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tistou77 · Sep 30, 2024

Kees said:
I think you'd better send the dev an email, because it seems to me being unlikely you can solve that by yourself.

I don't know if the guy sent an email, I'll ask him
I asked on the MSFN forum, but the dev doesn't seem interested in answering

But this is not a SAB bug, the guy has a problem with a dll

Kees said:
I can hardly imagine that the difference is coursed by some windows language file, but I have no inside information on the structure of the SAB program. And I can't imagine anybody except the dev will have that. It's propietary software.

And yet, just the Windows dll and dll.mui make the difference (the case for the translation of the updates popup, it was the dev who indicated these files for Windows 10 a few years ago)
This is how I found the dll and dll.mui for 24h2 compared to old Windows :)

But I agree, that it would be much better if all the translation was concentrated in the same file (like any software)

Kees said:
I would not be not so sure about that. May be the SAB program is handling some parts of its coding different, dependent of the Windows version!

Same version of Windows, just the dll(s) that is "corrupted, missing or otherwise"

Like for the popup's translation, I would look for which dll it is (not difficult, just that it takes a little time),
Too bad knowing that some people know the answer

Thanks anyway for the help

Kees · Sep 30, 2024

tistou77 said:
But this is not a SAB bug, the guy has a problem with a dll...

That .dll is developed by the StartAllback dev and is changed every new version of SAB!
It is located in the folder C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\StartAllBack

You can see the version of SAB by typing ALT Enter when your cursor is standing on it and then selecting Details.

dll files certainly are not only developed my MS, a lot of those program files are developed by the developers of applications.
BTW. a dll is a (part of) a program as well, but has to be used in combination with a main program.
As a matter of fact it is some kind of program module.

tistou77 · Sep 30, 2024

Kees said:
That .dll is developed by the StartAllback dev and is changed every new version of SAB!
It is located in the folder C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\StartAllBack

I know that, I was talking about a Windows dll, not SAB dll :wink:

ultimate99 · Sep 30, 2024

Edwin said:
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This:
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plus this: (you have to make the font larger)
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equals this:
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how are you able to get date and time side by side?

Edwin · Sep 30, 2024

ultimate99 said:
how are you able to get date and time side by side?

Show Day and Date and made the custom font 18 pt. (as per screenshots)

tistou77 · Oct 1, 2024

tistou77 said:
Does anyone know which dll.mui is used to "translate" this option ?
It's not present in the language file...

Thanks

It was indeed a problem with a Windows dll, I found it
Really too bad that the translations are scattered everywhere and not all grouped in the language file

asteski · Oct 2, 2024

Just a reminder about two issues I've found with 24H2, as it finally released to the public:

- Windows 11 tray flyouts do not appear on top by default when taskbar is put on top, or any other position on that matter, they still appear in the same place - bottm right, regardless of taskbar placement. I need to restart explorer manually to fix that.

- Windows 10 Battery flyout do not appear, it shows action center instead.

Kees · Oct 2, 2024

tistou77 said:
It was indeed a problem with a Windows dll, I found it

It would be intersting to know what file that was. That would help other people with the same problem.

Besides that: I am highly interested, in what view a Windows .dll file can have influence on a text, that is only used / generated in a certain app and probably belongs to that app. Tihiy might be interested as well. he is looking here quite regular!

King Mustard · Oct 2, 2024

Just installed 24H2.

It appears taskbar Toolbars are no longer available (StartAllBack 3.8.10).

I use this feature many times each day - I hope StartAllBack can bring them back

tistou77 · Oct 2, 2024

Kees said:
It would be intersting to know what file that was. That would help other people with the same problem.

Besides that: I am highly interested, in what view a Windows .dll file can have influence on a text, that is only used / generated in a certain app and probably belongs to that app. Tihiy might be interested as well. he is looking here quite regular!

These are the intl.cpl and intl.cpl.mui dlls (maybe just the .mui) and the modification is immediate
The dev knows it, he was the one who said for the dll and the translation of the popup updates a few years ago
It is wanted

I tested by "renaming" the dlls after, and the translation is still present, probably "cached"

Kees · Oct 2, 2024

Thanks for the information.
Because in my NL language intl.cpl.mui file I can't find any connection to the language terms used by StartAllBack, I will leave it like this and have no more comment about your problem. I just have no idea what's going on in your language and in connection to StartAllBack. Sorry about that.

tistou77 · Oct 2, 2024

No worries

For info, in my intl.cpl.mui (french) file it's here for translations (Resource Hacker)
String Table : 1
Dialog : 101

King Mustard · Oct 2, 2024

King Mustard said:
Just installed 24H2.

It appears taskbar Toolbars are no longer available (StartAllBack 3.8.10).

I use this feature many times each day - I hope StartAllBack can bring them back

Can I please check - are StartAllBack developers here? If not, is there a way I can submit this issue to them?

Edwin · Oct 2, 2024

King Mustard said:
It appears taskbar Toolbars are no longer available (StartAllBack 3.8.10).

They are, you just need to unlock the Taskbar first...

King Mustard · Oct 2, 2024

Edwin said:
They are, you just need to unlock the Taskbar first...

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Interesting. Thank you.

Is that new?

Edwin · Oct 2, 2024

King Mustard said:
Is that new?

Been like that for 2 or 3 Builds now.

Once you create or use your first Toolbar, the entry will then show by default whether the Taskbar is locked or not...

King Mustard · Oct 2, 2024

Edwin said:
Been like that for 2 or 3 Builds now.

Ah. Whilst I have installed each new build, I already had the Toolbars created, so I didn't notice

Wolfzz · Oct 2, 2024

StartAllBack 3.8.10.5175 03 October 2024 (beta)

Not Sure What's Been Updated

dacrone · Oct 2, 2024

Wolfzz said:
StartAllBack 3.8.10.5175

Not Sure What's Been Updated

i see no differences... maybe just some stability edits?

ByteBelle · Oct 4, 2024

Hello. I've been having the following issue since recent updates. On multiple monitors setups whenever I extend or duplicate screens, shellhost crashes. Only happens when StartAllBack is enabled. Here are the details.

This happens under Windows 11 Pro OS latest release preview build 26100.1882, Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.26100.23.0.

Hope there's a fix for it. Thank you!

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