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pietcorus2 · Dec 5, 2023

Ataemonus said:
OK then, it's not your system, good luck.

Then WHATS (??) the difference between the 3.6.16 and the later versions ...........?
Why does it work all fine in 3.6.16 and not in the later versions ................??
Very good in 3.6.16 , after updating to later SAB-versions , my left-taskbar-items are moving to the right !

dacrone · Dec 5, 2023

people are trying to give you answers. try these all and post back. if you dont want to, then dont...

1) your weather widget is partially covered because that start button is jacked... even in your old screenshot. use a different orb (go to WinCustomize: Windows 10 themes, skins, icons and wallpapers and everything you need to customize your pc! and find the win 7 orb). that will fix that.

2) your spacing is something corrupted, as stated mutiple times before. get revo uninstaller protable, uninstall sab (backup your settings/license first). use revo after uninstalling to remove reg/appdata leftovers.

3) reboot and reinstall the newest version of sab.

4) post a screenshot once all steps are finalized.

Kees · Dec 5, 2023

@pietcorus2
Please rightclick the taskbar and disable: Taakbalk vergrendelen:

At least one double line should appear on the taskbar, if you have QuickLaunch in use there should be two double lines.
Where is that line standing? Can you make a screenshot of that?
I think you have QuickLaunch activated (like I have). The QuickLaunch right border can be shifted to a distance left to right v.v.
If I shift the right border of the QuickLaunch somewhat to the right, I get this:

And with "Taakbalk vergrendelen" activated it looks like this:

Which is about the thing you have.

The only point is that in my (test)system it does not make any difference if I have SAB 3.6.15 or SAB 3.7.

If QuickLaunch is activated, when you rightclick the taskbar and go up to 'Werkbalken', you will see this:

Maybe QuickLaunch has nothing to do with your problem, but it's a possibility...

pietcorus2 · Dec 5, 2023

Thanks Kees !
Will try soon , and let you know .......

btw; cant find "QuickLaunch " in the Werkbalken.....(?)

Edwin · Dec 5, 2023

pietcorus2 said:
" FUBAR start button " is the start-button from Open-Shell , using it in all versions of StartAllBack , its NOT the problem

Yes it is! At least it may be part of the problem!
It has huge black bars on either side of the button in both your screenshots!

If you're running SAB and OpenShell simultaneously, that's a problem!
If you're not, but simply using the orb from OpenShell, that's also a problem, it's a completely different size.

Besides, SAB has the exact same orb built in!

pietcorus2 · Dec 5, 2023

If you're running SAB and OpenShell simultaneously, that's a problem!
If you're not, but simply using the orb from OpenShell, that's also a problem, it's completely different size.

So , you mean ; cant use Open-Shell with latest SAB-versions .............
If so , will stay at the 3.6.16-version , works fine with Open-Shell also .

Edwin · Dec 5, 2023

pietcorus2 said:
So , you mean ; cant use Open-Shell with latest SAB-versions

I'm saying, you shouldn't..., both programs target similar thematic elements in a different manner..., they constantly fight each other!

pietcorus2 said:
If so , will stay at the 3.6.16-version , works fine with Open-Shell also

Okay, I'm done! Do as you wish.

Ataemonus · Dec 5, 2023

Edwin said:
Okay, I'm done! Do as you wish.

Took you a while, you are one patient man.

pietcorus2 · Dec 5, 2023

Well, maybe a later update will fix the distance-problem .
Still strange the early 3.6.16-version works fine , while the later versions pushing my left taskbar-items to the right ...........
Anyway thanks for your help/ideas........

dacrone · Dec 5, 2023

curious as to what purpose openshell serves as sab already provides a win 7 start menu alteration...? ^this is solved, just wondering now

Ataemonus · Dec 5, 2023

dacrone said:
curious as to what purpose openshell serves as sab already provides a win 7 start menu alteration...? ^this is solved, just wondering now

By the looks of it, serves the purpose of making the start button glitch, plus a few other glitches, so then one can complain here (endlessly, it seems) and blame it on SAB.

Edwin · Dec 5, 2023

Ataemonus said:
Took you a while, you are one patient man.

I don't mind trying to help, even if my posts help others!

Ataemonus · Dec 5, 2023

Edwin said:
I don't mind trying to help, even if my posts help others!

One first needs to WANT help, otherwise it's an exercise in futility, sadly.

Kees · Dec 5, 2023

pietcorus2 said:
cant find "QuickLaunch " in the Werkbalken.....(?)

If you caný find it, it's not there (the QuickLaunch has to be set up separately).
So that will not be the reason.
It would still interest me, what is viewable when you disable 'Taakbalk vergrendelen'.
What double lines appear where?

Edwin · Dec 5, 2023

pietcorus2 said:
Well, maybe a later update will fix the distance-problem .

No, it won't! Not with the way you have things set up!

pietcorus2 said:
Still strange the early 3.6.16-version works fine , while the later versions pushing my left taskbar-items to the right

I have a reasonable suspicion, in light of the improvements/fixes Tihiy has applied to these Builds...,
along with possible changes in OpenShell, (but I doubt it), and, your settings as well as the incompatible way you have things set up/installed...,
it's creating huge conflicts and anomalies!
For instance..., that huge space you have now, I'm almost willing to bet that it is the Modern Search bar, or Teams Chat placeholder, or something else, mysteriously hidden by some conflicting process.
Whatever it may be, is 99% fixable via the plethora of aforementioned suggestions!

You know what to do, you just need to do it!

pietcorus2 · Dec 6, 2023

Kees said:
If you caný find it, it's not there (the QuickLaunch has to be set up separately).
So that will not be the reason.
It would still interest me, what is viewable when you disable 'Taakbalk vergrendelen'.
What double lines appear where?

Search ( disabled) , Werkbalken ( adres, koppelingen, buroblad , nieuwe werkbalk ) , Widgets ( enabled )
btw; only using SAB for the taskbar ( startmenu is disabled ) , Open-Shell is startmenu.

OK , finally got it right !!
Followed advice of Master (!) Edwin and Ateamonus ; uninstalled SAB completely , disabled Open-Shell , rebooted , installed the ( stable) 3.7.0 , reboot , enabled Open-Shell again with an OTHER start-button , reboot and finally BINGO , all fine now ............

Many thanks

for all these fine forum-members who helped me solving the problems ............

Edwin · Dec 6, 2023

Wolfzz · Dec 6, 2023

StartAllBack 3.7.1

- winget to allow installing for --scope machine

- Microphone icon shows / allows controlling volume level and mute with middle mouse button

- Copilot is available on all displays

- Improved notify icons overflow tooltip positioning

- Some compatibility with TTClock

- Fixed Volume Mixer opening Control Center

- Fixed empty notify icons overflow visible

- Fixed multi-finger trackpad tap not opening Notification Center

IownAmoneyPit · Dec 6, 2023

Edwin said:
View attachment 80293

You gotta be kidding Me and I just made a Fresh backup of my system using Mondays 3.7.0 update, Oh well nothing to worry about.

Edwin · Dec 7, 2023

Wolfzz said:
- Microphone icon shows / allows controlling volume level and mute with middle mouse button

Cool!

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