Some questions about windows 11

Gregory · Sep 23, 2023

starchase said:
Then, as mentioned above, first upgrade to Win10 then to Win 11.

No i want to make a clean install no need to upgrade from win7 to win10 and finally win11 cause standar something will messup things. Don't forget is Microsoft operating system.

Bree · Sep 23, 2023

Gregory said:
No i try to upgrafe from win7 not win10 so....

You cannot upgrade direct from Windows 7 to Windows 11. If you try you won't be able to keep your installed software and user files, notr will you get a digital licence. I tested that in post #46 here:

To activate Win 11, what types of older license are good?

If I remember correctly Windows 7 Enterprise and Windows 7 Ultimate have almost the same features, the former is for Enterprises and the latter for enthusiast users that want the maximum features. That could explain why 7 Ultimate installed 11 Enterprise, but it is weird nevertheless. There is...

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If you want to upgrade from Windows 7, keeping all you software, user files and settings, and getting a digital licence for your PC, then you have to first upgrade to Windows 10. You can then upgrade from 10 to 11.

Bree · Sep 23, 2023

Gregory said:
No i want to make a clean install no need to upgrade from win7 to win10 and finally win11 cause standar something will messup things. Don't forget is Microsoft operating system.

You will still need to activate your clean install of Windows 11. There is a way to gather the activation state of your Windows 7 and use it to activate a clean install of Windows 10 on the same PC. I understand from others that this will also work for a clean install of Windows 11.

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Berton · Sep 23, 2023

What Bree just said. It was OEM Win8 that started reading the BIOS to get the product key or coding that was needed for activation. Motherboards for custom computers may not have had that procedure in them.

Gregory · Sep 23, 2023

Bree said:
You will still need to activate your clean install of Windows 11. There is a way to gather the activation state of your Windows 7 and use it to activate a clean install of Windows 10 on the same PC. I understand from others that this will also work for a clean install of Windows 11.

Clean Install Windows 10 Directly without having to Upgrade First

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Don't bother about win7.
I simply want to make a clean install of windows 11 to an old pc without tpm or uefi. So i must remove tpm and secure boot fuction from the win11 bootable iso file.

Like this pc don't has anything at all(Operating system) inside all from start.

Berton · Sep 23, 2023

I haven't done it as I needed computer that had properly installed Win11 to be able to see what my clients see so got new one. Pages found by Search have information that should help with installing on older machines. I didn't search about CPU requirements as most times TPM and suggested CPU go together.

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Gregory · Sep 23, 2023

Is there an easy method/way to simply remove tpm and secure boot from any win11 bootable iso file?
The rufus 3.2 doesn't has these fuction at win7.

Berton · Sep 23, 2023

Gregory said:
Is there an easy methos/way to simply remove tpm and secure boot from any win11 bootable iso file?

Modifying software to bypass requirements is never easy or simple and runs risk failure at some point. Also be aware that, since we only buy a license to use the software, the possibility exists that it can change at any time to enforce requirements.

Gregory · Sep 23, 2023

So tell me what files i must delete or replace with an empty to any win11 bootable iso file so i get rid the tpm and secure boot fuctions.

And if there is a program except rufus can do these simply enough please inform me which is this program.

A lot of thanks for your time and your answers.

starchase · Sep 23, 2023

Gregory said:
Is there an easy method/way to simply remove tpm and secure boot from any win11 bootable iso file?
The rufus 3.2 doesn't has these fuction at win7.

Yes, my post # 12 above will do that, and you can then keep the folder for use whenever you need it. This bypasses all the checks. Here is the video from @FreeBooter, post # 2 How to upgrade from unsupported Windows 10 (i7-4790 CPU) that I followed except I didn't use Windows 10 to replace the appriaserres.dll, I merely created an empty text file (well, I did have about 5 characters in it, but it would probably work empty) and made sure I named it with the .dll extension and copied it into the desktop folder containing the files and folders from the Win11 iso. And then I ran the Setup from there.

spapakons · Sep 23, 2023

For a clean installation you can boot from the official unmodified ISO. At first Setup screen press SHIFT+F10 and it will open a Command Prompt. Type regedit and press ENTER to load Registry Editor. Modify the appropriate keys (see relevant thread) exit Registry Editor. Type exit and press ENTER to close the Command Prompt. You may proceed with the installation, compatibility check is disabled.

