had problems were the ones running it on too low-spec hardware.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Windows 11 Workstation
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X
    Motherboard
    Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
    Memory
    Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
    Graphics Card(s)
    ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
    Sound Card
    Sound BlasterX Katana
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
    Drive
    PSU
    ASUS ROG THOR 850W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    ASUS ROG Strix Helios Midi-Tower ARGB Gaming Case
    Cooling
    ASUS ROG Strix LC Performance RGB AIO CPU Liquid Cooler - 360mm
    Keyboard
    Logi Ergo
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Vertical
    Internet Speed
    900/100 Mbps
    Browser
    Chrome
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Pro
    Other Info
    HP M281 Printer
    Logitech Brio Stream webcam
    Yeti X mic
  • Operating System
    Windows 10
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Surface Laptop
    CPU
    i7
Young people, first out in the world... rent. As soon as they can, they BUY a house.
This is what MS doesn't seem to understand.
Sure it will be easier for them. They won't have the average person trying to tweak their OS. MS will have complete control.
Less tech support costs, etc.

Unfortunately for MS... people don't like that.
There was an article a couple days ago. People in a neighborhood in California, got fed up with Comcast... so they just built their own cable company... just for their neighborhood.

Same thing with video games... they tried DLC, people thought hey that's neat... for a while.
Now... they wish they hadn't made that choice. Soon, it'll be back to buying complete games with no DLC or pay to play.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • OS
    Win 11 Home ♦♦♦26100.3194 ♦♦♦♦♦♦♦24H2 ♦♦♦non-Insider
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® [May 2020]
    CPU
    AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
    Motherboard
    Asus Pro WS X570-ACE (BIOS 4702)
    Memory
    G.Skill (F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW)
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 2070 (08G-P4-2171-KR)
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220P / ALC S1220A
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell U3011 30"
    Screen Resolution
    2560 x 1600
    Hard Drives
    2x Samsung 860 EVO 500GB,
    WD 4TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    WD 8TB Black FZBX - SATA III,
    DRW-24B1ST CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling 750W Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Cooler Master ATCS 840 Tower
    Cooling
    CM Hyper 212 EVO (push/pull)
    Keyboard
    Ducky DK9008 Shine II Blue LED
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-100
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox (latest)
    Antivirus
    Bitdefender Internet Security
    Other Info
    Speakers: Klipsch Pro Media 2.1
  • Operating System
    Windows XP Pro 32bit w/SP3
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Built by Ghot® (not in use)
    CPU
    AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ (OC'd @ 3.2Ghz)
    Motherboard
    ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition
    Memory
    TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX (2 x 1GB, DDR2 800)
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC
    Sound Card
    Onboard
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" Professional (CRT)
    Screen Resolution
    up to 2048 x 1536
    Hard Drives
    WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
    Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
    Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
    Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
    PSU
    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad EPS12V
    Case
    Generic Beige case, 80mm fans
    Cooling
    ZALMAN 9500A 92mm CPU Cooler
    Mouse
    Logitech Optical M-BT96a
    Keyboard
    Logitech Classic Keybooard 200
    Internet Speed
    300/300
    Browser
    Firefox 3.x ??
    Antivirus
    Symantec (Norton)
    Other Info
    Still assembled, still runs. Haven't turned it on for 13 years?

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