Gregory · Sep 23, 2023

I want a more simple and flow solution.
For example the replace of "appraiserres.dll" with an empty one it is very nice if it work.
What is the file to replace this with an empty one for secure boot?

spapakons · Sep 23, 2023

I am not sure if replacing the file [ICODE[sources\appraiserres.dll[/ICODE] in the USB at first Setup screen will work, haven't done it. However you can try it. I guess that is what Rufus is doing, it creates the USB flash drive with either the Registry already hacked or the appraiserres.dll file replaced. Not sure.

Gregory · Sep 23, 2023

For me i can't use rufus cause i have win7 and at win7 doesn't have any of these fuction to remove anything at all from win11 22h2 64bit iso file.
Look at the pictures.
First picture what is the specs with win7sp1 ultimate 64bit.
Second picture what it bring me as error when i try to clean install win11 22h2 64bit with a usb hdd i create with rufus 3.22 and the file "appraiserres.dll" replace with an empty one.

spapakons · Sep 23, 2023

For a Legacy BIOS installation (MBR partition style, NTFS partition) you can download Windows 10 Media Creation Tool and use it to create a Windows 10 64-bit USB flash drive. Then replace the file sources\install.esd (or install.wim whichever is there) with the respective file from Windows 11 ISO of the SAME language. This will create a hybrid Windows 10/11 USB flash drive which uses the Windows 10 Setup to install Windows 11. This means no compatibility check without any hacking. This is what I use, a hybrid Windows 10/11 USB flash drive, to install Windows 11 on any unsupported computer, unless for some reason I want an UEFI installation.

PS: You can still use Rufus in Windows 7. New versions 4.xx don't work, you need version 3.20 or earlier.

Gregory · Sep 23, 2023

Both of these two files you tell me is the biggest size file at the iso.
Are you sure you mean replace these files with the win10 files?

You mean to replace these two files with the win10 files of the exact same version?

For example:
I must replace the install.esd or instal.wim of win11 22h2 64bit iso
with
the same file at win10 22h2 64bit iso?

Even the same language?

I can't replace the win10 21h2 64bit greek(install.esd don't has the .wim) <-> win 11 22h2 64bit greek(install.wim don't has the .esd)

I know i can run rufus 3.22 but it doesn't has at all the fuction for remove tpm and secure boot.

Gregory · Sep 26, 2023

So what i must do to get rid/remove the tpm and secure boot from win11 iso file?

Ghot · Sep 26, 2023

Gregory said:
So what i must do to get rid/remove the tpm and secure boot from win11 iso file?

Download the ISO from Microsoft, then create the installation media with RUFUS
RUFUS has options to bypass the TPM and Secure Boot requirements... built in.

How to Use Rufus to Bypass TPM and Secure Boot Requirements in Windows 11

There are a few ways to bypass Windows 11's requirements, but Rufus is one of the best options available.

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There are other ways as well...

Bypass Windows 11 System Requirements on Unsupported PC

This tutorial will show you how to bypass the Windows 11 CPU, RAM, Secure Boot, and TPM 2.0 system requirements allowing you to clean install or upgrade to Windows 11 on a unsupported PC that doesn't meet these requirements. Installing Windows 11 on a device that does not meet Windows 11...

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Note: You can use your Windows 7 key to install up to Windows 10.
Then you can use RUFUS, as shown above, to upgrade from Windows 10 to Windows 11.

Gregory · Sep 27, 2023

You don't read my old posts.
I have win7 and with win7 rufus doesn't have these fuction so....

spapakons · Sep 27, 2023

Rufus 3.20 or earlier does work on Windows 7. Rufus 4.xx doesn't. Use 3.20 to either create a Windows 11 USB flash drive with all compatibility checks removed, or to create the hybrid Windows 10/11 USB flash drive as I suggested. For the hybrid you replace sources\install.esd or install.wim (only one of the two should be there) with the respective file install.esd or install.wim from the Windows 11 ISO. It also works if you replace the .esd version (new compression) with the .wim version (classic compression) or vice versa. It doesn't matter which version you have. Of course the.esd version is smaller than the.wim version. If you download the Windows 11 ISO directly you get the install.wim This can be used to extract the individual Home or Pro versions in order to combine them later. If you use Media Creation Tool you get install.esd You cannot extract the individual versions from it, you must first convert to classic compression install.wim

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